MASSIVE OUTDOOR GROW

[Guest]

looks like my game is over for a while ...yesterday morning i saw that i had prowlers & rippers ... don't know what to do!!!

 

[dj digigrow]

looks like my game is over for a while ...yesterday morning i saw that i had prowlers & rippers ... don't know what to do!!!

Sorry to hear that,,.... Find a new spot and put out double this time...

P.S. Thanks Pimp

 

[Pimpslapped]

looks like my game is over for a while ...yesterday morning i saw that i had prowlers & rippers ... don't know what to do!!!

I'd say write that spot off. Sucks, that's one thing I fear when I start my outdoors babies, but in the grand scheme of things it could be much worse.

Did you see them in action or come upon evidence of their activity? Keep your safety in mind, there's always another spot you can try. It's possible if you had things spread out some might have gotten missed, but keep in mind potential risks inherit in checking.

Dj... No prob. My answer might not be the best, keep in mind I have 0 outdoor grows to back up anything I say... and only 1 small indoor. Just trying to use the common sense approach to things. I tend to try to over complicate matters, espeically when I've been smoking. So I make a conscious effort to simply as much as I can. Not always very successful, much better at talking the talk there, my walking's been a little hit and miss.

 

[Hindu Killer]

After many seasons of growing...Ive learned some things the hard way. You cant trust any one with the knowledge of where your plants are at...or that your even growing. Things just run smoother this way. Untill you get some experience. Several seasons of successful grows under your belt. Nothing worse than growing it, drying it and then storeing it to come home and find it gone.

 

[Pimpslapped]

After many seasons of growing...Ive learned some things the hard way. You cant trust any one with the knowledge of where your plants are at...or that your even growing. Things just run smoother this way. Untill you get some experience. Several seasons of successful grows under your belt. Nothing worse than growing it, drying it and then storeing it to come home and find it gone.

Worse would be coming home to find someone waiting there. Getting ripped off would be a bitch, yes... but it could be much worse. Never forget that security is not just for keeping smoke/money in your possession. Your freedom and lifestyle/life are at risk. And considering this threads topic, the larger the grow, the bigger the potential consequences.

 

[filimagno]

After many seasons of growing...Ive learned some things the hard way. You cant trust any one with the knowledge of where your plants are at...or that your even growing. Things just run smoother this way. Untill you get some experience. Several seasons of successful grows under your belt. Nothing worse than growing it, drying it and then storeing it to come home and find it gone.

ok ..but why all this worries within julian??
he's trying to put his experience for the people are interested to hear that!!
i don't know why lot of user continue to stop by this thread if there was 'nt involve in this curiosity or sharing of passions!

hope is understandable...cause i'm a lower level englished..and i want to say THANX to all the people like julian who waste theyr time with us to explain at best (and with simple word) how it turns the world by theyr experience.
probably if i was more able with the language i did the same as julian even if the thread could seems some other messaged or typed.

just my two eurocents....thx again to all who share his experiences

fuck the trolls with an amazing update julian!!!!
CIAOOOOO

 

[Pimpslapped]

ok ..but why all this worries within julian??

hope is understandable...cause i'm a lower level englished..and i want to say THANX to all the people like julian who waste theyr time with us to explain at best (and with simple word) how it turns the world by theyr experience.
probably if i was more able with the language i did the same as julian even if the thread could seems some other messaged or typed.

just my two eurocents....thx again to all who share his experiences

CIAOOOOO

I didn't see HK's post being trollish. Just a response to Star Crash's unfortunate run in with Rippers/Prowlers. And I think Julian will cope with any trolls adequately. Since the majority of people in this thread are able to remain mature and calm for the most part, it helps keep trolls from finding much purchase.

I'd be more than happy for you to share any of your wisdom with us here, filimango. I'm in this thread to learn and because the discussions catch my interest. I'm sure we can be patient and work with you if you have trouble with English.

 

[Guest]

so i had the ideal situation for both indoor & outdoor cultivation (lasted 4 years)

bought land & home in the country and lived the growers life for 4 years steady in one place (my bad i know that now) ... i had some amazing grows (some of them posted here on icmag under older handles)

yesterday morning i went out to work to open up some plants from a structure that was force flowering them ... i found the door was open & some plants were hand ripped stalks & leaf debris sctattered about in a horrible & multilating way... my lovely ladies that i had hand cared for the past few months were abused by gleeful local teens whom hand stripped the tops ... someone had been inside the dark house the previous eve right under my nose while i slept ...

outside i have plants for outdoor projects ... some of these were stripped in the same fashion ... i am bummed ... family depends on me and I've been robbed & compromised out of a potential bumper harvest and ALL future projects

star has crashed

 

[Julian]

Y'know Julian.... now I understand the restaurant/drunks reference.

A more suitable analogy I really can't imagine

Happens to also be how I view it myself.......(Site(s) are different things, to different people...That's what it is to me )

As for any insults slung my way, water off a ducks back as they say. Always helps to just look to the source, of course.

Well, others posted up anything from 200-600+ projects,at a time?, etc which I think is nothing to sneeze at, much less disrespect......(Anyone who sees fit should try raising, digging, prepping, planting 500 a time....

 

[Julian]

in dense forest, what's the best path of the sun to look for?, morning to noon or noon to sunset??
its kind of a pita to find an open clear spot with sun exposer all day...

Well, might hear a lot of different answers, different schools of thought, I like afternoon (one will notice intensity during summer builds..least around me, gets hotter and hotter and hotter from like 2pm on give or take....)

I've heard some say morning to be avoided to give them a chance to "wake up"...(not the technical term or description ), and then you will hear others say they like it in morning to dissipate all dew, etc (which if hot and humid I would think could actually increase issues......)

I like afternoon...think most beneficial.....

 

[mariman]

Damn sorry about the rippers......

Its a must be a bad feeling man.

At least it wasnt leo!!! Right?

 

[Julian]

Hey my friend! Hope all is well.....

I know I could do trees in a few spots, late season minis in another, lots of lush green growth around.

And that's the true approach and "highest and best use" and efficiency......exactly.......might be 100 great spots, but, all might require different approach to utilize them successfully....

oh and by the way, the Trainwreck took longer then expected to drop some roots (temp issue the first week), but I'll have a nice handfull ready to go by the start of next week

edit: oh and I got in a 5 lb bottle of those crystals, I went with the "small" size and I think it'll be perfect. I couldn't wait to play around with em so I dropped a pinch in my soda definitely got a feel for how far the stuff works

I knew you'd be playing around with it I really love that stuff.......(and, no, despite what you may hear elsewhere, it will not make your buds taste like plastic No more than my railroad spots taste like soot Yeah, small...medium....I actually use them all for different things and when running low I just actually mix them together at the end.....

Thought you'd get a kick out of that

 

[Julian]

If I'm wrong, I'm sure someone will catch it soon enough.

I'd look for something more from late morning/early evening sun exposure. Dawn and sunset would (to my logic) be times when the light reaching the plant would be least intense, going through the day until noon (Or midday, to be more exact.. actual time may vary) when it is at it's most intense, then the strength drops again. So I'd assume that as much sun during the peak light output as possible would be the way to go. (Taking adequate precautions to protect/harden seedlings/shoots of course)

See, I've always noticed/felt from midday to later it just seems to get worse.....(sun, intensity, heat......) Lately noticing more...

 

[Julian]

After many seasons of growing...Ive learned some things the hard way. You cant trust any one with the knowledge of where your plants are at...or that your even growing. Things just run smoother this way. Untill you get some experience. Several seasons of successful grows under your belt. Nothing worse than growing it, drying it and then storeing it to come home and find it gone.

Or even as I said earlier on:
That you even have any knowledge of growing........

Even that you know anything....about anything.....

(Because if you display a knowledge of the process, then, of course, you must grow because otherwise how would you know.......and, once you display any, good luck on trying to backtrack on it....doesn't work......)

Always best to remain silent......(and let the "experts" talk about how a seed in an ounce means it's male plants, and it's better to grow females because this is where the good buds come from )

(I'll fuckin never forget that one )

 

[Julian]

ok ..but why all this worries within julian??
he's trying to put his experience for the people are interested to hear that!!
i don't know why lot of user continue to stop by this thread if there was 'nt involve in this curiosity or sharing of passions!

hope is understandable...cause i'm a lower level englished..and i want to say THANX to all the people like julian who waste theyr time with us to explain at best (and with simple word) how it turns the world by theyr experience.
probably if i was more able with the language i did the same as julian even if the thread could seems some other messaged or typed.

just my two eurocents....thx again to all who share his experiences

fuck the trolls with an amazing update julian!!!!
CIAOOOOO

Thanks for stopping in my friend. ...English is fine (Better than most Americans actually )

 

[Julian]

I didn't see HK's post being trollish.

Nah, he was talking in general, not about HK....

 

[Julian]

yesterday morning i went out to work to open up some plants from a structure that was force flowering them ... i found the door was open & some plants were hand ripped stalks & leaf debris sctattered about in a horrible & multilating way... my lovely ladies that i had hand cared for the past few months were abused by gleeful local teens whom hand stripped the tops ... someone had been inside the dark house the previous eve right under my nose while i slept ...

I'm very sorry man.......sincerely......and, frankly, this kind of shit that makes my blood fuckin boil.........

And for what?.......

They obviously (I assume) weren't done...possibly not even started yet!

.. family depends on me and I've been robbed & compromised out of a potential bumper harvest and ALL future projects

To the stupid little scumbag thieves who most likely come across this (and, there are, and, they will....)

You fuck a man taking care of his family for a bunch of premature shit leaf????

Because that's what they do........this is not taking from a corporate entity who figures it off as a write off...........or taking something from an insured facility.......

It's stealing from a man...just like you....(well, obviously not "just like", but, point is obvious...)

Thieves always piss me off........

They always steal from "regular" people......(go ahead, rob a jewelry store, a bank...embezzle from corporate.....insurance fraud....be my guest.........but to fuck an average guy?.......fuckin shit turns me vicious........truly...

Well,....maybe you can get something late done......still not too late..(getting there, still time though.......)

Fuckin they steal....and get nothing....(same as scumbags who steal a purse or wallet....for what?.....20 bucks and a failed credit card attempt leaving "average" person with fuckin 3 weeks of trying to replace everything in wallet.....)



(True story:Myself and another once beat a guy senseless for stealing a ladies purse and throwing it in the sewer........we made him put it in the mailbox.....ie: If you toss it in mailbox post office will return it to owner......Ripping someone off...one thing...far be it from me to judge anyone .., but, you know, to do deliberate shit? (Average person....what, a week off work she can't afford in the first place to replace social, DL,etc, etc?......just not fuckin right.....

 

[Julian]

Notes on placement, utilization....

While certain placement may of course be optimal (or less)....the "bottom line is always "what you can, where you can, how you can, when you can"...

So, sure, is one thing preferred over another?......Is "optimal" preferred?....Sure...of course......

Me? I do what I can...(start at optimal and work your way back.....placement/stealth/safety/security being first.....)

"Ideal" means little if you don't bring em in ....

 

[pakalolo420]

When looking at a site's potential sun exposure, remember that late in the season when flowering occurs- especially up North where I am- the path of the sun across the sky will progressively get lower and lower. A spot that receives full direct sun in late June may well get little or none in mid-October if you haven't taken this into account. And to realize their potential while flowering, your plants will require good sun exposure right up until harvest. That late season sun will also help ensure that your plants won't be as apt to suffer from botrytis aka gray mold aka bud rot. There are few things more frustrating than growing big healthy plants only to find them in October with those buds you were ready to chop covered in gray fuzz and worthless.

 

[Julian]

When looking at a site's potential sun exposure, remember that late in the season when flowering occurs- especially up North where I am- the path of the sun across the sky will progressively get lower and lower. A spot that receives full direct sun in late June may well get little or none in mid-October if you haven't taken this into account. And to realize their potential while flowering, your plants will require good sun exposure right up until harvest. That late season sun will also help ensure that your plants won't be as apt to suffer from botrytis aka gray mold aka bud rot. There are few things more frustrating than growing big healthy plants only to find them in October with those buds you were ready to chop covered in gray fuzz and worthless.

I always start with open canopy (overhead) and then work back and forwards from there....might be full afternoon, might be some late morning and then early afternoon.....some of my city spots are shaded to one side so get from about 11-12 then till sunset (or vice versa.....) Majority though get sun up till sun down which actually works against me with moisture issues....(TOO much sun )I do a lot of clearings, but, I go easy on the centers and build up to edges depending on the exposure when I am there and also estimating on how vegetation will grow out, etc (close by not an issue and anything can be cut and trimmed down....more canopy issues, etc....)

Edit: Note......A very interesting season we're having....I'm waiting to see how it plays out....very mild overall.........really waiting to see what late Sept/Oct hold

(I know out West got hit by that blast (heat), but, overall, for me?....Not bad at all so far........started out rainfall an issue, but, following that....really fairly mild overall, good rainfall......(just enough to carry things to the next one, etc.....) I'm fairly pleased so far.......(hopefully after I visit everything in weeks to come, I will remain as pleased



Not to mention I have PP's basically almost ready and some others on their way....so......really keeping an eye on those (heat and rains.....didn't expect them this early....nothing ever mentioned even came close to stating they are this early, so ....)