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My plants have been listen too much to Yellow Submarine by Beatles :(

flylowgethigh

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When I think roots, I think yucca and maybe also some coconut. If the soil was too dry, the roots need to rebuild, and they will. Are you inoculating the soil with microbes and fungus?
 

GoatCheese

Active member
Veteran
How to get a feel how much moisture there is in the containers is by lifting them up abit. Next time you water them lift them up and try to get a feel of how much they weigh in your hands compared to a fairly dry container. This way you can estimate how much moisture there still is in the container and how much they might need watering.

Every plant is an individual and use the moisture in the soil in their own time. If the top soil appears to be too dry but in your hands you can feel that the bottom part of the container still feels heavy and has alot of moisture in it, then you can give them a smaller portion just to moisten the top soil, just little enough that you won’t see any run off. ..and then next watering you give them a larger amount with proper run off.
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About BioBizz nutrients..
I also use these nutes and some of my bottles have been few years old and my plants have grown just fine, so i doubt there’s anything wrong with your old nutes.
Like i wrote earlier, the green color on your plants is dark enough, so they are getting enough food, you have just been under watering them and that is why they are yellowing.
 

bondemand

New member
How to get a feel how much moisture there is in the containers is by lifting them up abit. Next time you water them lift them up and try to get a feel of how much they weigh in your hands compared to a fairly dry container. This way you can estimate how much moisture there still is in the container and how much they might need watering.

Every plant is an individual and use the moisture in the soil in their own time. If the top soil appears to be too dry but in your hands you can feel that the bottom part of the container still feels heavy and has alot of moisture in it, then you can give them a smaller portion just to moisten the top soil, just little enough that you won’t see any run off. ..and then next watering you give them a larger amount with proper run off.
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About BioBizz nutrients..
I also you these nutes and some of my bottles have been few years old and my plants have grown just fine, so i doubt there’s anything wrong with your old nutes.
Like i wrote earlier, the green color on your plants is dark enough, so they are getting enough food, you have just been under watering them and that is why they are yellowing.

Oh the irony of saying the have been listing too much to yellow submarine then i havent watered them enough :) Thanks alot man! I try water some more! Makes sense with the colas being fine green!
 

Switcher56

Comfortably numb!
How to get a feel how much moisture there is in the containers is by lifting them up abit. Next time you water them lift them up and try to get a feel of how much they weigh in your hands compared to a fairly dry container. This way you can estimate how much moisture there still is in the container and how much they might need watering.

Every plant is an individual and use the moisture in the soil in their own time. If the top soil appears to be too dry but in your hands you can feel that the bottom part of the container still feels heavy and has alot of moisture in it, then you can give them a smaller portion just to moisten the top soil, just little enough that you won’t see any run off. ..and then next watering you give them a larger amount with proper run off.
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About BioBizz nutrients..
I also you these nutes and some of my bottles have been few years old and my plants have grown just fine, so i doubt there’s anything wrong with your old nutes.
Like i wrote earlier, the green color on your plants is dark enough, so they are getting enough food, you have just been under watering them and that is why they are yellowing.

Great advice! I would like to add the use of a moisture meter as well as going by pot/weight. In order to be effective you must take the reading at the "root zone". The saturation layer is the bottom eight of the pot. Therefore, shoving your probes to the bottom of the pot will give you a false positive (even with the use of cloth pots, not so bad as a conventional pot, but not an accurate measurement either. One will be able to figure out where their root zone is established at, with experience gained from post mortems.

Cloth pots do dry out quicker, there is no denying that. That being said many don't like 'em for that reason alone. One has to adjust his/her growing conditions accordingly. The benefits of using a cloth pot far outweigh, some reported negatives. Post mortem https://youtu.be/9J8Dx3Yw9wM
 

Growenhaft

Active member
10l (2gal) mentioned in his original post!

2gal=7,56l

nothing is displayed in his opening post. also not the watering amount, and fertilization was carried out as before. and you think you can help with biobizz? without this information? respect!
 

Switcher56

Comfortably numb!
2gal=7,56l

nothing is displayed in his opening post. also not the watering amount, and fertilization was carried out as before. and you think you can help with biobizz? without this information? respect!

4.54l per imperial gallon!!! Have a nice day :tiphat:

ETA: That being said he didn't give us much to go on.
 
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Growenhaft

Active member
that's why I ask ... as long as these questions are not answered ... can only be nonsense like pouring a lot of drainage as a help. we are talking about biobizz here. imperial gallon? really now? I had never heard of it. thanks you british are a funny people. an extra sausage for everything.
 

bondemand

New member
3 gallon / 11L buckets.. Have been water ing around 0,4-0,5L every 2nd or 3rd day.. Mostly 2nd day :)

Next grow Will be the autopots for sure haha.
 

Switcher56

Comfortably numb!
that's why I ask ... as long as these questions are not answered ... can only be nonsense like pouring a lot of drainage as a help. we are talking about biobizz here. imperial gallon? really now? I had never heard of it. thanks you british are a funny people. an extra sausage for everything.

You make as much sense as an enema! You yanks... I'm Canadian!
 

Switcher56

Comfortably numb!
3 gallon / 11L buckets.. Have been water ing around 0,4-0,5L every 2nd or 3rd day.. Mostly 2nd day :)

Next grow Will be the autopots for sure haha.

See post #14. I water/feed @ a ratio of 1.5l every 3rd day. You are definitely underwatering at a minimum. Auto pots will not solve your problem. Educating yourself will :tiphat:
 

exploziv

pure dynamite
Administrator
Veteran
Not every plant and every grow has same watering needs. My soil surface water evaporation is low because i keep my soil covered and they use just about 1 to 1.5 liters a water a week. Vpd matters a lot as well. You can't judge water needs so easy without complete enviromental data.
 

Switcher56

Comfortably numb!
Not every plant and every grow has same watering needs. My soil surface water evaporation is low because i keep my soil covered and they use just about 1 to 1.5 liters a water a week. Vpd matters a lot as well. You can't judge water needs so easy without complete enviromental data.

I hear you good buddy. I stated before (on numerous threads) your mileage will vary dependent on your environment. In this particular case, watering a pot that size (especially a cloth pot, not that, that is the problem here) 0.4-0.5l every couple of days or 3, is definitely not sufficient to support plant life and his plant is telling him so.
 

exploziv

pure dynamite
Administrator
Veteran
Yeah, that's right. When i used cloth pots I was watering liters every other day.
 

bondemand

New member
Youre right Guys.. I think after i tuened my LED to full power the need for water have been much higher than i thougt. You think i still Will get decent results with the plants as they are now?

Thanks alot All
 

flylowgethigh

Non-growing Lurker
ICMag Donor
Bottom watering has been a lifesaver for me. I have another plant I need to up-pot, and need another SIP bed to put it on. Going into a 10gallon bag. 7 gallon pan, cut the top off a plastic water bottle, and slits in the bottom, and make a SIP. Set the bag on top, keep the water level an inch below the top of the wick media. You can top water the wick, and also top water the bag. You can see the thick white roots coming through the bag into the wick. My blumat moisture digital meter runs about 28 - 35 with the soil wicking up the moisture. It is hard to keep the soil that moist from the top. If you want the water to wick up better, put on a layer of mulch like straw. I like the top soil dryer to prevent gnats, and add cover crop (clover) to increase the root activity up there. Roots make sparks.

I use perlite with 1" layer of vermeculite as my wick media.

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This new software is totally fucked for posting up pictures that you have already posted. The reason is they galleries don't let you put the pics from a thred in one place, then get them from there. It takes a lot more time, and the pics stay on the laptop. When I delete them, goodbye.
 
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Switcher56

Comfortably numb!
Youre right Guys.. I think after i tuened my LED to full power the need for water have been much higher than i thougt. You think i still Will get decent results with the plants as they are now?

Thanks alot All

IMHO, only if you follow the advice provided here. Yes you can reverse the damage done. Will your harvest be greater than if the plant was properly looked after? No!

One thing you must do is bring your VPD in line. @ 40% RH = a dry environment, your plant is sucking up the water from the pot, in order to cool down. Perspiration just like us. If you had water sufficiently for the ambient condition, you might not have realized what was going on, if the plants were otherwise healthy. Growing weed is relatively simple if you provide your plant with its needs. But... your and I mean "your" environment needs to be dialed in, for your environment (where you live), for "your" growing conditions.

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Read the grow guide above (little box, re: transpiration rates etc... for the various stages of growth) @ 40% and 82 deg F, your environment was in the red zone. I am in my final push on my current grow. 55% RH at 75 deg F (lights on) 55% 68 deg (lights off)

One thing you have failed to provide... folks have asked and you are not providing your info, wrt your environment. Otherwise we are shooting in the dark. So lets see some info. What's your set up?
  • tent size
  • light size (watts) LED, CMH, what?
  • exhaust fan size and capacity (should be variable speed) can be used as both a temp controller but also as a dehumidifier (in some circumstances. To much exhaust speed = lowering not just RH but temp as well.
  • humidifier
  • dehumidifier (can be replace with a simply inline fan, exhausting back in the room via a charcoal filter. Outdoor would be a better option.
  • reference material
  • tools e.g moisture meter, PAR meter, etc...
If you are growing indoors... then, you must control the environment. I live in the Maritimes where the summer climate here is not conducive to growing effectively or efficiently ($$$). Therefore, I don't grow here from end May until end of Aug.
 

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flylowgethigh

Non-growing Lurker
ICMag Donor
I was using wet tee shirts / sweatshirts hanging on my tent wall to keep humidity and temps in line. Then I got a vaporizer which did the trick, but the shirts work well. A pain in the azz to keep wet.
 

Growenhaft

Active member
3 gallon / 11L buckets.. Have been water ing around 0,4-0,5L every 2nd or 3rd day.. Mostly 2nd day :)
and kept the biobizz scheme 100% right from the start? at least as far as grow and bloom are concerned?
how long was your vegitation phase, how old were the plants when you switched to 12/12. and when did you end up in the final pot?
 

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