need advice about my recieved chemdog d cut with TMV symptons

[overmyhead]

All plant virus can be passed on in seed, or pollen for that matter, the mum of your seeds must have carried it.

Edit, @ Overmyhead, I see your test results now, should have read all the thread first so, maybe not in your case but it can be carried this way.

if the test was right then it would appear that I dont have any (of the tobamo viruses) anyway so I'm right back at square one!

 

[ojd]

well on the chem d cut i got i put into flower took 10 cuts and only 1 has rooted so far with another with a tiny weak root coming out of it
at the same time took some sssdh cuts and most of them have rooted nicely already
so she def roots crappy

she looks alot beter in flower and the disease has seem to stop spreading

im definately keeping this cut until i have a beter chem d cut as the chem d bud is to good to pass up

great info in this thread
thanks for everyone contributing
i been reading all just leaving people with expierience on the matter to lead the thread

peace

 

[DocLeaf]

This thread should be in the "ill plants" sub-forum,, really

Never heard of either,, so peace n love all

 

[theherbalizor]

My Chem D is now displaying no problems at all. And I managed to get 4/5 cuts to root in 10 days. I think when taking cuts that they should be taken from relatively unaffected growth and light not too close. Going into flower myself in the next week, can not wait she is one stinky bitch.

 

[tribeca]

I agree with most on the TMV scare that has surrounded all communities as of late.I have never had chem d or any of the crosses and have found twisted leafs for many years.I now think that this virus or whatever is soil baseed.The use of gibberellic acid,humus extracts as well as seaweed cause the same twisted leaf stucture that some are seeing.I also notice in my urkle as well as quite a few clones that purple stems were significant with these curling leafs.I think first and foremost we need better documentation of the grow reports as well as nutrient use,environment temps.,humidity and any but all additives.If we could get enough growers to do the same thing we could find the problems threw process of elimination.Just my opinion.I was told by someone that does not grow mj that the use of silica and uvb lighting would remove the virus after three rotations from root to flowering.Personally I dont know but will give it a try next year.

 

[SmokeyPufmaster]

I just want to say high to the fellas. I've been growing the d for a couple years now, and have noticed the leaf deformity on some plants. But it hasn't spread to my garden and hasn't affected the taste and high. Grow on!

 

[VenturaHwy]

if the test was right then it would appear that I dont have any (of the tobamo viruses) anyway so I'm right back at square one!

What viruses can this test detect? The reason I ask is there are different viruses that can infect cannabis. So if this test just detects TMV then it may not detect other viruses... The instructions are not very easy either.

https://orders.agdia.com/InventoryD.asp?loc=IN&collection=ISK 57400&attribute_Size=25

Intended Use:

The Tobacco mosaic virus Immunostrip is used to detect the presence of TMV in many different crops, such as vegetable, fruit, and ornamentals. TMV Immunostrips are perfect for use in the field, greenhouse and the lab.

Tobacco mosaic virus is an extremly stable virus and can easily infect adjacent plants and contaminate surfaces such as benches, pots, tools, etc.
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http://www.druglibrary.org/olsen/hemp/IHA/iha03111.html

Here are the viruses that can infect cannabis -

At least five viruses cause problems in hemp: the hemp streak virus (HSV), alfalfa mosaic virus (AMV), cucumber mosaic virus (CMV), arabis mosaic virus (ArMV) and hemp mosaic virus (HMV)
(McPartland 1999).

Viruses rarely kill Cannabis. They only exist and replicate in living plants. Viruses can, however, seriously reduce yields. Once acquired, they are nearly impossible to eradicate. Viruses invade all parts of plants. Pollen and seed infections transmit viruses to subsequent generations.
Five viral syndromes are described in the literature. In addition to these naturally-occurring infections, Hartowicz et al. (1971) screened 22 common plant viruses for their ability to infect wild hemp. Over half the viruses could infect Cannabis.

 

[VenturaHwy]

I see that there is a different test for each virus, so each test must be specific to that virus. There are 204 different virus tests...

https://orders.agdia.com/inventory.asp?CatId={5A66C559-B3A6-42CC-BC08-487688816607}

 

[theherbalizor]

Here are some shots of my Chem D cut complete with TMV or whatever. On day 43. She has been about 10 inches from the 600w. And doing great. Stinks to high heaven. I think my feed may be causing early maturing. So have adjusted.

 

[VenturaHwy]

What's the chemdog d smell like theherbalizor?

 

[theherbalizor]

Well, to put it blunt, IT FECKING STINKS.

BAD.

She is different to strains like cheese and diesel, even og, where the smell hits you in the face straight away. I find with the D it just makes the room smell like you have ALOT of heavy afghans in bloom. When I removed this one plant from the room to hang, that heavy dank, greasy, old sock and chemical smell left the room. I can only imagine what a room full of this smells like.

And I had put one small, 5 gram bud, on the radiator of my bedroom to speed dry and left it while I walked me dogs. Came home about 2 hours later and opened my front door to be smacked in the face by a god dam strong skunk odor. Went to check all my carbons etc. Nope. Its that one little bud, 3 stories above the front door. DAM. Back in the dry tent for that bud.

And if you touch the d, just squeeze a bud and then go out with out cleaninng up you will get heads turning left right and centre. You'll continually get whiffs of bud like your carrying an ozzy with you or something.

When I do a smoke report Ill post a link here.

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

First of all viruses can be eliminated by cloning very small meristem tips from fast growing plants and growing them in vitro or otherwise into virus free plants if you are lucky, also heat can kill viruses, but also the plants if you aren't careful.

About TMV it does infect Cannabis but a lot more are also suspected: Cucumber green mottle mosaic virus (CGMMV), Kyuri green mottle mosaic virus, Odontoglossum rinspot virus (ORSV), Pepper mild mottle virus (PMMoV), Ribgrass mosaic virus (RMV), Streptocarpus flower break virus (SFBV), Sunhemp mosaic virus (SHMV), Tobacco mosaic virus including common strain (TMV and TMV-c), Tomato mosaic virus (ToMV)

Only 5 viruses regularly infect Cannabis.
HSV, Hemp Streak Virus, vector aphids also seed transmitted
AMV, Alfalfa Mosaic Virus, vector aphids and dodder also seed transmitted
CMV, CMVX, Cucumber Mosaic Virus, vector aphids also seeds and pollen from infected plants.
ArMV, Arabis Mosaic Virus, vector soil nematodes and infected seeds
HMV, Hemp Mosaic Virus
That said Cannabis can be infected by the following viruses, BBWV (Broad bean wilt virus), RRV (Raspberry Ringspot Virus), PVX (Potato Virus X, PVY (Potato Virus Y, by inoculation.
TRSV Tobacco Ring Spot Virus, TSV Tobacco Streak Virus, ERSV eunoymous ringspot,
EMV Elm Mosaic Virus, all do infect Cannabis.
I destroy any suspect plants with viruses, as soon as I can. keep your tools clean.
I have found 27 viruses that can be found un Cannabis

-SamS

 

[RetroGrow]

First of all viruses can be eliminated by cloning very small meristem tips from fast growing plants and growing them in vitro or otherwise into virus free plants if you are lucky, also heat can kill viruses, but also the plants if you aren't careful.-SamS

How does one do this?

 

[Lloyd_Christmas]

Well, to put it blunt, IT FECKING STINKS.

BAD.

She is different to strains like cheese and diesel, even og, where the smell hits you in the face straight away. I find with the D it just makes the room smell like you have ALOT of heavy afghans in bloom. When I removed this one plant from the room to hang, that heavy dank, greasy, old sock and chemical smell left the room. I can only imagine what a room full of this smells like.

And I had put one small, 5 gram bud, on the radiator of my bedroom to speed dry and left it while I walked me dogs. Came home about 2 hours later and opened my front door to be smacked in the face by a god dam strong skunk odor. Went to check all my carbons etc. Nope. Its that one little bud, 3 stories above the front door. DAM. Back in the dry tent for that bud.

And if you touch the d, just squeeze a bud and then go out with out cleaninng up you will get heads turning left right and centre. You'll continually get whiffs of bud like your carrying an ozzy with you or something.

When I do a smoke report Ill post a link here.

Truth. I once made the mistake of trimming some D in an unscubbed area. When a friend came over he was quick to tell me that it he caught a whiff almost a block from my house. Oops.

 

[TNJed]

Worst thing I ever dealt with....had to kill all of my plants, move my garden, and scrub all my gear down w/ bleach to get rid of it. Good luck...

 

[subrob]

wow...i forgot aboutthis thread and some of the shit slinging that went on! hahaha....for those reading the whole thread from the begining...one point to clarify: when people are speaking of "my cut of chem d doesnt have this trait" or "mine does" we have since found out, here in cali, there are at least two cuts being passed as chem d....there is one that was passed from chemdawg to the person who gave it to the dago crew...thats the one we consider to be the "real" chem d (obviously haha) this HAS the trait...and another most of us refer to as 'chemdog' which DOES NOT have this trait/virus/whatever....it WAS NOT a cal mag def as mr colorinthelines suggested...hahaha...idiot...however after doing a lil research i dont think many believe it to be TMV, as that would pretty much wipe out the entire garden...but its still got it, whatever it is, and it will spread if you use the same instruments to take clones, or even share a reservoir....it WILL also spread to some of the offspring, but not nec all, as evidenced by ob's 'alien dog' seeds...still badass shit