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MotherLode Gardens 2016
- Thread starter Shcrews
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I feel like the move to get the black market out of CO has begun. Lots of enforcement visits this year in my area. Very polite agents that seem to be more on fact gathering missions than anything else. I know one guy that did not have the paperwork and got a knock. Told them no right now was inconvenient and scheduled a visit for the next week. He ran to Denver and got high plant counts. When they came back they had to see the dates. Asked him a bunch of questions and left.
They are getting their facts lined up. Newspaper articles are starting to show up talking about the black market. The only thing saving CO is that a lot of counties ban not only rec (big grows not your 3 plants) but also mmc stores which leaves a loophole to let guys hold more cards.
The big grows in Denver are getting more serious and have the resources to make things happen. They are finding out that quality and quantity are one in the same. They are also finding out your traditional backyard grower has no clue how to manage a 1/2 ton a month grow. There are no guarantees they want anything to do with outlaw growers no matter how awesome you tell them your grow was
They are getting their facts lined up. Newspaper articles are starting to show up talking about the black market. The only thing saving CO is that a lot of counties ban not only rec (big grows not your 3 plants) but also mmc stores which leaves a loophole to let guys hold more cards.
The big grows in Denver are getting more serious and have the resources to make things happen. They are finding out that quality and quantity are one in the same. They are also finding out your traditional backyard grower has no clue how to manage a 1/2 ton a month grow. There are no guarantees they want anything to do with outlaw growers no matter how awesome you tell them your grow was
jtk707
Member
We will always have a market for high quality ganja . No law will change that . Some people sound more worried about the next harvest and not quality . And I do not think they will reschedule marijuana until they have a big pharma substitute . I can't believe how eager people sound to sign up to government programs . Government and quality are never tied together .
caterpillar710
Member
I happily signed up and paid to be a party of the county program here.
It's costing me even more money in hidden fees though.. they asked for a base flood elevation certificate for my proposed construction project which is resulting in a 12,000 dollar survey that may end up adding six figures to the build cost if it doesn't come back good.
Getting a surveyor and civil engineer is a pain in the ass too.. and to get them to collaborate!! Haha !! Herding cats is easier
It's costing me even more money in hidden fees though.. they asked for a base flood elevation certificate for my proposed construction project which is resulting in a 12,000 dollar survey that may end up adding six figures to the build cost if it doesn't come back good.
Getting a surveyor and civil engineer is a pain in the ass too.. and to get them to collaborate!! Haha !! Herding cats is easier
My guess? Your tune would sound a lot different about now had you sunk most of your resources into that Butte property you mentioned a while back.
caterpillar710
Member
The reason I didn't buy it was because the writing was on the wall for that county to go the way of a serious ban. Just gotta read the cards as best as possible and move in the direction best suited for your life plan... although for all intents and purpose that place was producing a lot of money in olive oil already and I could have just changed industries completely
Screws keeps saying oh well I can only grow 25 plants, if he stacked money paid taxes and got his credit right he could buy property anywhere in Cali and play by whatever rules he chose , but repeating the same thing g and expecting different is the definition of insanity ...
Screws keeps saying oh well I can only grow 25 plants, if he stacked money paid taxes and got his credit right he could buy property anywhere in Cali and play by whatever rules he chose , but repeating the same thing g and expecting different is the definition of insanity ...
^ well said, aspiring growers take note, get that credit right, stack, pay taxes/be safe w/ $, and be flexible year to year if need be until you find a county ready to play ball, and like cat mentioned flexible might be changing to growing tomatoes for a year of something, you want to be a farmer or a grower...
hope schrew planned for this and is ready to buy like he was saying (could be building equity too, if you bought that house 3 years ago instead of renting you'd have another 100k+ in profit..., he should be in a pretty good place finically i would think.. should be close...
alot of cali counties are making it so you have to have a house on the grow site and its not locked up, a certain acreage for larger grows, its definitely a pay-to-play thing here, if you saved your money and stacked each year you could be ready for legalization and the opportunities it might afford...
hope schrew planned for this and is ready to buy like he was saying (could be building equity too, if you bought that house 3 years ago instead of renting you'd have another 100k+ in profit..., he should be in a pretty good place finically i would think.. should be close...
alot of cali counties are making it so you have to have a house on the grow site and its not locked up, a certain acreage for larger grows, its definitely a pay-to-play thing here, if you saved your money and stacked each year you could be ready for legalization and the opportunities it might afford...
any sociologist will tell you that's not true. but im not here to discuss that.
I agree with what youre saying, adapt and improve; grow as much weed as you can! I'm trying to keep my options open, just hoping i have what it takes to compete in this blossoming landscape of massive/corporate grows and hyper-legislation. your advice is always appreciated my friend
Probably right, most sociologist would say that it's not true, but any self-made man or woman who came from a poor and/or deprived background and made far more of themselves than a sociologist would predict will tell you that it is very true.
Cat is just saying that everyone has a chance to make what they can of themselves. Not everyone is going to be president or a billionaire, but in this country anyway, hard work, using your talents to their best effect, and persistence usually result in at least a comfortable and secure life for you and your family and often result in much more.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/...c_n_671253.html?slideshow=true#gallery/9096/0
caterpillar710
Member
any sociologist will tell you that's not true. but im not here to discuss that.
I agree with what youre saying, adapt and improve; grow as much weed as you can! I'm trying to keep my options open, just hoping i have what it takes to compete in this blossoming landscape of massive/corporate grows and hyper-legislation. your advice is always appreciated my friend
Yeah but any one who just studies stuff and doesn't actually have that experience often will speak in absolutes like that... yes it's true that often times because of socioeconomics some kids don't make it out of the ghetto but to say that every one doesn't have the same opportunity to work hard and make something of themselves weather it's at growing writing sports whatever it is... all it takes is effort and tenacity.
I put in bold what your problem is... it's not gonna randomly happen it's not gonna occur from hoping. You need to make conscious moves every day toward what your goals are. If they are to be competitive in this new industry then as I always tell you... go take a long hard look at shit and decide weather you're in it to be a grower or you're in it for the smoke and fun times
caterpillar710
Member
Thanks for highlighting my point
If you build it they will come. If you think it you can make it happen. If you tell yourself you can't you will never do it. Or your Internet buddies will harp on you til you buy a car haha
Are you Fucking kidding me growers could use food stamps? I had a whole paragraph of highly offensive statements. What it comes down to overall is turn that from Palm up to down and grab something and get to work
Are you Fucking kidding me growers could use food stamps? I had a whole paragraph of highly offensive statements. What it comes down to overall is turn that from Palm up to down and grab something and get to work
caterpillar710
Member
That's how we were taught ... if you dream it you can have it if you want it make it happen
hey schrew,
i read about the calavaras emergency ordinance adopted in may of 2016 from the way i read it, it shows only 6 plants per property (for 2 adults with recs), dont see how you got 24 plants out of that? maybe im missing something. just wnted to let you know//
so you might have gone wild west this year without even knowing it lol
i dont live in the area so cant speak to deeply on the ban situation maybe some locals can expand..
Here's the section on some of the requirements...
3 plants per patients, no more than 2 patients per caregiver = < 200 sq/ft.
Quoted from calavaras website:
"M. The following additional requirements apply to the registration of sites for personal or
caregiver cultivation of medical cannabis:
1. All personal or caregiver medical cannabis cultivation sites shall submit a
complete application for medical cannabis cultivation site registration pursuant to
this Chapter by June 30, 2016. Notwithstanding any other provision of this
Chapter, new personal use or caregiver cultivation sites may be established after
this date; however they must apply for registration with the planning department
within seventy-two (72) hours of commencing cultivation.
2. The maximum area of cultivation on the parcel shall be:
a. For a personal cultivation registration, one hundred (100) square feet of
total canopy size.
b. For a caregiver cultivation registration, one hundred (100) square feet of
total canopy size per patient, for a maximum of two patients.
c. Under no circumstances shall any non-commercial medical cannabis
cultivation site contain more than two hundred (200) square feet of total
canopy size.
3. Personal use or caregiver cultivation may only occur on property owned or
leased by the caregiver or authorized patient for whom the medical cannabis is
cultivated.
4. Registrants shall demonstrate that there is a lawful permanent dwelling, or
temporary dwelling as provided in Chapter 17.93 for Butte Fire victims, on the
cultivation site, or on an adjacent parcel under common ownership, and that this
dwelling is inhabited on a permanent basis by the caregiver or patient.
5. The cultivation area must be set back at least thirty (30) feet from the property
line.
6. Access to the cultivation area shall be controlled to reasonably prevent against
access by trespassers."
i read about the calavaras emergency ordinance adopted in may of 2016 from the way i read it, it shows only 6 plants per property (for 2 adults with recs), dont see how you got 24 plants out of that? maybe im missing something. just wnted to let you know//
so you might have gone wild west this year without even knowing it lol
i dont live in the area so cant speak to deeply on the ban situation maybe some locals can expand..
Here's the section on some of the requirements...
3 plants per patients, no more than 2 patients per caregiver = < 200 sq/ft.
Quoted from calavaras website:
"M. The following additional requirements apply to the registration of sites for personal or
caregiver cultivation of medical cannabis:
1. All personal or caregiver medical cannabis cultivation sites shall submit a
complete application for medical cannabis cultivation site registration pursuant to
this Chapter by June 30, 2016. Notwithstanding any other provision of this
Chapter, new personal use or caregiver cultivation sites may be established after
this date; however they must apply for registration with the planning department
within seventy-two (72) hours of commencing cultivation.
2. The maximum area of cultivation on the parcel shall be:
a. For a personal cultivation registration, one hundred (100) square feet of
total canopy size.
b. For a caregiver cultivation registration, one hundred (100) square feet of
total canopy size per patient, for a maximum of two patients.
c. Under no circumstances shall any non-commercial medical cannabis
cultivation site contain more than two hundred (200) square feet of total
canopy size.
3. Personal use or caregiver cultivation may only occur on property owned or
leased by the caregiver or authorized patient for whom the medical cannabis is
cultivated.
4. Registrants shall demonstrate that there is a lawful permanent dwelling, or
temporary dwelling as provided in Chapter 17.93 for Butte Fire victims, on the
cultivation site, or on an adjacent parcel under common ownership, and that this
dwelling is inhabited on a permanent basis by the caregiver or patient.
5. The cultivation area must be set back at least thirty (30) feet from the property
line.
6. Access to the cultivation area shall be controlled to reasonably prevent against
access by trespassers."
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plantingplants
Active member
I don't think he's in calaveras... but if he is, with 24 plants he's not goin wild west there-- from my friend's 99 I can see at least five other gardens, some with hundreds of plants.
Rolling Stoner
Member
Pretty sure Shcrews is in Mariposa county.
If you do a few quick searches you will see that 24 plants in Calaveras is nowhere near wild west...That county has completely blown up. Kidnappings, huge processing sites at the airport lol, Asian gangs, Many thousands of plants on site...A lot will come down to the vote on measure D from what I hear.
If you do a few quick searches you will see that 24 plants in Calaveras is nowhere near wild west...That county has completely blown up. Kidnappings, huge processing sites at the airport lol, Asian gangs, Many thousands of plants on site...A lot will come down to the vote on measure D from what I hear.
Rolling Stoner
Member
Unfortunately I am faced with the prospect of Placer County banning grows all together on Tuesday. After saying they were going to regulate and issue permits back in January they did a 180 in June.
Now I am sitting on piece of property that I can't grow on in an area I really love. That means uprooting my life here. My wife has a great job. We have friends. But Im ready to sell if it happens. Been getting the house fixed up as the trimmers are working...
Anyone with suggestions? Been thinking Nevada County or El Dorado County but It's a total crap shoot on what they will do. Part of me wants to wait and see how things shake out before risking buying again but the other part knows that I am already missing the train when other counties are already issuing permits...
Now I am sitting on piece of property that I can't grow on in an area I really love. That means uprooting my life here. My wife has a great job. We have friends. But Im ready to sell if it happens. Been getting the house fixed up as the trimmers are working...
Anyone with suggestions? Been thinking Nevada County or El Dorado County but It's a total crap shoot on what they will do. Part of me wants to wait and see how things shake out before risking buying again but the other part knows that I am already missing the train when other counties are already issuing permits...
