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Nature's Wonder Drug Curbed by Illuminati

foomar

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This puts it well.

If 90 percent of Americans believe in God and 60 percent believe life exists elsewhere, then around 45 to 54 percent of Americans both believe in God and believe in aliens.

My mind has a hard time wrapping itself around the idea that someone could understand the universe’s size to the point that they acknowledge the possibility of aliens, yet not enough to reject the idea of God — especially the standard anthropomorphic, personal, human-like God(s) of the world’s major religions.

Davids been busy.

The Reuters Ipsos poll of 23,000 adults in 22 countries showed that more than 40 percent of people from India and China believe that aliens walk among us disguised as humans, while those least likely to believe in this are from Belgium, Sweden and the Netherlands (8 percent each).
 

sso

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well, its damn sure with money that only a minority will become rich.
though its a moot matter, the top has just about sucked all the money into its hands.
money is about to become valueless.

though it never had any real value, as shown by the fact that real work (all the hard work)

is practically valueless, barely enough to live, slave´s wages.

personally i dont understand why there hasnt been a revolution allready, its obvious the people in power arent really people at all (they certainly dont show any of the finer qualities of humans and in fact are lower than animals.)

hoping for change from these bastards is about as futile as farting in a full elevator and hoping no one will smell it.

that or pissing in the wind, hoping to stay dry.
 

lost in a sea

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bill gates is a genocidal maniac, he needs a bullet or a whole magazine, and then once he dies, give all his billions to every single person in the world, share that shit round!

i dont give a shit who gave you neg rep for that,,

fucking truth,, so many milk fed babies around here its funny :biglaugh:
 

sso

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cant believe how many people thought steve jobs was a saint.

always looked like an evil prick to me (and his "friends" reports after the death, confirmed it)


bill gates looks like a sleazeball trying to buy his way into heaven.
 

~Shhh~

JETS
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sso made a great point about the Devil and God in an epic family squabble I often see it that way, and think what the hell does this have to do with me :D lol!!

It seems to me if I were to interpret the Bible to the point where I believed in the Devil and God as defined by the New/Old testament the first question that I'd have is why doesn't God just kick 10 shades of shit of the Devil and kill the fucker? We all get to live forever... Happy days! That's not to say I don't have faith in something...

I think the top 1percent of society have already taken the world over and pwned it for a long time... What we see nowdays is the amalgamation of this takeover if you will... Anyone that thinks that someone whom is rotated every 4 years 8 at best has a major influence on world events is deluded imho, of course the real power- money and influence is wielded amongst those more permanent than this, that much is obvious...
 

lost in a sea

Lifer
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This puts it well.



Davids been busy.

why have you got to be an ass ???



what do those two things have to do with him ???

stop trolling with your dumb batshit comments,, no one cares..

and its obvious who is just here to keep bringing up aliens and ufos,, its the people that have been programmed to just associate anything alternative with that on purpose to discredit every alternative arguement,,

thats why icke says some of the things he says because he knows there are dipshits that will never get all the metaphors/allegory and symbolism woven through existence that you would need to comprehend, so just throw them off early,, better that than have them following you and i would do the same thing,,

he doesnt want to wake up sheeple thats how you get dead,, so tarnish yourself with something so dumb that it insults the intelligence of the people saying its dumb,,, its on purpose,,

thats why alex jones shouts like a maniac and damages his own credibility imo,, if he didnt he'd have a car crash or something,,

but im being a batshit crazy ufo believer again so dont listen to a word i said.. nor reply..
 
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sso

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thanks ~Shhh~.

the middle east religions dont make sense unless you think they were created to control the superstitious masses, just too much nonsense.


besides i just cant look at the universe and think that some "human" made it (god is always personified)

anything that made the cosmos is far beyond our understanding and probably would not try to contact us, any more than the ants.

other religions dont make much more sense either, for example the native americans with their great spirit.

according to them, the great spirit dumped us here and left us to our own devices (though with instructions)

and then comes regularily by and destroys the world cause "we have been bad" (well, destroys all humans, not the world, just with some horrible calamity)



...its like some father, locking his child in some great big room, saying "ok if you do this and this, and not this and that, i wont kill you when i come back"



funny though the believers, mostly think one a fool for not following along, but then again, the first commandment according to the churches, is "fear your god"

so it kinda reminds me of being a german against hitler and one of the nazi is laughing at one for being such a fool for not following hitler ("haha you are gonna get it later!")

hehehe, oh dear :D

of course if you imagine a loving and compassionate god, then religions make even less sense, why would he need priests (driving around in rolls)

?

why would it need temples? (built with blood (could have fed many hungry anyway, the effort it took to raise them))

why would it just contact a few people?

of course you could imagine, that god talked to those seeking and ready,but then why not stop them from talking about this to people not ready?

why start all these factions all over the place?

why not just leave well enough alone?

could of course say, that the body does not matter and the spirit is all that matters, that all this torture and genocide is "good" in the end, weeding the crap out from the good.

but .. lot of this crap only served to make more crap. and it certainly does not seem to us that this existence does not matter.

but then you find out some things.

did you know that the priests of israel, did not believe in afterlife?

but most everyone else did?

and that many people in power, dont believe in an afterlife? and thats why they are so materialistic..

and why they are so fond of other people believing in it and therefore "just waiting for their just rewards in the next life" (content at being poor, cause jesus said blessed are the poor..)

though, personally i dont see the point of life if there is no afterlife, reincarnation or whatnot (in fact, most evidence points to the truth of it..)

but this might serve to help understand, why religion is such an uttering festering shithole.
 

sso

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why have you got to be an ass ???



what do those two things have to do with him ???

stop trolling with your dumb batshit comments,, no one cares..

and its obvious who is just here to keep bringing up aliens and ufos,, its the people that have been programmed to just associate anything alternative with that on purpose to discredit every alternative arguement,,

thats why icke says some of the things he says because he knows there are dipshits that will never get all the metaphors/allegory and symbolism woven through existence that you would need to comprehend, so just throw them off early,, better that than have them following you and i would do the same thing,,

he doesnt want to wake up sheeple thats how you get dead,, so tarnish yourself with something so dumb that it insults the intelligence of the people saying its dumb,,, its on purpose,,

thats why alex jones shouts like a maniac and damages his own credibility imo,, if he didnt he'd have a car crash or something,,

but im being a batshit crazy ufo believer again so dont listen to a word i said.. nor reply..


why are you so sensitive lost?

good points on icke and jones though..

who the fuck wants to be the "savior" ??

who the fuck wants that drag ass role?

when has it ever served anything but lots more confusion and a dead prophet??

save me save me, but as soon as someone dares, sure gets lots of "listeners" , some activists.

but just as soon as the "prophet" is dead, the movement is dead and things back to "normal"

sure might have changed a few things, but the bastards in power find another way to press the yoke

and the beasts happily accept it!

who the fuck wants to waste their life for that?!

sure, if the people all came together and stood together

lol and came to me .

id say "what the fuck do you need a leader for? do you need! someone to think for you?!"

and what the fuck are you then to me? brainless and thoughtless sheep?

good for a cuddle on a warm night and thats it??

"united you have ALL the power in the world, AND ANYTHING WITHIN YOUR GRASP! but you need someone to lead you? wtf?"
 

RudeDog

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sso made a great point about the Devil and God in an epic family squabble I often see it that way, and think what the hell does this have to do with me :D lol!!

It seems to me if I were to interpret the Bible to the point where I believed in the Devil and God as defined by the New/Old testament the first question that I'd have is why doesn't God just kick 10 shades of shit of the Devil and kill the fucker? We all get to live forever... Happy days! That's not to say I don't have faith in something...

I think the top 1percent of society have already taken the world over and pwned it for a long time... What we see nowdays is the amalgamation of this takeover if you will... Anyone that thinks that someone whom is rotated every 4 years 8 at best has a major influence on world events is deluded imho, of course the real power- money and influence is wielded amongst those more permanent than this, that much is obvious...

Satan at war with Jah my friend....Satan can do everything God can do except create humans. We were made in the image of God. We are God.
 

sso

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according to buddha, the devil is just a mental construct, not really real.

your statement rudedog, really just beggars more questions, who is god then and who is the devil?

if the devil is just created by god, then why?

cause we as the children of god, need a challenge? (...that would be bit like taking your family pitbull and siccing him on the toddler in the family..)

and being made in the image of god does not say we are god, are we made in the essence of god? then where are our powers? where is our eternal life?

why do we have to die for it? pawns in the war between our parent and what our oldest sibling?

also, statements like this, "like your religion is ultimately right" are somewhat arrogant.

your beliefs are only believed by a handful of people.

where do you come off in saying it is the ultimate religion and holder of the truth?
have you read and studied all the religions? prayed to their gods? meditated on this?

which does remind me of the jews, "the chosen people of god" and look at the trouble it got them in?
 

sso

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...i dunno about you, but saying "i am god" kinda makes me feel silly.

thinking there is a god, does not give me comfort.

having the sky for a hat and the wind as my cloak and people as company, does give me comfort though..

everything happens through people (all the really good and bad shit anyway, the rest is just the clockwork cosmos)

everything.

and it pisses me off someone saying thank god because of good people actions. (or because the lava went the other way and fried those other guys not me)

when im good, its because of god? and when im bad its because of the devil?

ridiculous!

and if not?

then what use is god or the devil?

comfort about the afterlife?

well, i did not want to take anyone´s word or book over experience, so i sought out the truth in these matters, i did find out there is an afterlife and spirits.

you could do the same.

besides, if god is just people, then god is just people.

god would be the highest expression of man,

a good, compassionate, loving person.

what use to me is an invisible friend in the sky? (who´s never around..well, except metaphorically and perhaps in dreams..(oh and according to some, burning bushes)

what use to me are rituals and prayer to some deity? (though actually prayers seem to work, though i wonder if thats because we actually are god.

but if so, then the term becomes meaningless, cause its all people.

we might be divine and allpowerful in truth

but its time to look to ourselves and not.

to the sky.
 

sso

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buddha said, god is in the heart

and if thats true.

then i am god (and god is not anything but me and other people (animals and plants included..)

and then again, the term becomes meaningless.

im just me, a person, im not gonna go calling myself a god (originally a scandinavian word for deities that controlled lightning and such (nature "gods")

it would be bit ridiculous and pompous.
 

sso

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and why wouldnt that be the same thing?

nah, im not gonna tell ya what to believe.

in truth, i do call upon god for assistance and comfort.

and it works.

but, trying to define god as anything but a loving force, feels like lessening it.

how could god be at war with anything?

trying to fit it within a religion, seems pointless.

it does not require our worship.

anything that requires worship, is evil. specially if it requires sacrifice.

i find the starwars line quite adequate, "the force is my ally"

because its me.
 

itisme

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well, its damn sure with money that only a minority will become rich.
though its a moot matter, the top has just about sucked all the money into its hands.
money is about to become valueless.

though it never had any real value, as shown by the fact that real work (all the hard work)

is practically valueless, barely enough to live, slave´s wages.

personally i dont understand why there hasnt been a revolution allready, its obvious the people in power arent really people at all (they certainly dont show any of the finer qualities of humans and in fact are lower than animals.)

hoping for change from these bastards is about as futile as farting in a full elevator and hoping no one will smell it.

that or pissing in the wind, hoping to stay dry.

I agree 100% with that. That is why we need Ron Paul. His message goes against everything that richest and powerful. The richest are an issue because that makes them more powerful.

I just came from a local straw poll vote and we had this lady talking about UN Agenda 21 rezoning. Then we had 4 people running for spots in our education system fighting the closing of all the schools. Then we had a few local businesss men stand up and talk about they couldn't move a 2X4 without a permit and another has to gas up 30 cars a day. Ouch...He said my exsistence in the middle class it being threatened......We have some people here doing good work. Get informed and attend your local meetings, not that some aren't.


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foomar

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why have you got to be an ass ???

Thats a bit harsh , given some of the posts in this thread , as they both relate to how people think , and the internal conflict many people of faith feel in a world of science.

The alien quote is particularly relevent to David , as he has taken and elaborated on an existing spiritual belief , to help give it credence.
 

lost in a sea

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fair enough :)

i dont know anyone who started believing in ufos because of icke and i always saw the underlying point of what he was saying ,,

lizards-lizard brain (brainstem area)

lizard brain where fight and flight comes from which is how fear disregards information and runs,, also lower carnal thoughts where empathy doesnt exist,, the basic part of our animal brain inheritance along with the mammalian brain,,

so you could say that someone who actively selects their population away from any empathy and the empathy gene (group) could be called a lizard people because they find it easier to access that brainstem (lizard brain) thoughts and not mind that everyday people are killed because of their greed.

i believe in alien humans but they are from this earth,, their alien to us anyway..

just look at their breeding ;)
 

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Those illumianti cards are greatly epic!,
they are like seeing into the future if you had them back when they released,
 

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