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Hi hamstring, you're welcome for the info - I hope it helps people. You've drawn a clear line between different types of police visit, and I do agree it's important to handle the situation in the most appropriate way.
You can avoid some visits from the police by never playing loud music, not threatening/being hostile with the neighbours, always making sure parking fines and other court fines are paid (and as in the case of another recent poster here, make sure yourself that the fines are paid, instead of relying on the word of someone else like your gf, which is dangerous), no problems with your vehicle outside, etc, but it's also well worth not getting into debt and having baliffs come around as they can be a problem too, and it can also be helpful to have a sticker on your door saying "we do not buy from doorstep sellers" (or similar), as this keeps the amount of knocks down.
Hell, I was getting so many visitors during the day in one house and it was p!ssing me off, as I wanted to chill, smoke and grow, without heart-pounding knocks at the door all the time, that I made my own sign in Word once with a polite list of things not required/wanted, like "Please: no sales/promotions, no religious callers, no cops (only kidding, lol), etc, SO PLEASE DO NOT KNOCK", and having this sign made the amount of knocks go down dramatically.
However, I still had one sales guy knocking on the door, and when I answered the door to this guy, he started his spiel and I calmly looked at him, looked at the sign, looked at him and said "can't you read?", he was a little shocked and he said "I'm not selling anything, blah blah, it's a free service", to which I replied "look I'm going to close the door now so please leave my property".
NB. I do not advise having a homemade sign in place - it's much better to have a commercial one that old folks, who can't answer the door easily, use to avoid getting many callers.
I also wouldn't normally recommend being rude like this to doorstep callers, and you should try to be as friendly as possible to people, but remember that this was after being harassed by them for months, with a sizeable grow and a lot of stress every time there was a knock at the door.
The worst one in fact (apart from cops of course) was when I woke up at 5.30am remembered that I hadn't put the garbage/rubbish bin out in the street, and that my gf would be moaning at me for having a full bin for a week and no-where to put more rubbish, so I got some clothes on, took the bin out and came back in.
BTW: I had BOG's Bogglegum in veg upstairs with no carbon filter as they were only small (along with other plants in flower but with a filter), and I was used to growing low odour strains, as well as getting used to the smell of the BOG plants day-by-day.
So the strangest thing happened - this guy about 45 saw me doing the bin and came down the path to the door just as I was about to go in. I said "I've not got any money for you" and he said "no, no, no, I'd never ask you for money.....could you give me a lift (a ride), as I've just finished work?", I more than a little surprised and said "what?", and he said, looking at the car parked outside the house on the street, "could you take me in your car into town?", and I said "I don't think so", and he tried to ask again.
I said "that's not my car, I haven't got a car, that's the neighbour's", then he said he smelled "weed" at the front door, and I looked him in the eye and said "I don't, there's no weed here", and he said "no, no, I know the smell because I know some people who are into it". I said "you're wrong, that's not weed" and then got a little agressive with him, as I saw that as the only way to get rid of him, saying "look, I only came out here to do the bin because my missus would be bitching at me otherwise, and I don't appreciate you coming around like this". He changed his tune and realised if he pushed things then there was the potential I was going to get nasty, then I said "you're going to have to go now and I'm going back inside".
My conclusion was that because there were no factories closing/jobs finishing at that time in the area, and as it was a bad/dodgy area, I think he was a burglar just finished a night's work, and because there was the chance of him getting stopped on the only main road out of there by the cops and searched, thus finding the stolen jewellery, cash, etc, then a lift with me would have ensured his safety.
After I went back in I did think about him smelling the herb, bought another carbon filter for the veg room later that day, but didn't tear down.
I thought that I could have had problems, but at the end of the day he must've been a local guy and he would have got his comeuppance if he had crossed me, and I think he realised that when I made strong eye contact and got verbally agressive with him, so he or his friends never came back.
Hi Durban Stone - a 600W light and fan, etc, is a significant use of power when compared with not growing, and therefore compared with your new neighbours. It's not the cost of the electricity that seems to be a problem at only 5 cents per KW, which is *very* cheap, but the comparison with the other tenants.
People say it's only like putting a heater on all day, etc, but overall it's a fair bit more than average (600W bulb, 100W+ for ballast and wires, 100W fan extractor, pumps if used, oscillating fan, cloning box, etc, all adds upto nearly a KW), and you're likely to stick out like a sore thumb.
I would strongly advise against growing anywhere where you're not completely in control of the bill and that no-one else sees it.
With growing, it's best to keep as low profile as possible, and be autonomous, i.e. bill controlled by you, internal/external repairs taken care of by you, etc, so there's no, or as little as possible, involvement with the landlord and/or agent.
This can come at some expense, as having to replace a heating boiler or the shower unit, etc, during the middle of a grow hits your pocket, but it's preferable to getting busted any day of the week.
So, choose a property without any external involvement, don't grow for around 3 months to check it out first (change locks, watch local activity/movements, etc), so that you know the situation before starting a grow, and then you are much more likely to stay safe and well.
Peace
You can avoid some visits from the police by never playing loud music, not threatening/being hostile with the neighbours, always making sure parking fines and other court fines are paid (and as in the case of another recent poster here, make sure yourself that the fines are paid, instead of relying on the word of someone else like your gf, which is dangerous), no problems with your vehicle outside, etc, but it's also well worth not getting into debt and having baliffs come around as they can be a problem too, and it can also be helpful to have a sticker on your door saying "we do not buy from doorstep sellers" (or similar), as this keeps the amount of knocks down.
Hell, I was getting so many visitors during the day in one house and it was p!ssing me off, as I wanted to chill, smoke and grow, without heart-pounding knocks at the door all the time, that I made my own sign in Word once with a polite list of things not required/wanted, like "Please: no sales/promotions, no religious callers, no cops (only kidding, lol), etc, SO PLEASE DO NOT KNOCK", and having this sign made the amount of knocks go down dramatically.
However, I still had one sales guy knocking on the door, and when I answered the door to this guy, he started his spiel and I calmly looked at him, looked at the sign, looked at him and said "can't you read?", he was a little shocked and he said "I'm not selling anything, blah blah, it's a free service", to which I replied "look I'm going to close the door now so please leave my property".
NB. I do not advise having a homemade sign in place - it's much better to have a commercial one that old folks, who can't answer the door easily, use to avoid getting many callers.
I also wouldn't normally recommend being rude like this to doorstep callers, and you should try to be as friendly as possible to people, but remember that this was after being harassed by them for months, with a sizeable grow and a lot of stress every time there was a knock at the door.
The worst one in fact (apart from cops of course) was when I woke up at 5.30am remembered that I hadn't put the garbage/rubbish bin out in the street, and that my gf would be moaning at me for having a full bin for a week and no-where to put more rubbish, so I got some clothes on, took the bin out and came back in.
BTW: I had BOG's Bogglegum in veg upstairs with no carbon filter as they were only small (along with other plants in flower but with a filter), and I was used to growing low odour strains, as well as getting used to the smell of the BOG plants day-by-day.
So the strangest thing happened - this guy about 45 saw me doing the bin and came down the path to the door just as I was about to go in. I said "I've not got any money for you" and he said "no, no, no, I'd never ask you for money.....could you give me a lift (a ride), as I've just finished work?", I more than a little surprised and said "what?", and he said, looking at the car parked outside the house on the street, "could you take me in your car into town?", and I said "I don't think so", and he tried to ask again.
I said "that's not my car, I haven't got a car, that's the neighbour's", then he said he smelled "weed" at the front door, and I looked him in the eye and said "I don't, there's no weed here", and he said "no, no, I know the smell because I know some people who are into it". I said "you're wrong, that's not weed" and then got a little agressive with him, as I saw that as the only way to get rid of him, saying "look, I only came out here to do the bin because my missus would be bitching at me otherwise, and I don't appreciate you coming around like this". He changed his tune and realised if he pushed things then there was the potential I was going to get nasty, then I said "you're going to have to go now and I'm going back inside".
My conclusion was that because there were no factories closing/jobs finishing at that time in the area, and as it was a bad/dodgy area, I think he was a burglar just finished a night's work, and because there was the chance of him getting stopped on the only main road out of there by the cops and searched, thus finding the stolen jewellery, cash, etc, then a lift with me would have ensured his safety.
After I went back in I did think about him smelling the herb, bought another carbon filter for the veg room later that day, but didn't tear down.
I thought that I could have had problems, but at the end of the day he must've been a local guy and he would have got his comeuppance if he had crossed me, and I think he realised that when I made strong eye contact and got verbally agressive with him, so he or his friends never came back.
Hi Durban Stone - a 600W light and fan, etc, is a significant use of power when compared with not growing, and therefore compared with your new neighbours. It's not the cost of the electricity that seems to be a problem at only 5 cents per KW, which is *very* cheap, but the comparison with the other tenants.
People say it's only like putting a heater on all day, etc, but overall it's a fair bit more than average (600W bulb, 100W+ for ballast and wires, 100W fan extractor, pumps if used, oscillating fan, cloning box, etc, all adds upto nearly a KW), and you're likely to stick out like a sore thumb.
I would strongly advise against growing anywhere where you're not completely in control of the bill and that no-one else sees it.
With growing, it's best to keep as low profile as possible, and be autonomous, i.e. bill controlled by you, internal/external repairs taken care of by you, etc, so there's no, or as little as possible, involvement with the landlord and/or agent.
This can come at some expense, as having to replace a heating boiler or the shower unit, etc, during the middle of a grow hits your pocket, but it's preferable to getting busted any day of the week.
So, choose a property without any external involvement, don't grow for around 3 months to check it out first (change locks, watch local activity/movements, etc), so that you know the situation before starting a grow, and then you are much more likely to stay safe and well.
Peace
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