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MotherLode Gardens 2016

DuskrayTroubador

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The garden is lookin' great, Shcrews.

I gotta give you some tough love though, especially since nobody else is doing it.

You gotta quit bringing random chicks that you meet on vacation back to your ganja farm in the mountains where you live alone with one helper and a poodle. I don't mean to come across like a dick, but that's pretty dumb. Sure, you've been lucky up to now, but it's asking to get jacked; especially when you're staying at the same place for multiple years. Sure they may seem nice now, but what if they're in a rough spot with a rough crowd a year or two from now? You can bet they'll remember that guy who took them up to his pot farm for a few lays.

Moreover, you don't need to tell (cool) girls what you do for a living to get them to like you. You got your degree in Sociology, say you work at a non-profit organization related to healthcare. It's not lying and it's no more specific than you need to be with someone you've just met (and it doesn't sound like BS or something that is a cover story for growing that would lead to suspicions). A lot of really cool chicks don't much care if a guy has two nickels to rub between his fingers. I've been to SoCal, and I honestly did get the impression that most of the people there are essentially just like all the rat-race gold-digging drama lovers in New Jersey, only with more money (or want it more), less fake Italian nonsense, and think they're even cooler. In other words, if you're meeting girls who you feel will only like you if they know what you do, go somewhere else to vacation and meet girls. Go to Oregon or Hawaii next time.

Regarding cool chicks that are actually worth getting to know: take pride in being good at what you do. If you can allow yourself to be proud of product of your hard work, you'll lose your insecurity and your need to justify or prove yourself to other people (and most people aren't worth proving anything to anyway). Consequently, as a more confident person (and never forget that true confidence comes from humility: being knocked down, having your ego checked, and working through adversity and getting better; anything else is just douchey), you'll be much less chasing tail and much more choosing the real women from the hordes of superficial ones who just want to have a story to tell all their friends about their fling with a pot farmer. Women can SMELL insecurity and they can smell real confidence. Guess which ones flock to which scent. It gets lonely on the hill; wouldn't it be nice to have a REAL WOMAN there by your side throughout the year as opposed to the occasional flings that are a huge security risk?

That, and this may be more of an old-school east coast thing, but learn to profile. While there is some truth to the saying "you can't judge a book by its cover". there's also some bullshit to it. How people dress, unless they're trying to be deceptive (e.g. the pot grower who dresses real Republican while hauling several kilos in the trunk), one's looks generally do say something about them that isn't far from the truth. I've been told I look like a Hell's Angel; I'm not (I don't even know how to ride a motorcycle), but I certainly didn't go to fucking private school, either. I've been a bouncer at several bars and profiling is VERY useful; I was pretty good at knowing which motherfuckers were going to be trouble.

That being said, the girl you pictured above (with a tramp-stamp on the back of her neck and giant guages) isn't someone who I would bring to my pot farm, unless she was successful in some creative endeavor such as an artist of sorts (and by that I mean an actually successful artist, not "I play guitar on Venice beach"). When someone doesn't have their shit together or isn't finding success or has little going for them, they can flip on a dime. That girl could very well be cool as fuck, I'd probably hang out with her at a bar before most people, but I sure as fuck wouldn't tell her I grow pot unless I'd known her for quite some time and know how successful she is in her own life. While she looks like someone who could be really cool, she also looks like someone who can very easily hang out with wrong, shitty, dangerous crowds of people.

I used to think profiling was something only bigots and assholes do. Then I learned that it's just as much a survival method as learning how to defend yourself. I can be one of the nicest people you'll ever come across and restaurant/bar staff at places I've never been to are always shocked at how polite, well-spoken, and generous I am given my appearance. But I'm also a serious motherfucker. And I've learned that if someone looks like trouble, that's strike one. If you get the slightest whiff that they're not cool as fuck, that's strike two and "strike three" is make-believe and a dumb, risky step to wait for before you make your verdict to get the hell away from them.

Be smart, Shcrews.
 

FoothillFarming

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Good post Duskray.

It's a double edge sword. You stay in the hills and do nothing but grow pot, and you stay lonely. You do nothing but chase tail, you don't grow pot. If you want to grow pot, and meet girls, the hills is a hard place to achieve this.

All I know, is only a handful of people have been to my grow. In the 20+ years of growing, I can count the number of people that have been to my farms off the top of my head. With that said, I was lucky enough to find my soulmate in middle school. We didn't exclusively date till after college, however it's been great having a teammate in the crazy game.

Stay safe screws.
 

Shcrews

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Sure, you've been lucky up to now, but it's asking to get jacked; especially when you're staying at the same place for multiple years.

That's what ppl said in my thread last yr too. Appreciate the concern but I'm curious, How do you picture that scenario going down and what makes you think I would be unprepared? Btw at harvest I definitely won't be alone up there with just one helper and a "poodle" as you seem to think.

I've been through a lot of crazy shit, more than most people. Paranoia is pointless, you never see the fucked up shit coming in life. I'm pretty cautious though.

Also the girl in the picture already works on a weed farm.
 

packerfan79

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I guess there is always a chance we take. I am sure most large scale gardens need trim help. So that's exposure you really can't avoid. I don't have but a handful of people who are family or close friends who see what I have.
 

DuskrayTroubador

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That's what ppl said in my thread last yr too. Appreciate the concern but I'm curious, How do you picture that scenario going down and what makes you think I would be unprepared? Btw at harvest I definitely won't be alone up there with just one helper and a "poodle" as you seem to think.

I've been through a lot of crazy shit, more than most people. Paranoia is pointless, you never see the fucked up shit coming in life. I'm pretty cautious though.

Also the girl in the picture already works on a weed farm.

No matter how prepared you are, every encounter with rippers is a net loss in some respect or others.

I wouldn't say you never see the fucked up shit coming; there's some truth to the old saying "you reap what you sow." You get both the unexpected and, at times, the shit that you maybe thought wasn't the best idea coming back to haunt you. And while you're right about paranoia and you've got to take risks, you've also committed yourself to projects that matter to you; choose the risks that you take wisely and consider what the potential trade-off is for potentially risking everything.

All I said was that your practice of telling girls you meet on vacation that you're a grower and bringing them back to your pot farm a few days later is asking for trouble. Even cool people can go downhill fast, find themselves broke wanting to hit a lick. Anyone can play nice for a week when they wanna cash in. I sprinkled a little bit of general life advice in there as well.

You can do what you do, you can think over everything I said and ask yourself whether it applies to you, whatever. We all know everything, I get it. I put my :2cents: out there and won't say anything else about the subject. You're responsible for making your own decisions just like anyone else. Just remember that sometimes the most helpful warnings are those that are easy to shrug off.
 

orechron

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I would hope there will be more people up there with you this year. Last year or the year before (can't remember which) you got ripped by what you suspect were some kids but never confirmed that. They may have been people associated with a girl that was brought up or someone in the trim crew. Trim crew is necessary, hook ups are not. Furthermore, the hook ups are often temporary and many people don't appreciate being in the temporary category. Hard feelings can easily lead to revenge.

You have a bunch of people on here giving you solid advice with good intention. It is out of the ordinary that you respond to that without getting super defensive so I congratulate you for that. I wouldn't encourage paranoia or the accompanying delusional/irrational thought, but I'd advise to be more cautious.
 

Shcrews

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so funny, some of you guys get so worried when you see a lady in my garden!

im not worried about anyone coming up my hill except the police, and they seem to be ok with me now so...
 

Shcrews

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I would hope there will be more people up there with you this year. Last year or the year before (can't remember which) you got ripped by what you suspect were some kids but never confirmed that. They may have been people associated with a girl that was brought up or someone in the trim crew..
. Was definitely local kids. Stepping up security this year though for sure. And it has nothing to do with how many people are or aren't present at harvest.
 
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Trim crew is necessary, hook ups are not. Furthermore, the hook ups are often temporary and many people don't appreciate being in the temporary category. Hard feelings can easily lead to revenge.

says the guy hooking up with schrews in the temporary category.
 

packerfan79

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I think caterpillar, may be onto something. Lol I know some growers go a little nuts being far out of town. Sometimes you just need a little company.
 

sacramental

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Lol I took a snap of this from one of your posts Shcrews! Hope you don't mind?

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TheOutlawTree

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Security is something I've been thinking about a lot lately. Ive got lots of game cameras set up, but im going to be ordering a bunch of these wireless motion alert transmitters from Dakota. Just google search Dakota MURS BS kit if your interested schrews. I sometimes sleep like a rock so having the 'home base' reciever right next to my bed would wake me up if rippers walked through and set off one of the transmitters.

I think there needs to be a push soon for us medical cannabis farmers to actually be allowed to have firearms at our grow's for once. That law makes no sense to me. A 12 gauge shotgun with rubber rounds would be nice to have around if it were legal.
 

sacramental

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Outlaw tree. So true!!! What if I like to go bird hunting every once in a while. Well pull down my pants and spank my ass right!!! Screw the govt! Screw em!
 

Sluicebox

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Security is something I've been thinking about a lot lately. Ive got lots of game cameras set up, but im going to be ordering a bunch of these wireless motion alert transmitters from Dakota. Just google search Dakota MURS BS kit if your interested schrews. I sometimes sleep like a rock so having the 'home base' reciever right next to my bed would wake me up if rippers walked through and set off one of the transmitters.

I think there needs to be a push soon for us medical cannabis farmers to actually be allowed to have firearms at our grow's for once. That law makes no sense to me. A 12 gauge shotgun with rubber rounds would be nice to have around if it were legal.

I was just looking at those earlier today. I think they were like $450 for 4 zones plus one receiver. I know the transmitters or motion sensors take AA batts, but what does the receiver take? Hoping it is rechargeable. I couldn't find the range of tripping either. Would be real nice it it had a cam on it too. At least one you could take a chip out and check after a trip.
 

FoothillFarming

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Hey screws, didn't mean to throw salt on your game. The lady is lucky to have met you, your a keeper. Just ask Dap:biggrin:



Security is something I've been thinking about a lot lately. Ive got lots of game cameras set up, but im going to be ordering a bunch of these wireless motion alert transmitters from Dakota. Just google search Dakota MURS BS kit if your interested schrews. I sometimes sleep like a rock so having the 'home base' reciever right next to my bed would wake me up if rippers walked through and set off one of the transmitters.

I think there needs to be a push soon for us medical cannabis farmers to actually be allowed to have firearms at our grow's for once. That law makes no sense to me. A 12 gauge shotgun with rubber rounds would be nice to have around if it were legal.

These for the win. Cheap and VERY EFFECTIVE.
http://www.americanspecialtyammo.com/Gadgets.html

I was ripped about 3-4 seasons ago now. Cops came and walked the scene. 12 large plants in a city of over 100k people. I bitched that I didn't feel conferrable giving up my second amendment right just to be able to grow my meds. The cops both looked at each other and said, "Used in self defense is a God given right, I can't take that away."

Not all cops are bad. In fact, if you say things like "yes sir, or no sir" you will be surprised how cool cops can be. I would imagine in the hills things are even more understood.

Those same cops patrolled my back ally for the next two months, every night. Then when I figured out who robbed me, they put them in jail. Case closed. Cops protect what's important. Freedom.
 

orechron

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I think the reality of it is that it's harder getting the girl home for all the guys who are worried about you, than it is for you...

You got me. I come to shcrews' thread for a good fap. Maybe poll all growers and see who thinks its a good idea to bring random women to a grow.

If the rippers that came last year got away with your flower easily or without confrontation at least, I'd say the odds are good that they will at least scope the place out this year. I know this from experience.

Cops protect what's important. Freedom.

Cops exist to oppress freedom. Smoke a joint in public or walk around naked and you'll see what I mean.

In Oregon, you can be fined or jailed for collecting rainwater on your own property, that you bought with the money that the government allowed you to keep from your labor. Who brings you to jail?
 

plantingplants

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Regarding motion sensors, Spypoint makes a $100 game detector. Runs off a 9v and has a 1000 ft range. That's what I'm gonna go with this year. You can add detectors too.

foothillfarming said:
Not all cops are bad. In fact, if you say things like "yes sir, or no sir" you will be surprised how cool cops can be. I would imagine in the hills things are even more understood.

I know right. I started saying ' yes massa' and 'no massa' and massa took a likin' to me and started givin' me his ham scraps.

I don't want to have to pander to the people with guns and hope they treat me ok. I give no authority over my person to anyone but myself.


Tom Robbins knows what's up:

The difference between a criminal and an outlaw is that while criminals frequently are victims, outlaws never are. Indeed, the first step toward becoming a true outlaw is the refusal to be victimized. All people who live subject to other people's laws are victims. People who break laws out of greed, frustration, or vengeance are victims. People who overturn laws in order to replace them with their own laws are victims. ( I am speaking here of revolutionaries.) We outlaws, however, live beyond the law. We don't merely live beyond the letter of the law-many businessmen, most politicians, and all cops do that-we live beyond the spirit of the law. In a sense, then, we live beyond society. Have we a common goal, that goal is to turn the tables on the 'nature' of society. When we succeed, we raise the exhilaration content of the universe. We even raise it a little bit when we fail.

When war turns whole populations into sleepwalkers, outlaws don't join forces with alarm clocks. Outlaws, like poets, rearrange the nightmare.

The trite mythos of the outlaw; the self-conscious romanticism of the outlaw; the black wardrobe of the outlaw; the fey smile of the outlaw; the tequila of the outlaw and the beans of the outlaw; respectable men sneer and say 'outlaw'; young women palpitate and say 'outlaw'. The outlaw boat sails against the flow; outlaws toilet where badgers toilet. All outlaws are photogenic. 'When freedom is outlawed, only outlaws will be free.' There are outlaw maps that lead to outlaw treasures.

Unwilling to wait for mankind to improve, the outlaw lives as if that day were here. Outlaws are can openers in the supermarket of life.
 
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