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I picked up some Femed Jorge's Diamonds seed, a while back from a close friend. I didnt expect much from these seeds, but I used them for a few of my mother plants this last season. This strain is the most impressive strain from the lot, and the latest plots are already heavy with 1+ lbs/per plant. I learned from Julian to always estimate low, so u are never disappointed, and it makes for even more excitement when the final weight far exceeds your guesstimate! I started counting the massive arms for branches and I figured each branch has gotta have atleast 1 oz. The plants are 9-10 ft tall, with anywhere from 18-25 branches + Their tops, so I figure 16 -27 Oz, per plant. I am def going to be growing this strain again next season. If its alright with Julian, I will take some shots of these girls and post them in the next week or so. Also willing to throw up some shots of some of the other ladies, finishing up.

I found 3 phenotypes, in the JD's one grew quite large but leans more toward a sativa, with a lot of leaves flowing upward through the flowers, (vigourous, very sticky, and grew large flowers). Another pheno was approx. 70% Indi X 30% Sat, but the plants never grew tall, and the buds were average sized, (not a lot of vigour compared to the other two phenos), the last cut and my fav, was extremely vigourous, 90% Indica, grew very tall, will def harvest 1+lbs/per plant. possibly 1 3/4 on some ;). This pheno has been saved, and I will make a few mother plants from it, to take clones from next season. The buds on this plant heavily laden with trichs, and they shine exactly how a diamond would. Very large WHITE sparkles emitting from the flowers. I was in awe when I first seen these. I had been wondering why they were called Jorge's Diamond, now I know. After witnessing this diamond like sparkle from my chosen phenotype, I feel confident I found the best pheno to keep as a mother plant. I would recommend to everyone I know to grow this plant outdoors. I am more than impressed with her. Although half the battle has been won, and I still need to get the buds home, dried, and cured, I feel very confident that what damage is done, is done. And All losses from here on out will be minimal if at all. I am comfortable making that statement, and I know there is minimal chance of someone stumbling along what I have out now. One small percentage of chance is b/c of those Thieving archery hunters, that always seem to find a bit of my outdoor crop. No matter how well its hidden.
Good luck to everyone in getting their outdoor crops home, safe and secure.

Be safe

GFam
 

Ipsissimus

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Also meaning if occupied, and "normal" usage, utilizing the 1 per rule would double the draw ...(So if living there, would have to reduce and watch consumption....and would be over average, but, not by anything too significant if were on it......)

motivation for living "green" :)
 

Julian

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buddymate said:
Thank you Julian,I will put Maroc on my list of "Must-buy" for January when the new run is released onto the market :yes:
Well, of course always check any/everything out.....I must have run through 50 threads before I got them......(know overview, what to expect, etc), and, even after doing so, mine turned out different from those 50 I had read :biglaugh:, so.....I always read up quite a bit on any and everything I am thinking about running.....

Also of note is I thought I heard somewhere it was reworked a little.....so, of course, a second run may very well differ from the first.....("Improvements" tend to really piss me off....99.5% of the time it's a matter of "everything was fine before, and all the "improvements" actually fucked it up......I encounter this all the time....happens a lot with software, various hardware for various things, etc....they try and make it better and better, and in doing so, what was preferred is no more....cell phones always a good one...do virtually everything but give you a blow job, but still lose calls and can't hear/understand people :biglaugh:.....(a phone, right....but the focus is on what else it can do....:biglaugh:) Have had trading software that I had set up (took a long time also) only to log on one day and completely altered...couldn't even trade, had to kill it and had to find others..(has happened 3 times last 5-7 yrs), and on and on....(I have many cells....personally, I like the one I had 10yrs ago the best :smoke:...)

One of my pet peeves and fearful every time I see the "new" version of things...(anything.....)

I hope not the case with it, as really would like to run it again......have been thinking more and more since just discussed......suited me very well......(in the end)....would hate to secure stock, run second time, only to find out now completely different and doesn't behave as did originally...(Most likely.....that will be the case......)




lexxx said:
Julian,
thanks for your comprehensive notes. You are an inspiration.
My pleasure man....just doing my thing and trying to help with anything I can.....I get just as much inspiration from many things on site, so.....guess all just doing our part....



Guerilla Family said:
I picked up some Femed Jorge's Diamonds seed, a while back from a close friend. I didnt expect much from these seeds, but I used them for a few of my mother plants this last season. This strain is the most impressive strain from the lot, and the latest plots are already heavy with 1+ lbs/per plant. I learned from Julian to always estimate low, so u are never disappointed, and it makes for even more excitement when the final weight far exceeds your guesstimate! I started counting the massive arms for branches and I figured each branch has gotta have atleast 1 oz. The plants are 9-10 ft tall, with anywhere from 18-25 branches + Their tops, so I figure 16 -27 Oz, per plant. I am def going to be growing this strain again next season. If its alright with Julian, I will take some shots of these girls and post them in the next week or so. Also willing to throw up some shots of some of the other ladies, finishing up.

I found 3 phenotypes, in the JD's one grew quite large but leans more toward a sativa, with a lot of leaves flowing upward through the flowers, (vigourous, very sticky, and grew large flowers). Another pheno was approx. 70% Indi X 30% Sat, but the plants never grew tall, and the buds were average sized, (not a lot of vigour compared to the other two phenos), the last cut and my fav, was extremely vigourous, 90% Indica, grew very tall, will def harvest 1+lbs/per plant. possibly 1 3/4 on some ;). This pheno has been saved, and I will make a few mother plants from it, to take clones from next season. The buds on this plant heavily laden with trichs, and they shine exactly how a diamond would. Very large WHITE sparkles emitting from the flowers. I was in awe when I first seen these. I had been wondering why they were called Jorge's Diamond, now I know. After witnessing this diamond like sparkle from my chosen phenotype, I feel confident I found the best pheno to keep as a mother plant. I would recommend to everyone I know to grow this plant outdoors. I am more than impressed with her. Although half the battle has been won, and I still need to get the buds home, dried, and cured, I feel very confident that what damage is done, is done. And All losses from here on out will be minimal if at all. I am comfortable making that statement, and I know there is minimal chance of someone stumbling along what I have out now. One small percentage of chance is b/c of those Thieving archery hunters, that always seem to find a bit of my outdoor crop. No matter how well its hidden.
Good luck to everyone in getting their outdoor crops home, safe and secure.

Be safe

GFam
I think I've seen that here and there.........feel free to add whatever you like (but, I'd prefer if pics in links......very simple actually if you haven't done it before....insert link, and text in place also if you like, in the middle......when "inserting a link", will ask for address (of gallery page, larger pic), the will show address wrapped, and then address where it can be deleted and placed: any text you want here
Would be exactly as above.

Fuckin bow hunters :biglaugh:......I've had very little losses in general....all depends, depended......have had more last 2 yrs than the 20yrs before it...so...but that's the spots....so.....weren't good enough, and, is what it is.....



Ipsissimus said:
motivation for living "green" :)
Well....a live in, I mean, your basically on the line 24/7, as with most indoors (one of many reasons I started moving it all out).....so....want to keep as cool and safe and careful as possible, and, every little bit adds up.....a highly efficient 1k could bring in almost 40k+/- a yr...(flip it, and double that, etc...basing that on 2 per, 6 batches a yr.,12 total at $3k per....36k.....and some might be doing 4-5-6k+/- per, so....

All those little things always come together in the end and when all put together, can make quite a difference......

As above....when young, I had places with fridge unplugged, no dryer, no unused/unneeded lights on, appliances, electronics on, etc.....(I would actually sometimes raise power big time by leaving everything on, using everything all the time, even if just to boost the draw and then as op set up, cutting those down to nothing and switching it over, etc....Again...all depends on situation......but I wouldn't walk into a dead space and jump it from day one...but, again, depends on specific property, area, what it is, usage, etc.....if walking into something vacant, of course a jump natural, but not straight to high end.....ya know?..Again....depends on specific situation.....and, of course, just my opinion/thoughts.....what I prefer.....my freedom and safety most important.....minor inconveniences and stupid little things here and there well worth it to me :smoke:....

All risks always calculated.....more attention paid to potential issues, the less chance of having potential issues...big, small, in , out....across the board.....every action represents something....
 
Julian, we know the feeling.

Losing a good patch, one that produces for multiple years, will always suck.

It's the way of the world, so we adapt, improve tactics, and stay under the radar.

Had the seasons only seed patch ripped a few weeks ago, first loss in that vicinity.

( My own fault. The noise of a handle hitting an empty 5 gallon bucket was all it took. )

Scouting for next year has already begun.

... and the beat goes on ...
 

Groucho

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And on and on and on and it don't stop accumulating supplies scouting spots new and old prep and more prep but let's be honest most of us here live for this I know I do and not much in life compares to the explosion of emotions fueling another season. The dissapointment and anger of a failed attempt or costly lesson determined to return and redeem yourself to prove to yourself what you can do and will do but always better than before. The pure rush of adrenaline the mission the rewards it's in my blood. What's almost insane is knowing that even if I had "enough money" I'd still be spending my spring playing with dirt. After twenty something seasons some real good some real bad it's just what I do. Something inside us motivates weather it's love of cannabis,money,adventure or all three and then some. Taking the good with the bad is all part of doing business with mother nature lifes a gamble win lose or draw I'll be back next round! Good luck to everyone in these final days of the season. Grouch
 

HOVAH2.0

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HI JUELS,

IM BACK AFTER A LONG HARD AND DISAPPOINTING SUMMER, ALL MY PLOTS

WERE RIPED, I STARTED AN INDOOR JUST TO KEEP THE FLOW, HALF WAY

IN THE GROW A FIRE BURNED ALL MY EQUIPMENT, ALL MY MOTHERS, ALL MY CLONES.


TO ALL GROWERS; NEVER SMOKE KALI-MIST WHEN HANDLING ELECTRICITY. NEVER

I GOT MAYBE 2K IN CASH, NO PLACE TO LIVE AND NO JOB, NO MOTHERS NO SEEDS.

FUCK IT,

IM GROWING FULL TIME FROM NOW ON, JUST WAKE UP, TEND MY

PLANTS, GO BACK TO SLEEP. I LIVE IN GEORGIA, NOT MJ FRIENDLY STATE, WAS THINKIN

BOUT MOVING TO FLORDIA AND STARTING SOME MINIs OUTSIDE IN HOPES OF SALVAGING

SOMETHING THIS YEAR. OFCOURSE THATS AFTER I GET MORE SEEDS, 40DAY WAIT

,THINKIN BOUT FLYING TO TORONTO TO BUY UM, I HATE WANTING.

I VALUE YOUR JUDGEMENT AND EXPERIANCE, COULD YOU PLEASE DIRECT

ME , HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT I NEED TO DO TO WIN IN THIS GAME?? IM FEELING

REALLY DOWN THESE DAYS, DISCOURAGED.

THANKYOU
HOVAH2.0
 

Ipsissimus

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IN THE GROW A FIRE BURNED ALL MY EQUIPMENT, ALL MY MOTHERS, ALL MY CLONES.

apparently you have your health and your freedom. you have a lot to be thankful for! Don't be discouraged.

"Every wall is a door"

:)
 

HOVAH2.0

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WHAT ?

U DONT THINK IM GETTING LOCKED UP FOR THE FIRE, CANT THEY PROVE I WUZ

GROWIN. I HAVENT BEEN ASK ANY QUESTION ABOUT IT.
 

FirstTracks

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hovah......if you only have 2k in cash, no place to live, and no job.....why are you thinking about spending all that cash to fly to toronto to get seeds?
Seedbay takes 2 wks max usually and seeds will be 1/2 the price or even less, you don't have to cross international borders and go through security with them, and you don't have to spend money on a plane ticket.

Seems like its been a rough season for ya. I can understand why you're just coming uop with a lot of ideas that could get you out.

If you're planning on growing fulltime, why not go somewhere else besides florida? aren't they as bad or worse than georgia as far as laws?
 
"Will build right back up, 10 times stronger, 10 times wiser, 10 times better....."

J, no doubt about it, outdoor aint workin, you set up indoor, you trade stocks, you do something is the bottom line. But I think you might be the type of person that like's the process not necessarily the rewards. The fun is the game, if you were a selfish person you would have been set, but you have helped all those around you all noble things but the problem lies in that very few help you when you need it. Hell I'd bet that very few people even ask you how you are or if you need help. Just know that there are so of us sending good vibes your way as you have offered up so much info in this thread, truly you have helped me and I hope that all turns out well for you.

Be safe and harvest like a mofo.
 

HOVAH2.0

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HA THANKS STRAINHUNTER

BUT IF I ORDER EM, THEY WONT BRING THE FEDS TO MY PLACE, WILL THEY?

HOW DO YOU KNOW I CAN TRUST DEM?

DO YOU RECIEVE A COMMISSON FOR SALES FROM THIS TREAD?

WHAT IM TRYIN TO ASK IS, ARE YOU AN AGENT OR SALESMAN ? DONT NEED EITHER IN THIS TREAD?
AS THEY SAY IN DA STREETS U SOUND LIKE DA PO-PO
 

Strainhunter

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HA THANKS STRAINHUNTER

BUT IF I ORDER EM, THEY WONT BRING THE FEDS TO MY PLACE, WILL THEY?

HOW DO YOU KNOW I CAN TRUST DEM?

DO YOU RECIEVE A COMMISSON FOR SALES FROM THIS TREAD?

WHAT IM TRYIN TO ASK IS, ARE YOU AN AGENT OR SALESMAN ? DONT NEED EITHER IN THIS TREAD?
AS THEY SAY IN DA STREETS U SOUND LIKE DA PO-PO



If and since you're that paranoid about ordering seeds how are you handling the stress when it comes to growing?

A more mature post would have given you more credibility...:rolleyes:
 

antimatter

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oh my god look at this guys outdoor.. freakin insane, amazes me why somebody would put something like that up on youtube, crazy albertans. How the hell are they gonna trim all of that fuckk!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDdjGyUT1K4

check out the prep holy shit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4ATz3KVa38&feature=channel_page

heres the full channel its got a newer vid
http://www.youtube.com/user/da4ganja2creator0

I can't even imagine how much those guys must shit themselves whenever anything flys over, a plot that size would make your stomach turn 100x over.
 

Groucho

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Sorry about your luck HOVAH. But nothing in Strainhunters posts seem like the Po Po. Buying seeds mailorder is normal and flying out of the country to buy then smuggle them back is not. ESP with no money or place to live. Grow house burned in the fire? Your house? And no one questioned you? Lucky. Growing full time, Feds coming to your place? I thought you just lost it all in the grow. Ya lost me. IMHO I'd take some time to get my "shit" together. Lots of rebuilding to do. At least you still have the ol internet! Good luck with your future grows +life
Ps there is no win. It never ends. Only when your dead :)
Oh yeah. You win when you get a yacht right J. Hehe
Even then pirates, sharks, women and the IRS could turn you into a loser in minutes!
No man is an island!
 

dirt farmer

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oh my god look at this guys outdoor.. freakin insane, amazes me why somebody would put something like that up on youtube, crazy albertans. How the hell are they gonna trim all of that fuckk!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDdjGyUT1K4

check out the prep holy shit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4ATz3KVa38&feature=channel_page

heres the full channel its got a newer vid
http://www.youtube.com/user/da4ganja2creator0

I can't even imagine how much those guys must shit themselves whenever anything flys over, a plot that size would make your stomach turn 100x over.

A fly over these day would find those plants just as easy if they were hidden in the woods. so the thinking is. If they can find them easy under full camo then why hide them at all. Plant them in the open sun for now days they can find them hidden and in the open the same. now your playing a numbers game.

Thats being said WTF is going on there? That is just insane...

Shit that plot could handle about 100 rippers and all there friends and still have truck loads.
 

antimatter

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A fly over these day would find those plants just as easy if they were hidden in the woods. so the thinking is. If they can find them easy under full camo then why hide them at all. Plant them in the open sun for now days they can find them hidden and in the open the same. now your playing a numbers game.

Thats being said WTF is going on there? That is just insane...

Shit that plot could handle about 100 rippers and all there friends and still have truck loads.

lol ya the rippers would have a really difficult time ripping all those plants, im just trying to figure how there gonna trim it all, you would need 10 twister machines doing 20 lbs a day to get it done wet, what is there 500-1000 full size plants I don't know.

A fly over would easily pick that up around where I live, I wouldn't even know where to put all those plants without them getting cut down, the hunters would surely find them if you put them in a clear cut of any sort they like to camp those in the early morning with scopes etc. If you had a big enough greenhouse with odor control and non transparent walls/ceiling or super private farmland I suppose you could get away with it. I like that there doing it out in the open on a nicely cut lawn with perfect spacing it makes you wonder.
 
B

buddymate

I think he is taking a gamble and its paying off,wouldnt mind knowing the story behind it,good luck to him(not that it seems as if he needs any,looks like its all playing out beautifully for him).
 

antimatter

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From what i can see its 6 plants wide and probably 50-100 plants long on an edge of a clearing so give or take 300-600 full size plants spaced 8-10 feet apart.. I imagine 50-100 bales of promix used brought in from a rough dirt road maybe on the edge of private property with a steel culvert as a well that they fill up from somewhere are they watering with a hose I never saw any irrigation maybe buried?. Looks like alot of work in one spot would be a shame if they lose it. You can see two buildings in the far left on the other side of the field probably a house and a barn.

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from what i can see its 6 plants wide and probably 50-100 plants long on an edge of a clearing so give or take 300-600 full size plants spaced 8-10 feet apart.. I imagine 50-100 bales of promix with a steel culvert as a well that they fill up from somewhere.

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WHY ARE YOU JACKING THIS THREAD...Start your own thread for idle chatter... way of topic for this thread.
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