Back to the Chem Dawg. Well sorta. I just spoted a conversation with Nevil where he say "Either Sensi directors authorised the release of the plant produced from a mating I had made prior to ending up in jail in 1990, or a person in a position of trust made private arrangements. The mating was NL5xHzC X SK1xHzC.
Sensi won a cup with this cutting. It was called "Jack Herer". The J.H. line of seeds had this plant as a mother.
Green House also won with this plant at the Cups. It was called Super Silver Haze. As GH never had this cutting, who knows what they are calling SSH.
In the '90s, a variety known as Diesel was making a name for itself. When I smoked it I knew instantly that this was exactly the same plant and they had a cutting. The early Diesel line of seeds would also have used this plant as a mother.
All 3 lines were made with different fathers at least and this was 20 years ago. One would assume that successive generations would all go in their own unique directions, presumably giving rise to any distinct differences today. The names have remained the same and all 3 lines gained their credibility from the exceptional qualities of the original cutting NL5HzC x SK1HzC."
He later says, " inbreeding Haze especially to the same Haze ancestor leads to a greater incidence of the cat piss pheno. The Diesel or fuel like smells are an intermediate stage. NH also has more fuel type offspring than the 5Hz, but not as many as a plant inbred to HzC. NL5HzA had darker flavours than NL5HzC, but I wouldn't call it diesel."
The thread goes on to include a bunch of debate about what diesel strain he is referring to and he replies, "The owner of a seed co. in Amsterdam in the '90s was the first person I knew of who was using the name Diesel and THAT plant was NL5HzCxSK1HzC. What people have been calling Diesel since then, I don't know anything about. If you want to know who that was, do your homework."
"What people have been calling Diesel since then" I think he means the dutch Diesel is not related to the Diesel (aka headband = ChemD x MassSSK/NL) we know of.
IDK what it all means but somehow I think its relevant. Its confusing also. How did the fuel smell from "haze inbreeding" make its way into the indica dominant chem dawg? Might the chem dawg be a indica phenotype from a SSH x G-13/NL (or G-13/SK).
I know the vast majority of diversity hidden with a hybrid arrives in the F2 due to recombination of recessive traits. The NL and SK in the SSH may have been the source of this recombination. Its all so speculative its silly but its also kinda fun. Years ago I read a article written by Shanti about strain theft, modern strains, strain remakes and something he said led me to believe he recognized one of California's most famous strains.
Sensi won a cup with this cutting. It was called "Jack Herer". The J.H. line of seeds had this plant as a mother.
Green House also won with this plant at the Cups. It was called Super Silver Haze. As GH never had this cutting, who knows what they are calling SSH.
In the '90s, a variety known as Diesel was making a name for itself. When I smoked it I knew instantly that this was exactly the same plant and they had a cutting. The early Diesel line of seeds would also have used this plant as a mother.
All 3 lines were made with different fathers at least and this was 20 years ago. One would assume that successive generations would all go in their own unique directions, presumably giving rise to any distinct differences today. The names have remained the same and all 3 lines gained their credibility from the exceptional qualities of the original cutting NL5HzC x SK1HzC."
He later says, " inbreeding Haze especially to the same Haze ancestor leads to a greater incidence of the cat piss pheno. The Diesel or fuel like smells are an intermediate stage. NH also has more fuel type offspring than the 5Hz, but not as many as a plant inbred to HzC. NL5HzA had darker flavours than NL5HzC, but I wouldn't call it diesel."
The thread goes on to include a bunch of debate about what diesel strain he is referring to and he replies, "The owner of a seed co. in Amsterdam in the '90s was the first person I knew of who was using the name Diesel and THAT plant was NL5HzCxSK1HzC. What people have been calling Diesel since then, I don't know anything about. If you want to know who that was, do your homework."
"What people have been calling Diesel since then" I think he means the dutch Diesel is not related to the Diesel (aka headband = ChemD x MassSSK/NL) we know of.
IDK what it all means but somehow I think its relevant. Its confusing also. How did the fuel smell from "haze inbreeding" make its way into the indica dominant chem dawg? Might the chem dawg be a indica phenotype from a SSH x G-13/NL (or G-13/SK).
I know the vast majority of diversity hidden with a hybrid arrives in the F2 due to recombination of recessive traits. The NL and SK in the SSH may have been the source of this recombination. Its all so speculative its silly but its also kinda fun. Years ago I read a article written by Shanti about strain theft, modern strains, strain remakes and something he said led me to believe he recognized one of California's most famous strains.
