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Who the **** they think they are dealing with?ourcee said:just caught 2, been a lil hectic lately, but lovin the counter spying
(I have the feeling they missed a lot of em...
)Some Maroc from last cut couple days ago.. That went a little late....The week before was perfect...Looks not bad I think....
I haven't sampled any yet (even from previous cuttings, dumped everything so far but have held onto a little....so, waiting for it...probably about a week....I will though of course supply the best description of smell and taste I can.....I have a pretty sensitive palate .....and maybe even also a commentary in general about bouquet and taste......(I think most people don't describe either as accurate as they could....)
Here's actually some Maroc and PP side by side...really all I have of PP is one nug. Should be noted also, the earlier Maroc looked much nicer... I really wish I would have taken a shot of that instead..(Actually is one from first round cut, but, not trimmed, so...)..These went a little too long (some still to be cut, same with PP's, but....outdoors, I tent to always cut earlier, because that extra week can hold anything......Pics above (PP and Maroc side by side), PP is actually a little nicer...original pic and resolution caught the resin much more defined.....it's not bad (PP), just a little too loose and fluffy....I prefer the nice, dense stuff, trimming easier, looks cleaner when done...can see PP a lot trimmed was not snipped at base.....(I prefer to snip at base and leave as little as possible.....) There might be a couple samples floating around also, so, maybe someone else can offer something...
Should also be noted I was recently called a "pot snob" and told to relax (ie: This arose from determining values of both....PP I have been dropping for maybe $2,000-$2,200 per, and Maroc trying for $2,400-$2,600. (First Maroc cutting rounds went for $2800-$3000, but, I thought this round (in pics) looked "much worse" than first rounds) After taking and looking at pic....I guess doesn't look that bad... (First round dumped a couple "samples" (ie: of what's to come) on a couple people, and got $200 a z (3200) for the PP and $275 z (4400) for the Maroc....Of course, I really don't do small, so.....were samples for people who take multiples..(p's)...(First round usually goes towards samples....so I know where all later rounds are going and who wants what....)
Honestly? I just determine value when it's in front of me.....and, of course, depending on who it is.....Same thing might get 2 from someone, someone else might tell them 23.....another might tell 1900, etc.....all depends what it looks like, and, how I feel at the time......Weather hasn't been too kind...(hot, humid, rainy), but, thinking about hanging some of the next rounds out for pics to illustrate also......As earlier...in my world.....it really doesn't vary....(strains, prices, etc)....either it's really nice and worth more, or not and worth less...ie: 2, 24, 28,3...etc.....really not strain dependent......Sour Bubble might go same as Maroc which might go the same as the AK's, etc.....(I don't deal with end user/ps......so.....when I determine a price it is always based on what I think they can get for it doing smaller stuff, etc.......ie: a lot of people try to charge, say......5....but don't take into consideration that means that they're wholesale price is 300 a z......and, what are they supposed to sell that for????
Point being: I think people tend to just think about their end, and their interests, when really, it's your responsibility to be keeping others interests in mind......I sell to people who sell to make money....If they can't make money, then why would they buy it at all?....
(Should be noted though usually I let nothing go unless a 10-12 day cure on it...which is the earliest I personally deem it ready to be smoked....so....another factor as all know in quality......lately, people have been wanting at about day 3-4 of cure....and, before that happens, I basically roll a couple, hand it to a couple people and ask them what they think.....how is taste, how does it burn, how does it smoke, etc.......
All that being said (I know...blah,blah,blah,blah,blah) My target is usually $2,750 and I'm happy for nice stuff....and, $2,000 for less than nice stuff....all varies, as elsewhere above in thread.......in the end, range of everything might be from $1,650-$3,250......all depends what it is..(even same thing...nice and solid, loose and thin....different prices, etc....)....I try to be fair....
.....and maybe even also a commentary in general about bouquet and taste......(I think most people don't describe either as accurate as they could....)Here's actually some Maroc and PP side by side...really all I have of PP is one nug. Should be noted also, the earlier Maroc looked much nicer... I really wish I would have taken a shot of that instead..(Actually is one from first round cut, but, not trimmed, so...)..These went a little too long (some still to be cut, same with PP's, but....outdoors, I tent to always cut earlier, because that extra week can hold anything......Pics above (PP and Maroc side by side), PP is actually a little nicer...original pic and resolution caught the resin much more defined.....it's not bad (PP), just a little too loose and fluffy....I prefer the nice, dense stuff, trimming easier, looks cleaner when done...can see PP a lot trimmed was not snipped at base.....(I prefer to snip at base and leave as little as possible.....) There might be a couple samples floating around also, so, maybe someone else can offer something
...Should also be noted I was recently called a "pot snob" and told to relax
(ie: This arose from determining values of both....PP I have been dropping for maybe $2,000-$2,200 per, and Maroc trying for $2,400-$2,600. (First Maroc cutting rounds went for $2800-$3000, but, I thought this round (in pics) looked "much worse" than first rounds) After taking and looking at pic....I guess doesn't look that bad... (First round dumped a couple "samples" (ie: of what's to come) on a couple people, and got $200 a z (3200) for the PP and $275 z (4400) for the Maroc....Of course, I really don't do small, so.....were samples for people who take multiples..(p's)...(First round usually goes towards samples....so I know where all later rounds are going and who wants what....)Honestly? I just determine value when it's in front of me.....and, of course, depending on who it is.....Same thing might get 2 from someone, someone else might tell them 23.....another might tell 1900, etc.....all depends what it looks like, and, how I feel at the time......Weather hasn't been too kind...(hot, humid, rainy), but, thinking about hanging some of the next rounds out for pics to illustrate also..
....As earlier...in my world.....it really doesn't vary....(strains, prices, etc)....either it's really nice and worth more, or not and worth less...ie: 2, 24, 28,3...etc.....really not strain dependent......Sour Bubble might go same as Maroc which might go the same as the AK's, etc.....(I don't deal with end user/ps......so.....when I determine a price it is always based on what I think they can get for it doing smaller stuff, etc.......ie: a lot of people try to charge, say......5....but don't take into consideration that means that they're wholesale price is 300 a z......and, what are they supposed to sell that for????Point being: I think people tend to just think about their end, and their interests, when really, it's your responsibility to be keeping others interests in mind......I sell to people who sell to make money....If they can't make money, then why would they buy it at all?....
(Should be noted though usually I let nothing go unless a 10-12 day cure on it...which is the earliest I personally deem it ready to be smoked....so....another factor as all know in quality......lately, people have been wanting at about day 3-4 of cure....and, before that happens, I basically roll a couple, hand it to a couple people and ask them what they think.....how is taste, how does it burn, how does it smoke, etc.......
All that being said (I know...blah,blah,blah,blah,blah
) My target is usually $2,750 and I'm happy for nice stuff....and, $2,000 for less than nice stuff....all varies, as elsewhere above in thread.......in the end, range of everything might be from $1,650-$3,250......all depends what it is..(even same thing...nice and solid, loose and thin....different prices, etc....)....I try to be fair....
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Yeah, as above, this was a sample run of both of those, and, Maroc, very pleased with it, will run it again.....Went a little earlier than I expected....not sure if they are this early of if I triggered em (some still couple weeks, some ready 2 weeks ago...) I liked it a little early myself.....and will take it all a little early in all upcoming rounds...(I don't get there often, so, something might be "almost" ready, but, then, I might not get back there for a week and a half, and, really can't rely on partners for when it's "done"......(never have....they let stuff go way to far....)NEToker said:
Yeah.....I'll run it again,just in a different way....(since I know should go out first, will come in earlier, and not too large, etc...ie: I'll put out before anything else, little early even, more of them, and closer spacing...)
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Wow Julian, the way you tell, the stories/wisdom is top notch man, Gandolf (lord of the rings)couldnt hold a candle, lol
I was out to dig some spots tonight, and my little fold up ($45) shovel broke in the 2nd pull.
Believe that man! Guess tomorrow night I'll take the real deal. It wasnt too dark out there as i thought it might be the other day when I scoped. Still gotta check across the wa-hay abit for more holes.
Question time > What do you do for pests/insects when you first put them out? I was thinking a garlic/soap spray. Also I've never put some this small outside, how fertile should I make the soil? Ive got basics, 3 bags compost, 1 cow manure, half bale peat, and then a few nutes, should i just mix the compost manure and peat? Maybe come back and top feed some extras if nec/when flower? One more, I slipped and grabbed hydrated lime, not dolomite, is it worth getting the goods? (needs epsom salts also...)
Really appreciate any words, I've never planted quite this late and it will indeed be a new experiement. I've got about 30 beans(mandala seeds, nirvanas and some others too), ready to pop through some coir "pellets" and 10 more that I'll drop in compst dixie cups to spring alive. They will probably need to go to Nov 10-20 to finish, which is about 15 days too late imo, but I have a little camera, and when they start to flower I'll bring something by, and we'll see. Big rain supposed to come tomorrow night and sat! Too bad these werent about 36 hrs older, ill stash em.
Keep up the vibrant conversation people,
Edit: I did plant some outside aug 27 before, that is correct, but they were sprouted under floros on Aug 3. But it's always good to know the earth, and the limits of your babies
Wow Julian, the way you tell, the stories/wisdom is top notch man, Gandolf (lord of the rings)couldnt hold a candle, lol
I was out to dig some spots tonight, and my little fold up ($45) shovel broke in the 2nd pull.
Believe that man! Guess tomorrow night I'll take the real deal. It wasnt too dark out there as i thought it might be the other day when I scoped. Still gotta check across the wa-hay abit for more holes. Question time > What do you do for pests/insects when you first put them out? I was thinking a garlic/soap spray. Also I've never put some this small outside, how fertile should I make the soil? Ive got basics, 3 bags compost, 1 cow manure, half bale peat, and then a few nutes, should i just mix the compost manure and peat? Maybe come back and top feed some extras if nec/when flower? One more, I slipped and grabbed hydrated lime, not dolomite, is it worth getting the goods? (needs epsom salts also...)
Really appreciate any words, I've never planted quite this late and it will indeed be a new experiement. I've got about 30 beans(mandala seeds, nirvanas and some others too), ready to pop through some coir "pellets" and 10 more that I'll drop in compst dixie cups to spring alive. They will probably need to go to Nov 10-20 to finish, which is about 15 days too late imo, but I have a little camera, and when they start to flower I'll bring something by, and we'll see. Big rain supposed to come tomorrow night and sat! Too bad these werent about 36 hrs older, ill stash em.
Keep up the vibrant conversation people,
Edit: I did plant some outside aug 27 before, that is correct, but they were sprouted under floros on Aug 3. But it's always good to know the earth, and the limits of your babies
onthecouch said:
Do you remember that avi? Tellin ya.......those one piece stainless.....way to goI was out to dig some spots tonight, and my little fold up ($45) shovel broke in the 2nd pull.
.....(especially with planting late...bigger holes not as much (nearly) of an issue....depends on the soil your working with though....)Honestly?....I don't.....any....at all......(if I see an issue, then I go in and check to see what's appropriate based on problem....)
Don't forget......your not working with start of season conditions (expected growth, time they will be out and draw, etc....if doing time release, could be harvested even before depleted...)
2.You have to remember also, depending on soil, that, your not starting out neutral to start with...(ie: You might be able to plant in native soil with absolutely nothing and take them home.....lack of (larger hole and nutes) would simply affect yield to a degree.....lot of my later city spots I haven't even been to since planted (the ones all fem...)
3.Try and remember you want it leaning towards a flower mix.....so......wouldn't want to rely on a veg mix if they will be starting to flower shortly.....(Also, along same lines, diet increases and size and growth increases, so, again......N in flower mix may very well be enough to get them through when smaller/seedlings.....
4.What I do for late and small is simply make my mix (even larger earlier to a small degree) so I am not weighted down, and, mix it up so that a handfull basically gets mixed in.....Sometimes, depending, I might have other things to add and use them also.....some chicken manure, recently had a little soil mix left....so...just mixed my dry nutes in, ws slightly larger, and, holes got 2 handfulls, 3, etc, etc....
You can also, after planted, do a top feed and work it in, but, as above, and, as I am sure you see....late a different approach (as they go into flower shortly)...so, less growth, less size, different diet than early planted giants....different method....
Well, earlier in thread, first couple pages, had pics of them going out later....I do later, again, different from early (ie: earlier larger and more established...) for several reasons....that still apply...Really appreciate any words, I've never planted quite this late and it will indeed be a new experiement. I've got about 30 beans(mandala seeds, nirvanas and some others too), ready to pop through some coir "pellets" and 10 more that I'll drop in compst dixie cups to spring alive. They will probably need to go to Nov 10-20 to finish, which is about 15 days too late imo, but I have a little camera, and when they start to flower I'll bring something by, and we'll see. Big rain supposed to come tomorrow night and sat! Too bad these werent about 36 hrs older, ill stash em.
Keep up the vibrant conversation people,
Edit: I did plant some outside aug 27 before, that is correct, but they were sprouted under floros on Aug 3. But it's always good to know the earth, and the limits of your babies
1.You are not going to get growth rates inside that you will out, so, (earlier or later) best to get them out as soon as possible. Later applies more having to deal with environmental issues (sun, greater intensity, etc...) Later I get em out as above/pics (can find on maybe earlier pages of gallery also, in bags and germing)....
Depends on spot also, but, I get em out as early as possible (late rounds....)
Also all other aspects depend on finishing....right now too late?....well, possibly not depending on strain, and spot, etc,...might even be a good time (but, it is late, and, getting later by the day....)
As above, try and get in prior to rains, but, also try and water them when planted also (so, water, and then rains....ideally a single heavy longer saturating rain........)
Lot depends on soil you are working with...( a lot, easy to dig, nutes, etc...) My later, as above, I do quick, hole basically equivalent to maybe a 16 ox cup..(with stainless..)...can do one or more a minute....(I think later rounds I was up to 100 in less than an hour....)
If smaller numbers (I just remembered above), can spend a little more time on each one, little more effort, so, might want to do a larger mix, and, slightly larger holes.....(ie: instead of handful, could do 6 and more in your mix....instead of 16oz size, could do one gallon size, etc, but, again, remember, your not working with May conditions.....Your doing lates, that will be smaller and be done quick.
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Ok, maybe Ill just use my gardeners one(what is it a spade?), cant take more than 3 minutes to dig out a 32oz space(appreciate the 16oz cup reference, very easy to see). And yeah, native soil is heavy clay like, and with small numbers of plants i need to allow for optimal growth, probably use non of the native in the actually dig out spot
This is my first semi-urban also, cant wait to see these try and come through.
I'll just mix the major three components, until it feels right, then top with a little nutes, water with diluted seaweed, should be simple.
Just worried about finishing, especially the mandala kalichakra, mostly because I've never done a STRAIGHT 12/12 grow, I know it can be done, seen some recent threads detailing a straight 12/12, even one with white rhino, which I also happen to have. Its just that these are not 50 day(short) flowering strains, and if it takes 20 days....see...this will definately be close, but if nothing else, I can always make a lil hash and still get high without calling people right?
This is my first semi-urban also, cant wait to see these try and come through.
I'll just mix the major three components, until it feels right, then top with a little nutes, water with diluted seaweed, should be simple.
Just worried about finishing, especially the mandala kalichakra, mostly because I've never done a STRAIGHT 12/12 grow, I know it can be done, seen some recent threads detailing a straight 12/12, even one with white rhino, which I also happen to have. Its just that these are not 50 day(short) flowering strains, and if it takes 20 days....see...this will definately be close, but if nothing else, I can always make a lil hash and still get high without calling people right?
Yeah...I like one piece stainless ones, rubber wrapped......saw em at wal mart and had to have a coupleonthecouch said:
.....couple bucks.....best ones I ever used....Well, depending on soil......can be very quick......(Exactly what I do is above somewhere.....somewhere
"stab-twist-nutes-twist-plant-water-cover......"...I do the 16 oz, whole procedure above sometimes in 30 seconds...harder soil.....still would not be that much longer...maybe a minute or two......don't forget, most likely you have a lot of surrounding vegetation, so, total soil replacement is going towards "optimal".....one end of spectrum to other...me? for numbers?.......I go somewhere in the middle....lot depends on your tool(s).....one piece stainless though best you can use for such things....(larger holes, harder soil, I like pitchforks instead of shovels....seems easier and quicker...)Best of and be careful........
Well, you could also add more items/ingredients, but, keep in mind final mix and how it will be divided (in handfuls or shovelfuls, etc....)
Well.....it is getting a little late.....so.....and, yeah, not going to break out in hairs in a weekJust worried about finishing, especially the mandala kalichakra, mostly because I've never done a STRAIGHT 12/12 grow, I know it can be done, seen some recent threads detailing a straight 12/12, even one with white rhino, which I also happen to have. Its just that these are not 50 day(short) flowering strains, and if it takes 20 days....see...this will definitely be close, but if nothing else, I can always make a lil hash and still get high without calling people right?
, so.....but, should end up with something especially if you have done later......(I've really never done this late for the most part.....and usually get them out asap after germ....), but, yeah, the outdoor equivalent to 12/12 from seed essentially......as above...all strain dependent though....all strain dependent...(how quick, finishing times, etc....)
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I was just checking forecast, got rain for next 3 days or so, have about 8 beans poppoin through coir, (no signs of a live white rhino yet, this is my first failed germination, but im still holdin out for them) almost couldnt find water crystals today, but now with them, polyacrylamide, hope its the goods, i shouldnt have to water but maybe ionce a month, just in time for a light feeding each month,
also, checked the first frost, avg highs and lows of oct, nov, things look promising if its all low key, avg highs in the mid 70s in october, with a following 67 high avg in november, frost NORMALLY after the 15th, just gotta think of where to hang dry now, as my house is unpreferable
how tightly did you say you spaced again?
Note- the blueberries dont look like they are gonna pop, not sure if i kept these unwisely for too long, but surely cant wait to get some more mandala genetics, they are all healthy looking coming up quick...what you can, where you can, however you can, Jules is the nike man, just do it
thanks again for some good clean inspiration
cheers
also, checked the first frost, avg highs and lows of oct, nov, things look promising if its all low key, avg highs in the mid 70s in october, with a following 67 high avg in november, frost NORMALLY after the 15th, just gotta think of where to hang dry now, as my house is unpreferable
how tightly did you say you spaced again?
Note- the blueberries dont look like they are gonna pop, not sure if i kept these unwisely for too long, but surely cant wait to get some more mandala genetics, they are all healthy looking coming up quick...what you can, where you can, however you can, Jules is the nike man, just do it
thanks again for some good clean inspiration
cheers
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Well........your rushin....aren't cha?........(Shhhhhh.....we're supposed to be switching over to more environmentally friendly crystalsonthecouch said:
)Yeah, key with late things (and, this is late
) is have to watch them due to weather (ie: small, not "established", harsh heat and sun, so.....until roots have some penetration and are "settled in"....have to be moist........you know...August.....some harsh weather....no moisture can fry them quick if too small and everything dries up, so, key is in watching and maintaining moisture (as above, at least until they've "grabbed"...)Well, have to keep in mind all those are general figures and a baseline for target.......May very well be favorable longer, or shorter, and, of course, as has been discussed before elsewhere.... a single frost may very well not even be an issue....(Many outdoor have had experiences with lower temps....so...single not not necessarily "the end".....what next day is, etc, matters more.....)
Late season I always do out hang, but, don't forget, your not going to be loaded down with hefties to start anyway if your starting now
...(fairly quick and easy trim and could probably dry them any number of ways at hole since not an enormous amount.....Welll.....if your only doing a couple....I assume area and spacing is less of an issue......(ie: you may not have to space tight....) I do 4 per sq./ ft more or less, pre sexed, but, space tight due to location issues, number issues....(sexing thins them out, etc....I put a pic of a couple for illustration recently above somewhere....)
Glad of help......hope you get things underway quick and all turns out well....(I'd like to know out dates and strains and how they turned out in the end myself for future knowledge....haven't run any Mandala...know all their stuff....fairly reasonable cost wise, but, haven't run any.....)Note- the blueberries dont look like they are gonna pop, not sure if i kept these unwisely for too long, but surely cant wait to get some more mandala genetics, they are all healthy looking coming up quick...what you can, where you can, however you can, Jules is the nike man, just do it
thanks again for some good clean inspiration
cheers
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Julian!
you hold the record for talk and reply!
Are there any relivent pics,what page????
Hopefuly soon!
you hold the record for talk and reply!
Are there any relivent pics,what page????
Hopefuly soon!
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damn J... you really done did it... those look niiiiiice...... i hope i know you in another life..hahah
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Which ones?......
You know....all I think can relate to those "****, I wish I had the camera" days, and, this last trip out was one of those..(next week or two I will get some...).......(I hit some spots I haven't in a LONG time.(2 months?).....was VERY surprised.......and,.....I WISH I could share the smell..........truly.........(ie: standing in middle of.....quite a few
....12-15 footers.....all flowering .....exactly what I needed......)
Only when I've/someone's got something to say....Question/answer...that's how it worksLougrew! said:
Same reply as before:
Actually, there are about 50+/- pics in this thread. Basically entire gallery is linked to illustrate points made throughout.
Next time you ask, will probably be up to 60-70
...(If you want to skip thread...just go to gallery.....virtually every pic is linked to a point made...all except 1-2 from last month? month and a half?....whenever thread was started..started new handle with all recent/new pics....earlier rounds were with last handle...so....sorry, not everything....Note: semi small ones in city (1-3ft) were from the location lost recently ....500-700, somewhere between those, but, should also have some pics of other city spots when I get in there possibly next time...)
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Not trying to HIGH-jack your thread or anything , just thought I'd update you on my super late grow
it is....
BOMB- yep, looks like a crash and BURN situation. The news said rain
, so i let them go 2 days (and a half) without a watering, no rain, and it looks like dried up plants right now 
, Ill have to check daytime to make sure I didnt overlook anything too small, planted too deep maybe.
That was 7 I belive, and then I took another 5 to holes I didnt use last year, and found a construction site had encroached and swallowed my holes! Earlier this year they were working a few hundred yards out, but didnt know they were gonna move in. So in a last ditch squeeze found a better place around the corner, funny how the land changes and what is good one year, no good the next, and vice versa of course. Anyway, I tossed them in the smallest hole you could, dug with a stick, as i didnt expect to be diggin. It's over 100 here, never planted in heat like this, intense for sure.
Anyway, I've nver had this bad of germination rate before either...
no white rhinos popped, (first time ive ever had this porlbem with nirvana) only 4 durban posions, 9 kalichakras, and also no blueberry seeds, which could have been quite old. Still...not too good, and the site I had planned for next year just got knocked out of the picture
Time to get to work I guess
, just thought I'd update you on my super late growit is....
BOMB- yep, looks like a crash and BURN situation. The news said rain
, so i let them go 2 days (and a half) without a watering, no rain, and it looks like dried up plants right now , Ill have to check daytime to make sure I didnt overlook anything too small, planted too deep maybe.That was 7 I belive, and then I took another 5 to holes I didnt use last year, and found a construction site had encroached and swallowed my holes!
Earlier this year they were working a few hundred yards out, but didnt know they were gonna move in. So in a last ditch squeeze found a better place around the corner, funny how the land changes and what is good one year, no good the next, and vice versa of course. Anyway, I tossed them in the smallest hole you could, dug with a stick, as i didnt expect to be diggin. It's over 100 here, never planted in heat like this, intense for sure. Anyway, I've nver had this bad of germination rate before either...
no white rhinos popped, (first time ive ever had this porlbem with nirvana) only 4 durban posions, 9 kalichakras, and also no blueberry seeds, which could have been quite old. Still...not too good, and the site I had planned for next year just got knocked out of the pictureTime to get to work I guess
Not at all man......not my thread man, more yoursonthecouch said:Not trying to HIGH-jack your thread or anything
....See, now you see why I focus heavily on small and late (and keeping an eye...), That's exactly how it happens...(can happen)....when new, sun, heat.........have to watch the moisture.....one day without can be too much (initially)...(and why later as quick/soon as possible)BOMB- yep, looks like a crash and BURN situation. The news said rain
(Same applies similar to earlier in season, but, of course, environmental issues not as intense as August, so......they get established quicker and easier....once established (roots, penetration), they're good to go,m can withstand a little more, but, when fresh, small? Until any penetration.....really pretty fragile overall (to elements...)
Had that happen to me earlier this year (somewhere earlier in thread)....made the run, loaded down and ready to plant, only to get to spot and find out had been all shaved and cut down (middle of city, back of factory....)
Such is the ebb and flow
biglaugh of spots........yeah, as above...that kind of weather...have to watch em at first....until established....(heavy rain can buy you a little time, watering initially a little time, and, from there, you go day to day until some penetration to them.....Eh, things happen....such is life or the urban guerillaAnyway, I've nver had this bad of germination rate before either...
Time to get to work I guess
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JULIAN? Just wondering if you ever had experience with wild seeds like malawi gold,is it true that since their "wild" they grow with out being watered?
None at all......I've always just grown what I wanted to,(when shopping) and, same as many do, as long as finishing times make it viable....Was always my understanding green in itself is a "wild weed"BCSOG said:
...and, have always done, and know many who do no maintenance grows.....My larger ones I basically never have watered, ever, same for the most part with all city plots....(Yes, for city, if going might bring some if extended period without rain, and, larger if we are there and on enough on site, but, not something I ever get out of bed to do....)Lies more in them getting established from start....once established, they are good to go...Note: Haven't dabbled with AF's either, but, have been gravitating towards them for a while, and, currently have offers and have spoken with producers about bulk, so....think going to run some test batches in the near future...probably shooting for a May 1st one when I do, etc..(as normally, as above and elsewhere, I just use planting times to shoot for same objectives in past, but, will try an earlier season run in future and see what I think, and, that will determine what I think and if I do them again, etc...)
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