Nepal Jam

[deepwaterdude]

Hi deepwaterdude,

Thanks for your updates and congrats on your Nepal Jam harvest.
I'm glad you have enjoyed growing this plant, did you find the strain consistent in both the standard and fem version ?

Wish you are enjoying your beautiful flowers in this summer time

Thanks, Dubi! conditions are much better now indoor, so plants are putting on a show without all the heat stress. I don't think I did those two justice first time around, so i have their clones outdoors, where it's rainy and coldish. I don't much care for the smoke of the little fem, but her clone looks and smells WAY better having flowered outdoors. I think the smoke will be a totally different beast. The pink pistoled from reg seed is my favorite smoke of the last run. I just forgot she's slow to flower. Here they are a few minutes ago.

Beautiful pants Thaibliss and Kygiacomo

 

[ThaiBliss]

Hi Dubi,

Those Nepal Jam x Orient Express look very beefy. Nice!

I have lots of Nepal Jam seeds from this mother that I lost:

^^^ This mother had an energetic sensual high. People mentioned getting lots of housework done when smoking it. One patient of mine with bad back pain told me a story of making some edibles with it. She ate some and then went and got a massage. She practically squealed with delight as she exclaimed "wow", describing how it felt. It was her favorite of a handful of samples from different strains I gave her to test how it would help her back. She did not want any that sapped her energy.

That Nepal Jam female was also very mold resistant. It was one of the latest ripening plants I grew. It survived a fall that had several rains, and foggy mornings. I never found a trace of mold on that one, while mold had appeared on all other late ones.

I was going to use that one in a cross to Bushman's Jamaican, after an intermediate crossing to Burmese to tame the Bushman's. Maybe I'll find another as good or better, but I'm really bummed to lose that one.

I crossed a Nepal Jam male, same one I used on my Nepal Jam female above, to a spicy and beefy Bangi Haze:
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I'm surprised I got a number of plants with very sativa looking flowers, even though the leaves are somewhat fat. I did not keep that Bangi Haze. I kept the one that looks like Congolese. It has super skinny leaves, looks like it has no Nepalese influence at all, but is ripe by October 7th. People who like stimulative varieties like that one very much. I keep two cuttings of that one as insurance against accidental loss. I like the high of that super skinny leaf Bangi Haze better, but the Nep Jam mother produced better, tasted better, and nothing matched it's mold resistance.

I have cuttings of all my plants this year. More pictures to come.

ThaiBliss

Update:


I am growing about a half dozen seeds from the Nepal Jam mother I lost. One of them has got me very excited. It is even more of a sprawling bush than it's mother shown above. It reminds me of Zamal. The interesting part is the aroma. The mother had a syrupy sweet Coca Cola aroma that got spicy at the very end. This child smells really "fresh" and some green fruit aroma. I went to write it down in my notebook, and I noticed that I used the term "fresh" earlier in the year, but I also wrote that it had a strong mean smell to it. Now it is just wonderfully fresh as the resin has yet to start piling on. It reminds me of a couple of the Bushman's Jamaican that I have been saving for breeding to this line.

When one door closes, another sometimes opens.

ThaiBliss

 

[Irotas]

Is Nepal Jam 100% sativa? I seen it advertised as 40% indica.

 

[Kalbhairav]

My personal opinion is that Nepalese genetics are a blend of NLD and BLD traits. A very interesting environment where you will find both tall and short expressions of plant.

For example; this is my greenhouse NepJam (from the new fem seed edition) and she looks very tight and almost indica looking. She's been tied down severely otherwise she would of been well over 6 ft.



I think dubi mentioned they'd been selected for more tight looking expressions in these later editions. Looks good to me.

 

[Irotas]

My personal opinion is that Nepalese genetics are a blend of NLD and BLD traits. A very interesting environment where you will find both tall and short expressions of plant.

For example; this is my greenhouse NepJam (from the new fem seed edition) and she looks very tight and almost indica looking. She's been tied down severely otherwise she would of been well over 6 ft.

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I think dubi mentioned they'd been selected for more tight looking expressions in these later editions. Looks good to me.

Thanks for the info.

Do you know if the high has any indica influence? I know that broad fan leaves doesn't mean the flowers will smoke like an indica. Maybe it's just sativa with broad fan leaves? I remember reading that reeferman's nepal highland is the same one used to make the nepal jam. And reeferman claimed it to be in between an indica and a sativa.

Thanks for the picture.

Do you have a clear picture of your stalk and stems?

 

[deepwaterdude]

Early NepJam - taken Sep 25

Early NepJam - taken Sep 25

This clone and her mother both flowered mid July, both throwing nanners on the cola tips when ready for harvest. Very honeyed smell and did great for such a small plant. Couldn't stop her from flowering.

 

[Kalbhairav]

Wow, 25th of Sept is pretty early, nice! I was hoping for that kind of short flowering with mine. Guess I got a longer flowering type. All is looking good though.







Looking very frosty indeed. These pics are from about a week ago, the plant is a bit further along now..

 

[Kalbhairav]

One more..



Sorry for the shitty out of focus pics..

 

[Kalbhairav]

Last one, I promise



Such a classic plant!

 

[afghan]

They look amazing! Ace work - fingers crossed for no mould and good ripening!

 

[Kygiacomo!!!]

my nep jam turned out great. it prolly could have went another 7 days but i had ripper activity in the area and had to take it right then. this is a solid strain imo. great yeild and great smoke. its not the strongest i have ever smoked but it is not weak either. perfect for daytime smoke. i had zero mold on it but mother nature has been perfect this last 30 days so cant really say how much mold resistance this one has. i'll be growing it again next year for sure.

 

[Kalbhairav]

Starting to fatten!

Starting to fatten!

Hey NepJam enthusiasts

So.. Still going here, slowly but surely.. All colas and buds are starting to fatten with pistils starting to fade. No mold or nastiness at all. Really enjoying growing this plant from the new Nepalese Jam feminized release.

Even though it would of been nice for the plant to finish a bit earlier where I am it's still not bad. Weather hasn't been terrible either.. I'm guessing an end of October harvest if it continues to have zero mold.

Very frosty indeed and quite a respectable yeild!

 

[Bleiweis]

Marvelous!

 

[Jahaze]

Kal B...they look FANTASTIC! Your green house came through for you this season. They look very healthy as well...can't wait for the smoke report. Nice work...

 

[Kalbhairav]

Hey Bleiweis, Jahaze
Thanks

Definitely a better season here weather wise Jahaze. I just hope it continues.
This is in fact just a single plant that went through my crazy amateur LST training. Also I'm using another product to supplement my organic bloom nute. I haven't really got it down yet but my haphazard supplementation seems to have a good effect.

If dubi ever reads this maybe Ace might take my suggestion to mate a nice early ish Nepjam fem with the a choosen Erdpurt fem. I think those two would make great parents for an all female early potent Northern Hemisphere outdoor variety. I know Ace are working on some Erdpurt crosses with Bubba and other BLD types but it would be nice to get some narrow leaf genes in their as well... Oh, and I'll test them

 

[Kalbhairav]

Just thought I would follow up on the single Nepalese Jam I grew this past summer. She came from the newest Nepalese Jam fem line amd was completely organically grown.

Before I expose you all to my terrible pictures of the dried flower (still haven't replaced my camera so phone pics for now), I just want to say that I'm pretty impressed with this original from Ace/Cannabiogen.
I live a few degree's over 50 lat so options for finding a var to suit my needs are slim. Fellow growers are forever telling me to give in and grow autos as they're probably best suited to my climate. It's wet here and the weather is down right hard to predict. Growing autos certainly would mean being able to have a harvest during and middle of summer.. But... Just can't bring myself to do it... yet..

The plant itself grew really well. It wasn't imbued with hybrid vigour which, of course, you won't get with an inbred variety like this; but growth was good and not at slow. I did quite a lot of bending of the main stalk and eventually topped the main stem so the plant didn't hit the ceiling of my crap plastic greenhouse.

Flower development was slow initially until it finally decided to go for it. I harvested at the end of October (sorry, no harvest pics) when damp threatened to ruin her. I was really lucky with the weather this season.. That is to say the NepJam survived with no mould right up until the end. She could of gone another week but was pretty much fully there and I didn't want to risk it.

She had neem sprayed on her but no other mould prevention. While the plant next to her started to become rife with Powdery Mildew the NepJam only had a couple of insignificant spots of it. She was also much further along so I cut my loses and culled the other plant to give the NepJam supremacy over the tent.

To conclude; the growth, resistance and flowering times are as Ace say they are. The NepJam can take it!! She endured wet, cold and mould spores all around but did not give in.. I could of gown her from cutting and she would of probably been done a week or two earlier.

So yeah, I'm impressed!

The buds after drying look good and aren't super airy. They have a good deal of resin coverage as well.

Here's some terrible pictures to give you an idea..

 

[Kalbhairav]

The smoke..

I got about 2 and a half ounces from the one plant. I think if given that extra week (or maybe more), the flowers would of put on even more weight. I was quite satisfied with what I got though.

Flowers have a minty, slightly fresh chemical smell with a lemon musk twist when the bud is broken up. They are by no means super fragrant flowers. I think given the opportunity to grow more of them would give a better result when it comes to loudness of fragrance.

The smoke is potent but not overpowering. I find a medium onset with a nice amount of speed followed by a reasonable thump through the high. It's social and smooth to begin with but can become a little more intense with more hits. I like to think of it as a summery high with a good amount of floatiness.. I'm no good on describing taste as I smoke tobacco..

Although it isn't going to blow you away the smoke is solid and a very good result from a plant grown above 50 lat. The thing I like most is that the Nepalese Jam has a vast amount of work gone into it. It's stable and a good mix of two landrace plants - not a multiple hybrid or flooded with skunk genetics. It's a classic that gives amazing vigour to other hybrids. Anyone who loves Mextiza or other NepJam hybrids should try the pure version..

In comparison to the bx1 regular seed I tried some years ago, this version of NepJam has a bit more potency and more all encompassing feeling. The stature and overall growth in my opinion is improved.

A pure classic - long may she be made available to the masses.. Highly recommended..

 

[window]

Fantastic result Kal, a very impressive girl and a nice yeild to boot.
Love 'erb with a summery vibe, have a pack in the fridge but regs, will get to them one day.
I know how hard it is to finish these plants in our outdoor environment so your ' crappy plastic greenhouse' has done you proud.
Super healthy looking too, nice flowers and a great report, nice one mate.

 

[Kalbhairav]

Thanks buddy

 

[ThaiBliss]

Greetings,

I should give an update about my Bangi Haze x Nepalese Jam grow. I grew about a dozen of this cross. These became monsters. Some topped out at over 16 feet tall.

As Kalbhairav states, mold resistance is remarkable. Our area got over 10 inches of rain in the last month of ripening. Yikes! I saved cuttings of all the plants but culled 4 or 5 of them due to mold. The remainder of the plants had little or no visible mold. This was a record wet month for October, and I took the opportunity to reinforce this valuable trait. Due to these genetics, I no longer fear growing plants that ripen in mid to late October. I'd prefer earlier ripening, of course, but this worked out very well for me.

I concur with Kalbhairav's smoke report generally. I would add that friends/patients are reporting that the high lasts a long time. I have noticed significant long lasting mood enhancing effects in a few Bangi Haze individuals I've tested, so it might be that the longevity of the high comes from that side. I'm pleased to see it come through. There are a few individuals that have much stronger terpene levels compared to the rest. The type of terpenes vary. Some are minty, spicy, or fruity. All seem to have a background chemical/medicine aroma. I have been testing the ones I culled to get a baseline of effects so I can notice any that stand out from the keepers. I'm holding off testing the pungent ones so that they get a longer cure before judging them.

I plan to breed one or two of these to a pure Jamaican cutting I'm holding to bring down the flowering time of it. If the potency and quality of the high permits, I have my eye on a pungent fruity cantaloupe smelling one with relatively tight flowers, and extremely good calyx to leaf ratio (one of a kind in this batch). If this proves more potent with the same quality of high, I will be overjoyed.

The quality of the high, the mold resistance, and the earliness of these genetics make me love this as a tool to use on more exotic heirloom strains.

ThaiBliss