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Motherlode Gardens 2014

epicorchard

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You need to get some close ups on your fat colas in the foreground, and then have those rocking sunsets in the background. Make for some exceptional photography.
 

Yes4Prop215

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I remember seeing some testing either here or on the farm showing tests from a plant treated with e20 in veg showed up with o ppm or ppb can't remember which threshold they used. Same plant showed I believe avid still in the plant from veg.

back in the day i had some animal cookies tested that i sprayed avid in veg and yes it still showed up positive...so thats why now i try to never spray the shit. really if theres an infestation just toss all the plants out.

thats interesting that it showed 0ppm for E20.
 

theother

Member
back in the day i had some animal cookies tested that i sprayed avid in veg and yes it still showed up positive...so thats why now i try to never spray the shit. really if theres an infestation just toss all the plants out.

thats interesting that it showed 0ppm for E20.

Ya I definitely remember it, I wanna try and find it now to verify. I remember it being something that sounded legit (fwiw). I agree on the intense systemics, but I don't do outdoor so I don't judge. What would avid protect against for a full season that would be a problem in a healthy garden? Is full season the same deal where a healthy plant for the most part will fight stuff off?
 

epicorchard

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Ya I definitely remember it, I wanna try and find it now to verify. I remember it being something that sounded legit (fwiw). I agree on the intense systemics, but I don't do outdoor so I don't judge. What would avid protect against for a full season that would be a problem in a healthy garden? Is full season the same deal where a healthy plant for the most part will fight stuff off?

You're going to get a mixed reaction on that question. I think even a healthy plant will fall victim to cats, mites, and others even if its healthy. It will however be better able to withstand different insect threats than if it were already off balance.

I'm kicking myself for not spraying bt and spinosad as a preventative around the onset of flower and than a couple weeks later. The best gardners learn from their previous mistakes as well as the mistakes of others.

I would be very surprised if the resulting harvest from a clone or mother plant that has been treated with avid in april, would then test positive in october 7 months down the line.
 

Yes4Prop215

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i think in general avid should just be avoided, it seems to stay in plant system much longer.

when my partner found hemp russet on a plant this year, instead of spraying avid we just chopped that whole plant down and burned it. so mendo420s whole attack on me saying greed motivates me just pissed me off...because 90% of norcal farmers would have doused that plant in avid and still taken that shit to market. we probably lost at least 3-4 lbs of bud from burning that plant but fuck it...

hemp russet is literally everywhere up here too....i think they are spread via flies and other flying insects. both neighbors at both properties are total novice idiot growers with infested crops and i think the mites are coming in on flying insects.

for organic options we have been using "organicide" on any plants with signs of PM, mites, etc and its working pretty good. still, id rather not even spray organics. its better to lose parts of the plant than to spray everything else with shit.....at least the uninfected stuff will be clean smoke.
 

theother

Member
i think in general avid should just be avoided, it seems to stay in plant system much longer.

when my partner found hemp russet on a plant this year, instead of spraying avid we just chopped that whole plant down and burned it. so mendo420s whole attack on me saying greed motivates me just pissed me off...because 90% of norcal farmers would have doused that plant in avid and still taken that shit to market. we probably lost at least 3-4 lbs of bud from burning that plant but fuck it...

hemp russet is literally everywhere up here too....i think they are spread via flies and other flying insects. both neighbors at both properties are total novice idiot growers with infested crops and i think the mites are coming in on flying insects.

for organic options we have been using "organicide" on any plants with signs of PM, mites, etc and its working pretty good. still, id rather not even spray organics. its better to lose parts of the plant than to spray everything else with shit.....at least the uninfected stuff will be clean smoke.
Props for the avid hate. Sungrown will come a long long way when more people aren't using those gangster systemic pesticides in july. I also applaud the sacrifice of part of your crop to avoid the issue.

Truth be told though, I know better than to judge, if your using those systemics, my statement here is in no way an attack on you personally, I know exactly how much work goes into a garden and there is no way I'm gonna sit here and judge anyone. I would smoke a lot more outs though if I could be relatively sure they where free of it.
 

theother

Member
You're going to get a mixed reaction on that question. I think even a healthy plant will fall victim to cats, mites, and others even if its healthy. It will however be better able to withstand different insect threats than if it were already off balance.

I'm kicking myself for not spraying bt and spinosad as a preventative around the onset of flower and than a couple weeks later. The best gardners learn from their previous mistakes as well as the mistakes of others.

I would be very surprised if the resulting harvest from a clone or mother plant that has been treated with avid in april, would then test positive in october 7 months down the line.

From my limited outdoor experience it seems like nature is gonna get her pound of flesh one way or another, but I have seen plenty come down nice with just bt and spinosadright when the moths show up.

Do you guys use much pyrethrums? I have had my best luck alternating spino and pyrethrums. Always less of the pyrethrums though because they seem to leave a residue on the veg that slows them down. I don't exactly spray the stuff for fun the way I do spino but I do hit the veg a couple times and that stuff seems to stick around for a minute. All I am ever fighting is thrips that live in the grass around here. It's super easy to knock them down but they are pretty insesent about coming back.
 

OvergrowDaWorld

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I didnt even know about moths and cats that bore a hole into the stem and eat their way up the branch intil a week ago. We didnt get hit really bad, but bad enough to learn a good leason. Next year we will be prepared for them at the right time.
I so appreciate this community of growers with such rich experience and knowledge.
 

Backyard Farmer

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Pyrethrin products usually have petroleum distillates added.

Nematodes work well to control thrips ticks fleas etc on a large scale if you're at the same property over multiple seasons. Nemattack SF Is what I use
 

Shcrews

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Ancient OG (Bodhi)

Ancient OG (Bodhi)

this is what happens when a 12-foot plant doesn't get it's last layer of netting. Basically rocking the early 1990's flat-top fade

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Shcrews

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WiFi#3 x Snow Lotus (Bodhi)

WiFi#3 x Snow Lotus (Bodhi)

seriously interesting genetics at work here.

Pheno #1 (tree survivor): this one is a frost monster, sweet creamy smell with some kush in there. was growing like a xmas tree until it got crushed by a jealous pine tree.

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pheno #2 (mutant pheno): not as tall as the others but the buds are twice as big. Has pretty pink hairs and this really cool mutant trait where it throws some 3-headed colas like this:

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