need advice about my recieved chemdog d cut with TMV symptons

[subrob]

gosh, if i needed a new set of balls i would take you up on that bet...
EDIT: it is amazing how much animosity this discussion is bringing up...seems rather odd that this particular subject would be the center of so much bad juju and vibes in the community...and im no stranger to animosity on threads lately...but this subject?....

 

[whiskeytango420]

gosh, if i needed a new set of balls i would take you up on that bet...
EDIT: it is amazing how much animosity this discussion is bringing up...seems rather odd that this particular subject would be the center of so much bad juju and vibes in the community...and im no stranger to animosity on threads lately...but this subject?....

seriously...I thought we MIGHT, oh...I dunno...have a group of mind like this attempt to discuss possible ways to get a round/combat this stuff. Not bash each other...Silly me, what was I thinking.

good vibes

 

[ograskal]

Well whatever the ChemD has it not caused by the grower..It was the only plant in my garden looking like that...Also Crazy Composer knows how to grow and he is seeing the shit on his Chem D as well....So i Know its not somethin we are doing....Also Nspecta IGT and Osoul33t also have it and those fellas definately know how to grow....It is said that the ChemD that is sourced from Chemdog himself is infected and the ChemD that is sourced from JoeBrand is not infected so that could be the reason a few ChemD's arent showing symptoms...Thats just what i heard...~ogr

 

[heavy dank nugg]

you really think its "grower caused"??? Did you not just read how many respected growers posted seeing similar mutations?

yes jeff i did and as you posted eariler there is a whole lot of trading done. 1 grower alone could have possibly taken 100 clones with a tiny microscopic form of bacteria on his clippers...... 85 of said clones develope this virus or mutation......and then get cloned and so on.......its also possible that it is a recessive trait brought out by inbreeding..........it spreads in the garden cause it get into the medium..... or a gnat ......etc.... So again its something more than a deffency.....ill admit that......but its not tmv.......and all reports say its a pretty harmless thing anyway........

 

[subrob]

i can get with that^^^ after seeing earlier posts i assumed you meant growers error....

 

[heavy dank nugg]

everyone assumes cause of my frank manners that i mean thing in the most neg...light.which is very rarely the case...so i pay no mind to it....anyway glad the b.s. is resolved in this thread.

 

[FreedomFGHTR]

There is a whole range of possibilities including Arabic Mosiac Virus...

HOSTS: Arabic mosaic virus (ArMV), strawberry latent ringspot virus (SLRV), raspberry ringspot virus (RRSV) and tomato black ring virus (TBRV) all have wide host ranges. Strawberry and raspberry are the most important crops affected. Other hosts include Ribes species, Prunus species (SLRV, RRSV, TBRV), sugar beet (ArMV RRSV, TBRV), celery (ArMV SLRV TBRV), rhubarb (ArMV, SLRV) and hop (ArMV).

DISTRIBUTION: All occur inmost European countries, including the UK In addition: for ArMV New Zealand and Japan; for SLRV, New Zealand and reported in Canada; for TBRV intercepted by several non European countries but apparently not established.

SYMPTOMS: With ArMV, symptoms may include: stunting; chlorotic leaf mottle or mosaic; yellow spots, blotches or streaks; twisted, cupped or crinkled leaves. However, many infections remain symptomless.
With SLRV, plants usually remain symptomless. Some cultivars may show mottling and decline. However, symptoms are usually difficult to determine as the virus typically occurs in mixed infections with ArMV
With RRSV and TBRV, the early stages of infection are usually symptomless. Later symptoms vary with cultivar but may include irregular chlorotic spots, necrotic spots, streaky chlorosis and progressive stunting. RRSV and TBRV often occur together. Diagnosis of any of these viruses requires a laboratory test.

SOURCES: Introduced in infected, usually symptomless, plants. Once introduced, the viruses are spread locally by specific nematode vectors

 

[JeffSpicoli]

i never said it was for sure TMV (although thats what i think it is) ... But i know its not Nute/ph caused.. That was youre whole argument HDN... You were saying you were sure it is Nutrient/PH related... Then you said it was cause us west coast growers are lazy and dirty.. THAT is why this thread turned into a shitstorm... Because of Heavy Dank Nugs rude remarks. Its one thing to be adding to the discussion, but when you disrespect the west coast cannabis scene, that shit dont fly.

Like ograskal stated, this is definitely not caused by grower error.. People say it isnt TMV people say it is...
If Nspecta, IGT and obsoul say they got it tested, than thats good enough for me... I take those guys word if they say it came back positive for TMV.

 

[heavy dank nugg]

i never said it was for sure TMV (although thats what i think it is) ... But i know its not Nute/ph caused.. That was youre whole argument HDN... You were saying you were sure it is Nutrient/PH related... Then you said it was cause us west coast growers are lazy and dirty.. THAT is why this thread turned into a shitstorm... Because of Heavy Dank Nugs rude remarks. Its one thing to be adding to the discussion, but when you disrespect the west coast cannabis scene, that shit dont fly.

Like ograskal stated, this is definitely not caused by grower error.. People say it isnt TMV people say it is...
If Nspecta, IGT and obsoul say they got it tested, than thats good enough for me... I take those guys word if they say it came back positive for TMV.

you cant even be more wrong and you know it..... my whole arguement was its not tmv....and you took offence to a general statement..... twisted the words and meanings to make it a personall attack.. then you try to drag out year old shit... just to be a jerk.thats why it went south because of jeff spicolis immature personall attacks....and my immature reactions......... anyway let it go please......

 

[heavy dank nugg]

yes jeff i did and as you posted eariler there is a whole lot of trading done. 1 grower alone could have possibly taken 100 clones with a tiny microscopic form of bacteria on his clippers...... 85 of said clones develope this virus or mutation......and then get cloned and so on.......its also possible that it is a recessive trait brought out by inbreeding..........it spreads in the garden cause it get into the medium..... or a gnat ......etc.... So again its something more than a deffency.....ill admit that......but its not tmv.......and all reports say its a pretty harmless thing anyway........

because jeff dosent actually read the whole posts......heres what i mean by grower error.

 

[Greyskull]

Like ograskal stated, this is definitely not caused by grower error...

i agree with this observation

if there's any adverse effect the so-called "TMV" has on the Chemdog D Clone,I have yet to see it

i also agree with this observation

i don't think its that big of a deal in my experiences thus far with 'the trait'. its like a scratch on your ride's paint that you can see better in certain light than some others (because different environments seem to show different expressions?). some folks just want to know where the scratch came from.

speaking of girls with particular traits... would hate to see any of these in my garden lol

http://www.complex.com/blogs/2008/12/02/scarred-straight-7-hot-chicks-with-scars/

 

[Brastaman]

interesting. i've never paid any mind to the deformities because they are so inconsistent. I'll have one random leaf on a plant deformed and i've had a few leaves on one plant but never a full plant showing symptons. Also the deformities are random among the clones, some show the symptom and some don't. When i had the larry og it would most definitely grow away from the deformities meaning as a young clone it might show but then as it got older it would no further symptoms showed.
I have noticed that some other strains starting showing signs as well but they don't last, usually only show if they are in the same flowering room as an OG kush.
OG was the first i've seen to have this deformity and shows up every clone generation. the others grow out of it.

Has anyone seen these deformities outdoors with the same strains?

 

[Hazeseeker]

Hi Ojd,
yeah my Chem D has shown the same symptoms on some leaves as well man, not sure how old the Chem D is but it's maybe a virus it's picked up over time due to clone age/ repetative cloning = reduced natural immune system to fight pests/diseases etc?

so far i've just been removing the affected leaves when they show up, not sure if this is the correct thing to do or not? but it seems to grow out of it slightly as it moves into flowering. Doesn't seem to affect the growth of it tho thankfully

peace

 

[puffin fresh]

I dont think I have TMV or any virus for that matter but here are a few pics, hope you don't mind. The strawberry cough can put out entire single blade leaves with the same white pattern as in the picture.

DP - Strawberry Cough

DP - Blueberry

SS - Bubblegum

 

[ureapwhatusow]

here is a list of plant viruses from the association of applied biology with pictures for each one

http://www.dpvweb.net/dpv/dpvidx.php

many are of the same family

treatments are probably specific to family type so a spectrum of treatment could eliminate all


tissue culture as tom said is the proper way to eliminate TMV is probably the future in regards to holding a specific plant longer than its natural life cycle with less ill effect over the long term

 

[whiskeytango420]

Well, here is my Chem#4...looks ok I think. Just moved Area 51 to a new spot, and now we are using well water...dunno if this is a factor or not...But do these Chem#4 cuts look clean?...thanks in advance guys!

good vibes

Chem#4 cut

and here is a few pics of some of the shit going on on other strains...

 

[swampdank]

Transplant and those will take off Dub-T

I see that trait every round wit the 4. But they grow right out of it once established.


P.S. I bet she is pot bound too. Transplant time broski.

 

[NOYB]

The "TMV Scare" is pathetic,and uncalled for,and plays on the ignorance of others. The sooner people figure that out,the better off you'll all be.

Hardly. Don't know about the TMV thing but can be tested for. If a fungus can be treated...I would think. If this is not an issue then someone running the same cut can take on an 'infected' cut from someone, who has some experience with it spreading, and see if they can fix the pH and nute issues.

I do feel that IF there was legalization then a lot of the forum chatter would disappear because some simple testing would clear many things up. a lot of urban legends would be dis-proven...then canna growing might become as boring and uncontroversial as raising tomatoes.

 

[Rudedewd]

I ran the "D" for a few years and I would get some varigated leaves but they in no way affecting either the health of that cut or did it spread to any other cuts. If for some unknown reason the varigation bothers you drop the cut but to me it would be foolish to drop a perfectly healthy cut of a killer strain for what appears to me to be a cosmetic problem that only affects a few leaves and does not affect the finished product or the vigor of it's growth. At one time I was running like a dozen strains and the varigation that I'd get on the "D" never once spread to any other strain.

 

[ElGato]

pic looks alot like mite damage....borg check bro



mj