MM X 78Thia was never released by Nevil

[Stoneguru]

Bottom line. Only a cunt makes assertions about experiences beyond their own.

Even when I have an experience based belief about a line I have grown I realize that another's experiences are different than my own. That they may have found the plant I didn't.

That's 101 in growing. You learn that early.

I don't know whether Dwights accounts are all accurate or even if his conversations with Nevil differed or lead him to different conclusions.

What I do know is that I ran around 100 Viet Laos across 6 lines and would find novel traits inline with Haze on profile and Morphology.

Every step hempy contesting that this is possible.

Then I find he hasn't ever grown any, or even smoked any. 'i never heard of'

What the hell hempy. I had people grow out the same or similar and compare notes, but I never had someone so sure also be someone that never even ran any of them.

This is getting off topic, but there are different perspectives.

Stories from inexperience or inconsistency deserve a back seat to traits.

Run the numbers, review the pictures it makes determinations based on traits first

 

[@hempy]

You're really not doing your self or Dwight any favours here, Stoney.

 

[Hempy McNoodle]

@Hempy McNoodle I had quite a bit of respect for you until It became apparent that your priorities around a narrative far out weighed your first hand experiences.

You continually asserted that you had greater knowledge or understanding than myself and others speaking in absolutes.

That is fine to, but then it became clear that you had never actually run any of the lines you say are inferior.

Ie. I ran multiple packs from all around Laos and Vietnam and noted parallel traits with haze. You denied any of these traits could be found there and then admitted you had never even grown any of them.

Then I see you have been asserting the same on others across all forums.

I still respect you as a resource for old Colombian and old Thai and the relatively small handful of lines you have mentioned growing in over 10 years.

On all else you and your 5 plant corner closet grow lost credibility.

Only a fool makes assertions Outside of their experience or about gardens they are not in.

I am not claiming Dwight is right about everything not anyone, but just like plants have markers so does BS.

I have grown far more haze types than you in both count and variety for just as long. I have grown out the same stock as you as well as what came before it.

Even with all that I would be a complete asshat to assert that I know exactly what comes out of you closet and rank it.

Bottom line. My point is the same. Clearly you have a narrative that you guard across all forums vigilantly and rank experiences that are not your own profusely with a binary close minded approach more narrow than any haze leaf

That is not objective thinking or first principals.

Bottom line. Ask questions and answer them by testing theories. Observe the traits and trust personal experience.

The only person online that has grown your 50% Thai gave a solid review here.
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Dwight has grown out more variations of your Thai through outback and potentially MM than you have. I say that based on plant count you share since the beginning of your time online. Same. He says it was great at neutralizing the NL


You spend all your time tweeking like gollum like your identity itself relies on what you covet.

You went way outside of your realm of personal experience and lost credibility where you otherwise would have it On the handful of things you know. Nobody did that to you. That's on you

Woah, woah, woah, there...

I am Hempy McNoodle!

The person you are referring to is Hempy.

Please don't confuse us! I believe you owe H. McNoodle an apology!

 

[bigherb]

Woah, woah, woah, there...

I am Hempy McNoodle!

The person you are referring to is Hempy.

Please don't confuse us! I believe you owe H. McNoodle an apology!

@@hempy

Look above I tried again

Any time I've tried to @HEMPY you pop up . I dont know if the @before his name is the issue

But I've @ you once before, unintentionally. I'm sure it's nothing about you. Apologies if this was an attempt at Humor

1luvbigherb

 

[bigherb]

@@hempy

Look above I tried again

Any time I've tried to @HEMPY you pop up . I dont know if the @before his name is the issue

But I've @ you once before, unintentionally. I'm sure it's nothing about you. Apologies if this was an attempt at Humor

1luvbigherb

Yup No issue just a mistake

use the @Twice with OG Hempy

1luvbigherb

 

[Bubba Zanetti]

Beanz original lime madness @52L

It has a super warm fuzzy golden high and Limey madness terps, leaning heavily towards the thai with golden stacked calyx armoured in limey crystal geysers.


Oh the days of haze... are over now...

 

[Stoneguru]

You're really not doing your self or Dwight any favours here, Stoney.

I put up with your tongue in cheek insults and contradictions for years.

You just spent 10 pages of telling @TomHill purple isn't in haze.

His collective thousand + o'haze plants to your zero was a weak, but typical starting point for you.

5 22w closet plants for 10 years only comes out for 100. That's single line 6 months hunts for some of us that you keep contradicting Hempy.

so after making points like only @TomHill does he posted original write ups with all the haze colors there.

Your very good at copy pasting supporting information that is convenient.

If you focused on your own experiences you would have more credibility than projecting yourself over things you never experienced.

 

[Hempy McNoodle]

@@hempy

Look above I tried again

Any time I've tried to @HEMPY you pop up . I dont know if the @before his name is the issue

But I've @ you once before, unintentionally. I'm sure it's nothing about you. Apologies if this was an attempt at Humor

1luvbigherb

I'm the the real Hempy, btw. That other guy is a time traveler that went back in time to steal my good name before I could even have a chance. A real problem, these time travelers are!

 

[@hempy]

Stoney you can dance around this all you like, but the fact remains Dwight lied and for some stupid reason you thought it was smart to post it up here and continue an attack on me that started over at a different forum.

That happens to be a fact and as for Tom and me having wards, well that was the results of him being abrasive and rude and full of him self.

 

[RoyalFlush]

 

[mr.brunch]

 

[@hempy]

so after making points like only @TomHill does he posted original write ups with all the haze colors there.

So this is the original Wright up of the purple haze you and Tom are using as reference really ?

Magical seeds he planted at a beach that grew overnight that he then smoked and sleeped with the plant until it prodused seed lol

 

[Nexus7]

@Stoneguru

Lets clear this up about hempy's Deliverance I have never given a proper review of it because I have never grown it out properly yet and only grown out two plants so far!

Deliverance#1 was a rushed short season over the winter grow here and also unfortunately got fully seeded (I left a male in the greenhouse too long) so I was not able to give a proper review.

Deliverance#2 was my first time growing indoors in 20 years. My tent got too hot with the hps I was using and had a bad whitefly infestation so I harvested about a month early so once again can't give a proper report either.

Preliminary smoke reports do suggests that Deliverance is something super special and unique and when grown properly like hempy does will be vastly superior to what else is out there.

And while I do intend to grow out the rest of Deliverance in good time it is a difficult variety to grow that does require a little extra planning, time and care which I just don't have atm

Hempy's NHz f3's were the ones I got closer to growing out properly (still probably needed 2 more weeks) and were the ones I was referring to being as as good or better as what all the other Sativa Haze offerings.

 

[Stoneguru]

So this is the original Wright up of the purple haze you and Tom are using as reference really ?

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Magical seeds he planted at a beach that grew overnight that he then smoked and sleeped with the plant until it prodused seed lol

It is a joke.

It is also a joke reading a 4x4 haze whisperer who has never actually grown haze trying to school a Cali veteran who has grown a thousand haze.

You are a copy paste warrior. I don't have any issues with growing 3-5 plants and under 12 lines in a decade online.

I have an issue with being a know it all projecting on other peoples experiences from a position of having none.

Do the fucking work. Test the results and then weigh in with an objective experience based opinions.

 

[Stoneguru]

@Stoneguru

Lets clear this up about hempy's Deliverance I have never given a proper review of it because I have never grown it out properly yet and only grown out two plants so far!

Deliverance#1 was a rushed short season over the winter grow here and also unfortunately got fully seeded (I left a male in the greenhouse too long) so I was not able to give a proper review.

Deliverance#2 was my first time growing indoors in 20 years. My tent got too hot with the hps I was using and had a bad whitefly infestation so I harvested about a month early so once again can't give a proper report either.

Preliminary smoke reports do suggests that Deliverance is something super special and unique and when grown properly like hempy does will be vastly superior to what else is out there.

And while I do intend to grow out the rest of Deliverance in good time it is a difficult variety to grow that does require a little extra planning, time and care which I just don't have atm

Hempy's NHz f3's were the ones I got closer to growing out properly (still probably needed 2 more weeks) and were the ones I was referring to being as as good or better as what all the other Sativa Haze offerings.

So it was blah hay profile for the grow, not the breeding? That's valid. I have flopped on plenty of runs

So far I have only ran about 20 female Outback crosses. All of the exceptional profiles were Nevil Haze types.

I plan to soak ~100+ Outback bx and Outback Nam later this season. If something exceptional aside from Nevil's pops up I will acknowledge it.

As of right now you have made dozens of absolutist statements about things you admit never running.

That is the highest order of bs man. Who even does that

You kost credibility where you did have it.

you have spent 10+ years every waking moment claiming the best and never even slapped a stamp on a flower to verify.

You won't do it because you yourself don't have enough confidence to move the subject passed "Nevil Said"

 

[@hempy]

There is something very wrong with you, Stoney and you need to stop because you're embarrassing your self and the community.

I really don't care what you think, you're full of your self, I have been growing sativas for 46 years and I don't think of my self in any way different or in any way more important to that of a person that is planting their first seed because none of are.

Try eating a little humble pie.

 

[Stoneguru]

There is something very wrong with you, Stoney and you need to stop because you're embarrassing your self and the community.

I really don't care what you think, you're full of your self, I have been growing sativas for 46 years and I don't think of my self in any way different or in any way more important to that of a person that is planting their first seed because none of are.

Try eating a little humble pie.

Almost humility. It's a start.

I look forward to seeing you share your experiences without invalidating the experience of others.

Sounds good man

 

[Truth Hurts]

Hempy

I appreciate you attempting to set the record straight , you know well how important i think True history is

Dwight dj9 or whatever Tag , made alot of bold claims. When I and others had legit questions about his post . He cried of being attacked but wouldn't respond to several legit questions

I recall you sided with most he had to say until your recent Thia situation

Some outrageous Post of his

A5 pics have never been posted online , nothing resembled the 100's of A5 seed he grew . A5 tasted of menthol and chicken soup .

Claims He was the South Holland Crew, one man show

Claims the lineage of Haze is just discovered to be Vietnam

Claims to know the woman responsible for bringing A5 seed back To NYC, which started our NYC HAZE Culture

YOU hempy sided with Dj9 telling me we don't need a detective

He was there with Nevil seems to be true but is his every word gospel, more likely to be taken with a grain of salt

1luvbigherb

Finally, the Truth Hurts doesnt it
This and so much in this industry

Nevil's friends denied all this bullshit/breeze from Dwight but most of you ate it up like a lapdog

How 1 man can spew so much bullshit and a whole industry just listened.

Where has Dwight been last 30 years since Nevil left the scene , that Dwight supposedly did half of Nevil's work

 

[Truth Hurts]

I had a falling out with Nevil around 2014/2015 YES because he along with a few others hurt law reform here set it back by many years because they were pushing a medical cannabis model that treated cannabis as a big pharma drug, yes we stopped talking.

We re-connected a few months before his passing.

I find this in very poor taste you that you would even bring this up here now Stoney why would you do that ?

What sort of low life are you, honestly.

Anything to prove Dwights bullshit , thats what it is.

Can't believe you ate it all up Hempy , I thought you would of known better

 

[Truth Hurts]

I put up with your tongue in cheek insults and contradictions for years.

You just spent 10 pages of telling @TomHill purple isn't in haze.

His collective thousand + o'haze plants to your zero was a weak, but typical starting point for you.

5 22w closet plants for 10 years only comes out for 100. That's single line 6 months hunts for some of us that you keep contradicting Hempy.

so after making points like only @TomHill does he posted original write ups with all the haze colors there.

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Your very good at copy pasting supporting information that is convenient.

If you focused on your own experiences you would have more credibility than projecting yourself over things you never experienced.

You talking plant numbers to hempy
What about your 100's of silk you grew , disregarding 80% before even flowering and still claiming you went through 100's to find yours , man you and dwight know how to tell tales dont you.

Nevil's own personal Friends refuted the bullshit Dwight posted but you ate it all up like dwight was Nevil
Dwight claimed he did half the seedbank, so what work has he done since Nevil retired last 30 years , Nevil retires so Dwight does to , then he really active once Nevil passes, like many other old timers seed co did once Nevil passed , they wouldn't dare while Nevil was around, but once he passed , all the 30 year ago water boys turned up all loud , claiming they did this and that