Most potent strains

[bioguy]

Why is there a fight in every thread ever started?

If its not about who invented it, its who stole it, who ruined it, who sold something that was not it.

If we love the plant we would only care about who gave it to a friend in need.

 

[JetLife175]

hempy... hahahahaha.

 

[symbiote420]

you are lying about ndnguys seeds.
now you talk about karma.
did you personally give ndnguy his g13/hp?
no you did not.
ndnguy said they were never in nevils possesion.
now youre saying he is a liar.
you are making up your own history about someones gift to you.
your lies disgust me.
bigherb, your post of c/p quotes only supports what i am saying.
read it again if you think i am mistaken.
i am baffled by your conclusion that it says otherwise.
symbiote420, you are lying about the pre88.

New year, same ole PWF tsk, tsk, tsk .....I really feel sorry for you bro so I will refrain from calling you names back! All you have to do is a little bit of searching yourself, you obviously have internet access!

Ndnguy gave me the beans personally! Do you even know him? I'll be sending him an email today so he can come respond in this thread .....if you're so much of his buddy what's his screen name(s) here? PM me the answers! I know B too, he'll definitely be getting an email!!

 

[Cannavore]

Lol

 

[Tonygreen]

Im telling my mommy!

 

[siftedunity]

this page is a perfect example of why classification of cannabis is gonna be hard work.

 

[Raco]

F2 of WLD x NLD

Tom´s Haze cut (left) and DC x Haze F2 from seed (very potent)

 

[Blue Socks]

Cannabis: Evolution and Ethnobotany: By Robert Clarke, Mark Merlin is an excellent review of work conducted by many researchers. It explains the situation in far more depth than most of us care for.

Long story short. A million years history in a paragraph:
- The initial ancestors are from Northern Asia (PA Putative Ancestor)
- The population diverged into 2 lines PHA & PDA (Putative Drug/Hemp Ancestor)
- PA is almost certainly extinct (evolved into PDA PHA) and may have been Cannabis R.
- The PHA went on to become hemp aka Sativa
- The PDA went on to become drug varieties aka Indica
- The drug varieties emerged in China, north of Yunnan and east of the Himalayas.
These would become the NLD Indica (Named after India where they were found)
- The NLD spread west to India
- The NLD that went all the way to Afghanistan became BLD (Broad leaf drug aka C Indica Afghanica) maybe with the help of hemp but probably with the help of man's desire for hash
- The PDA line also had a separate hemp line emerge (evidence good herb can devolve)
- When the NLD strain tried to spread south, the spread was stalled because temperate plants don't care for the tropical photo period. They made it eventually but it caused a restricted gene pool....The SE Asian strains.
- NLD from all over are responsible for South and East African and all American landraces.

It seems to me if the Afghan Strains deserve the Afghanicathen the SE Asian deserve recognition as well. Both are distinct lines caused by restricted pools derived from NLD.

Would like to personally thank you for breaking it down into layman's terms. I tried reading the academic text that was posted earlier and I could only make it about a paragraph in. Not that I couldn't understand it, it's just so damn dry and boring I can't take it.

So thanks for doing this I "get" all this new NLD BLD lingo now

 

[Raco]

NLD

Haze



Colombian



WLD

Hindu Death Cabbage LOL



X18 Pakistani indoors

 

[bigherb]

ndnguy never told you that.
had a good laff about this "elder" thing youre going on about tho. ndnguy is an elder. if you can make a mistake about that then it is possible youre mistaken about other things. btw, ndnguy doesnt "flip out" about stuff. he is frustrated that these allegations keep popping up. he never told anyone he bought those. you have twisted his words to suit yourself then you come on here saying a man with integrity such as ndnguy has relinquished his integrity over the lineage of some potseeds that he isnt even selling but rather gives them all away. you are calling him a liar and fully misrepresenting his years long work.
i never once called myself an elder. lol
bigherb,
it is sad to see so many still hanging on the words of a known liar such as nevil. i was present at mns when he made his reappearance and i watched him lie and make mistakes recalling histories of stuff to the point he was run off the boards over there by shanti himself. that doesnt change the fact that you both are trying to take a part of history and lay it over a time frame that occured prior. i dont doubt nevil was honest in his breeding as i know he was implored by his benefactors to keep lineages straight and for once he was getting something that wasnt just from some hash-brick seed from a hashmaking region. fwiw, he wasnt even listing mothers/fathers in the scientificly accepted order of female first then male. im positive you both are better breeders than nevil was when he acquired his american sourced genetics.
this thread is about potent variety and their lineages. i believe falsifying lineages is a pretty bad thing or i wouldnt waste my time here.
symbiote420, for whatever reason, your story is not true.

you are lying about ndnguys seeds.
now you talk about karma.
did you personally give ndnguy his g13/hp?
no you did not.
ndnguy said they were never in nevils possesion.
now youre saying he is a liar.
you are making up your own history about someones gift to you.
your lies disgust me.
bigherb, your post of c/p quotes only supports what i am saying.
read it again if you think i am mistaken.
i am baffled by your conclusion that it says otherwise.
symbiote420, you are lying about the pre88.

Maybe a waste of space but this is to show you are a Liar an no one should listen to you .Words from the Man himself an to show your true color you even posted in that exact thread i quote the post from .Link attached

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=2368038&postcount=21

Some grower ndnguy and swampy did breed it .swampy is a bro from many years back,we used my G13/Hp and swampys BSH. The deisel one you have looks stunning and bet ya have a keeper for sure. The G13/Hp used in the original cross was sourced from 1987-88 seeds from the seedbank when Neville crossed the clone before it died. swampy breed his line on and named it free leanord to help a wonderfull man who is spending the rest of his life in jail,30 or 31 years now. I kept my line and continued it as just g13/Bsh. The thread said G13/BSH and I didn't know it was Heads G13/Deisel cross I am sorry for messin up your thread brother,looks like you have a great plant goin on, will check this throuh out and enjoy your grow...ndnguy

1luvbigherb

 

[bigherb]

Raco

Always a pleasure to see all of your pics ,From the sexy Ass uncommon sativas the NLD the BLD and Especially the rare Few with a Description/smoke report

Interesting to see the Haze hybrid taller/more vigorous that the st8 Haze .As Sams says she really shines in hybrids .Ive seen some beauties monster type DCxTHH if i recall in LPOD thread

Curious were they both started at the same time ?

Thanks for sharing

1luvbigherb

 

[Elmer Bud]

G`day Biggie

Now we need the quote from Nevil where he explains the Indica breeding proj .
I recall him saying NL#5 , G13 and Hash plant were all clones . NL#1 was the key .It was a male .
He crossed NL#5 with NL#1 for his NL#5 line . Hash Plant and NL#1 were mated and a male of that cross pollinated the G13 to make G13 HP 1 AKA G13 x HP / NL#1 .
So the person saying no NL in that G13 HP is wide of the mark .


Thanks for sharin

EB .

 

[bigherb]

G`day Biggie

Now we need the quote from Nevil where he explains the Indica breeding proj .
I recall him saying NL#5 , G13 and Hash plant were all clones . NL#1 was the key .It was a male .
He crossed NL#5 with NL#1 for his NL#5 line . Hash Plant and NL#1 were mated and a male of that cross pollinated the G13 to make G13 HP 1 AKA G13 x HP / NL#1 .
So the person saying no NL in that G13 HP is wide of the mark .


Thanks for sharin

EB .

Sup brother

Which one you want Choose Lol ,another joker we have

Originally Posted by Nevil
I think that I have mentioned this before, G13 and Hash Plant were cuttings. I crossed HP to NL1, which was the strongest indica I've ener smoked and I put males from this to G13.
It was labeled HP1.G13. People have assumed that this was a straight HPxG13 cross, but this was not the case. Their was NO sativa in this hybrid which was sent far and wide.
If you were looking for pure indica, this was the one. If a good breeder kept this pure he should have been able to pull most indica types out of this. That was my intention.
N.

When I first got the NL varieties, there were 8 types, 1-8.
They came with descriptions, which I published in my catalogue. These descriptions may not correlate with what later developed. The original intention was to purchase seeds from the US NL growers. It didn't work out and supply dried up. I kept the lines separate and inbred them. NL1 and NL2 stabilised into distinct types and NL5 only produced one unique individual.
NL1 was a full blood Afghan indica. One thick main stem, dark green leaves, modest yield with nuggety buds, a little coarse with good resin production, which when ripe went golden. The high was narcotic. The seeds ranged from tiny to massive. I used to love the big ones. Large fat heavily and darkly mottled seeds. Selecting for these seeds made this Afghan even coarser. It was fun to show people these seeds.
The best line of NL1 actually came from the smaller seeded types, better high and bud structure.
There weren't many pure indica lines around in those days. Big Bud, Hash Plant and G13 were pure indicas in my estimation, but were cuttings. [B]NL1 was the only good pure Afghani male line I had[/B].( there was Sams Afghani#1, but that was toxic in a bad way) The NL2 was a Kush.
I put the NL1 out there as a pure strain. I wasn't popular. People would tell me, "give me the pure strains", but if it cost them 10% of their yield they would complain, well try 50%.
The pure indica hybrids were more popular. NL1 x HP and NL1 x G13 were the best. At least people could use the word pure (very popular). But they were good!

I expect that a lot of people holding what they believe to be pure indicas today, would find, if the truth be known, that the sire line traces back to NL1.
N.

Hash plant X NL1 was one of the strongest indica's I have smoked. That crossed real well with G13.
N.

I might have more think i should look for them

Im shootin for another negative Rep

1luvbigherb

 

[Raco]

DC x Haze -F3 male...look at the serration of the upper fan leaves...If I say it´s pure DC many folks would believe me...lol

 

[Elmer Bud]

G`day Biggie

Loool ...
Well done . Those are exactly the quotes I had in mind .
He might have caused a ruckus over at MNS, but he did drop a lotta inside knowledge at the same time .

Mota seems like a pretty straight shooter when it comes to lineage . When I saw Bubba Kush x G13 HP1 I thought I hope there`s a nice male in the pack . he he .

Thanks for sharin

EB .

 

[symbiote420]

I've read somewhere that plants with double serrated leaf blades are more potent than their sibs! Found a male with that in my homie's Straydawg cross (Stardawg x Alien Kush f3) that I've breed with, and from the three crosses me and my pals all grew out it seems the progeny it was passed to were also the keepers! I see in Raco's pics the Colombian and Haze both have it, I wonder if anyone else is noticing a higher potency from plants with double serrated blades?

This needs to be squashed @PWF, I've been called worse than a liar bro ....I'm a black man and even that "word" has no power over me! It's a shame things couldn't be resolved without the name calling but you do see what can be found with a li'l research! I'm not giving anymore energy to this matter either, thanks bigherb for the copy&paste I'm comp literate bro and I might have to ask my 10 yr old son how to do it lol, he's pretty good with comps!

 

[bigherb]

EB

I agree , I'm most thankful for all he shared . I just wish things would have ended different

I'm happy now to think about askin 101 questions , he had patients at one point . I also think he enjoyed reminiscing a good story . I always appreciated his indepth detail

Sym420

I'm the worst wit comp , I ask for help all the time . I consider myself a technology tard

But I love to know the history of cannabis / Strains . I learned quick that much info is gone from old sites an threads can get censored or disappear forever . Since my time in the net I've been fortunate enough to converse an pick the brains of 2 of the most influential guys in cannabis History both Sams an Nevil . I'm thankful for what they have shared directly an indirectly , I actually consider myself lucky

My advice
If something interest you copy it an save it to your mail

1luvbigherb

 

[Elmer Bud]

G`day Sym

Hmmm .G13 and C5 both have double serrated leaves ...

Thanks for sharin

EB .

 

[Nadicus_Maximus]

NLD

Haze

http://s220.photobucket.com/user/raccoo/media/raco2/Hojas/268.jpg.htmlView Image

Colombian

http://s220.photobucket.com/user/raccoo/media/raco2/Hojas/ColMrDSCN0212009copia1.jpg.htmlView Image

WLD

Hindu Death Cabbage LOL

http://s220.photobucket.com/user/raccoo/media/raco2/Hojas/7287svenson_533.jpg.htmlView Image

X18 Pakistani indoors

http://s220.photobucket.com/user/raccoo/media/raco2/Hojas/036-31.jpg.htmlView Image

Gorgeous leaf structures!

 

[RandyCalifornia]

give it up you guy's, haven't you heard?
they found the strongest bud! *strong sarcasm*
The CTA strain is extremely potent because it uses an entirely new Sativa stain from Ecuador to serve as the base for the hybrid, which has resulted in psychoactive properties that are described as a "ceiling-less high." "So the more you smoke, the higher you get, right up to psychedelic levels," said Kubby.


Read more: http://www.nasdaq.com/press-release/cannabis-sativa-inc-signs-purchase-agreement-for-patent-pending-hybrid-marijuana-strain-cta-and-20140102-00129#ixzz2pLUBSeCO