Most potent strains

[bioguy]

...not sold for profit!!

Very cool. That makes a lot more sense. Props! Does he sell it?

I'd like to reiterate "I'm not saying thats what happened in this case".

I'm sensitive to this subject so kinda went off...not on him/you/anyone ... just in general. My sensitivity comes from the fact that I am an evolutionary biologist and far too aware of how fast varieties are vanishing. NOT just marijuana, we have lost 1000's of varieties from corn, tomatoes etc...without the help of prohibition. Cannabis is even harder to keep because our strains are virtually never true breeding varieties.

I also fear the "New Big Tobacco" is on our doorstep. Big ag destroyed the diversity of every crop it ever touched. No reason Cannabis will not suffer the same fate if we are not proactive. I think every serious grower should have a genetic stockpile... just in case. We need all the cooperation we can get.

 

[Kripi]

Mazar and the godfather

 

[Discorilla]

I must ask how finding a pheno and keeping it, could be considered hoarding it?

What is a person's problem with spending money on their own seeds, and finding their own keeper phenos? If I spent $500 on seeds for pheno hunting (which I've spent more than that), that means that other people could do the same. In fact, that's what most serious growers do. They don't rely on clones at all, because a lot of people do not know how to care for them before giving to their patients/friends.

The idea of finding the most potent strain, is relative to anyone, because ANYONE can find something they are looking for. It doesn't have to be a named cut from *Enter famous name here*, because it's all in the seed genetics that you can find. Who cares if they are making money off it? You are too, once you harvest!

If you want to talk about the most potent tested Sativa, then Moonshine's Ghost Train Haze #1 is the most potent. YOU CAN BUY THIS LINE OF SEEDS! I bought mine from the guys themselves at the cup.

I suppose if my run of this produces something desirable, I'm going to have to share that?

Sorry sucka! You can buy the seeds just like I did. Rant over.

 

[Elmer Bud]

G`day Discorilla

If you want to talk about the most potent tested Sativa, then Moonshine's Ghost Train Haze #1 is the most potent. YOU CAN BUY THIS LINE OF SEEDS! I bought mine from the guys themselves at the cup.

So that one sample hit high numbers . Now its the worlds most potent Sativa .
Only in America ...


Thanks for sharin

EB .

 

[Discorilla]

G`day Discorilla
So that one sample hit high numbers . Now its the worlds most potent Sativa .
Only in America ...

Thanks for sharin

EB .

Did you not notice the TESTED part in my above quote? I said IF we are going by that.

I find it quite amusing, that you try to throw some petty/snarky "Only in America.." comment. It shows how uneducated some of you "stoners" are. Half the time, I believe I'm really living in a world full of trolls... :facepalm:

Only in some far nether-regions of space, do test results not matter, when it is clearly stated in the same statement that going off test results was what that assumption was based off of. I thought I was making myself clear in that last statement.

Go away troll. You're probably one of those people who deserve every cut for the preservation of the species, right?

 

[Tonygreen]

I heard it tested at 24% *yawn*

 

[Discorilla]

Taken from https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=253452

Kyle Kushman tweeted this last night. Ghost Train #1 tested in at 29%thc and over 30% total. Still waiting on the copy of the lab results. I guess they tested it 3 times cause it was coming back so high.

Validation of the title "Strongest Strain on Earth" by someone cracking a pack of seeds. Just Happened to be Kyle Kushman and grown in Veganics...

Oh yeah... you're the troll who commented in that thread, Tonygreen. You seem to be such a valuable member to the ICMag community. *Seriously hoping the sarcasm is detected here*

Let's see what picture you have to show us, that you have grown and is more potent than say 25% THC. Can you? Could you even post one over 15?

Here's my Jack the Ripper Pheno, because it's the only weed other than GTH #1, that has given me that high of a "Sativa Soar":

 

[Elmer Bud]

G`day Discorilla

Apology for my misunderstanding .
I don`t give those numbers much weight in that high % does not automatically = great high .

I live in a place far from where those test figures come from .
Also far enough that elite clones don`t travel here . And lab testing is not available .

So the only gauge of potency is ,how it makes me and the folks who consume my herb feel .
I have been smoking ganja for 30 + years . Growing / brokering / and breeding for 25 of them .
I have access to the same genetics in seed form as any other . For me the proof of the pudding is in the eating .
Now since those numbers come from HTCC I take them with a grain of salt . And as the USA is the home of hype I say only in America ...

Till its grown / harvested / cured / sampled its number is zero .

Thanks for sharin

EB .

 

[Tonygreen]

Im a troll cuz I heard it didn't really test that high? *yawn*
I'm not sure what I have grown has to do with not jumping on a bandwagon of exaggerated hyped test results...
You are trying to act like 20% is the end all.... lol. Plenty of stuff tests over 20 my man...
I can get better than 15 off any random sour bubble mom in any random pack, you must be elite to be one of the only people to get 20% genetics....

 

[Discorilla]

Everyone is entitled to their own experiences and as discussed earlier potency can be considered relative. I myself am growing the GTH #1 to test that out. I was pointing out that the elite genetics are in seed form, and easy to find if you search for them, so what is wrong with doing the work? Is it laziness, lack of money, what? I've found that S1s can be more potent than the original legendary clones. I've seen S1 phenos of Purple Kush that kill the original one.

 

[Discorilla]

Im a troll cuz I heard it didn't really test that high? *yawn*
I'm not sure what I have grown has to do with not jumping on a bandwagon of exaggerated hyped test results...
You are trying to act like 20% is the end all.... lol. Plenty of stuff tests over 20 my man...
I can get better than 15 off any random sour bubble mom in any random pack, you must be elite to be one of the only people to get 20% genetics....

I've seen your pictures, so I wanted to see what you had that you could contribute to the convo, other than trolling. You've seemed to make the point that I was trying to above, though... FINALLY! You can get awesome genetics from packs of seeds! You don't need anyone's clones to find what YOU want!

Buying a pack of seeds doesn't make me elite at all... but "I'm just an elitist if I wanted to spend my money, and not share the fruits of my labor." AKA clones *More sarcasm here*

 

[symbiote420]

My buddy just won two local Cups with The GTH #1, it tested @ 24.19 total and @ 23.7 delta9!!! Took twelve weeks and he says he didn't even pay attention to it like he should have. It burned pretty good but to me it's not better than the pre95 Sensi Star cut I have that never tested higher than 16%, the theme ....different smokes for different folks!!!

 

[Yo Sammy]

NL#5xHzA aka A5Hz is the most potent strain ever encountered in my part of the world.....
Nothing comes even remotely close.
Cheers,
Sammy

 

[bioguy]

rip

 

[bioguy]

I must ask how finding a pheno and keeping it, could be considered hoarding it?

Hoard: a stock or store of money or valued objects, typically one that is secret or carefully guarded.

If I spent $500 on seeds for pheno hunting (which I've spent more than that), that means that other people could do the same.

And then you could benefit from each other. Its call team work or being part of a society

In fact, that's what most serious growers do. They don't rely on clones at all

I will ask the crowd: how many of you have never gotten a strain as a cutting?

Sorry sucka! You can buy the seeds just like I did. Rant over.

Been there done that. Doing it again now. Will do it again after that. But all my best strains were cuts.

When the seeds sell out and your mom dies we will see who the sucker is.

I sourced my cuts from coast to coast and from seed. I shared them all freely. If I loose one, I get it back the same day from my friends.

 

[Discorilla]

Hoard: a stock or store of money or
valued objects, typically one that is secret or carefully guarded.
blah blah blah blah.

That's why you keep a Male and make F2s. Herp Derp. Or you use some CS and make some S1s!!!! Then you have fem beans! Then your seeds never run out. What a concept!

 

[symbiote420]

Here's the Stardawg (true grit's cut) x Alien Kush F3 aka Straydawg male my li'l bro cannarado created the cross and I found this killer stud ....too bad I lost him, but atleast I made a few hybrids before that!!


He had the double serrated leaves and hollow stems we spoke of earlier in this thread, the Sensi Star mom I mentioned a few post up only hits 16% thc but my homie just got the results back from the lab on my Street Star that came in at over 19% ...so the male definitely boosted the thc content of the mom, the other hybrid that has been grown was in an outdoor patch (Zero Dark Thirty (LA) x Straydawg, wasn't tested but it was more potent than my ZDT (LA Con x Purple Kush) fo sho ....nugs looked like indo and they were so resiny!!

Smoking some Chem D my homie grew today, now this is some potent meds!!!

 

[siftedunity]

Did you not notice the TESTED part in my above quote? I said IF we are going by that.

I find it quite amusing, that you try to throw some petty/snarky "Only in America.." comment. It shows how uneducated some of you "stoners" are. Half the time, I believe I'm really living in a world full of trolls... :facepalm:

Only in some far nether-regions of space, do test results not matter, when it is clearly stated in the same statement that going off test results was what that assumption was based off of. I thought I was making myself clear in that last statement.

Go away troll. You're probably one of those people who deserve every cut for the preservation of the species, right?

seems like you just came on the thread to throw some weight around. all of this quite ironic since you have posted in the gg4 thread numerous times posing for a cut.

no one debates that you can find gems in seeds. clones are obviously much more convenient. for example I like bbg but good luck finding one in seed form that lives up to expectations! in that case a clone which already fits the criteria is a better bet.

there is also nothing wrong with keeping your cuts to yourself but then if everyone did that you wouldn't ever try the gg4 either nor would many breeders who you buy seeds from have genetics to work with in the first place! so there is a lot to be said for spreading the goodness...
But some people share, some don't. its no biggie. its not a crime. your just one of those people who don't wanna share what they have. but you cant expect people to agree when they feel like spreading good genetics is a positive thing.

 

[Discorilla]

seems like you just came on the thread to throw some weight around. all of this quite ironic since you have posted in the gg4 thread numerous times posing for a cut.

no one debates that you can find gems in seeds. clones are obviously much more convenient. for example I like bbg but good luck finding one in seed form that lives up to expectations! in that case a clone which already fits the criteria is a better bet.

there is also nothing wrong with keeping your cuts to yourself but then if everyone did that you wouldn't ever try the gg4 either nor would many breeders who you buy seeds from have genetics to work with in the first place! so there is a lot to be said for spreading the goodness...
But some people share, some don't. its no biggie. its not a crime. your just one of those people who don't wanna share what they have. but you cant expect people to agree when they feel like spreading good genetics is a positive thing.

I haven't asked for a cut in that thread once, but thanks for playing. Saying I'd love to grow it, is different than saying I deserve that cut and accusing them of hoarding it.

Also, none of my personal friends grow for anything but profit. Why would I let them sell the same thing I provide to dispensaries?

 

[siftedunity]

I haven't asked for a cut in that thread once, but thanks for playing. Saying I'd love to grow it, is different than saying I deserve that cut and accusing them of hoarding it.

well asking for a cut would be against the TOU as you know.. but you ''hinted'' more than once.. not that its any of my concern.. I just noticed was all.

no one here said they deserved a cut.
there wasn't accusations, its pointing out fact. if you keep something you hoard, you might not like the implications of the word but keeping for yourself and hoarding mean the same thing.
I don't get the whole ''thanks for playing'' im just commenting on what I see.

if you sell for profit(that's prob more than 50% here) then your gonna wanna keep the special shit to make a living. that's good business and nothing wrong with that. but obtaining fantastic cuts can be a big part of that even if you are making more $ because of the hype aspect..