Except slander and libel BOTH deal w false statements against ones character. Again PRIVACY is a explicitly stated in neither. If there was a protection of PRIVACY, nothing that happens behind closed doors would be admissible without a warrant. Right to privacy becomes a slippery slope. Does a man have right to beat his wife behind closed doors? Or even better does Kavanaugh have a ‘right to privacy’ about all these baseless allegations? Absolutely NOT
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Except slander and libel BOTH deal w false statements against ones character. Again PRIVACY is a explicitly stated in neither. If there was a protection of PRIVACY, nothing that happens behind closed doors would be admissible without a warrant. Right to privacy becomes a slippery slope. Does a man have right to beat his wife behind closed doors? Or even better does Kavanaugh have a ‘right to privacy’ about all these baseless allegations? Absolutely NOT
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Took the liberty of borrowing this.
[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Peter Temin: why the middle class is vanishing in the US[/FONT]
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Total wealth held last year in the United States was almost $US63 trillion, almost treble the second richest nation - China with $US23 trillion.
Despite that, one highly regarded economist says the US has regressed to "developing nation" status.
Professor Peter Temin applies a well-known economic model to outline a two-track economy - one part educated people with good jobs, and another much larger sector where people are burdened with debt, anxious about their job - if they have one - and poorly paid.
In between is the middle class which, he says, is disappearing.
His latest book The Vanishing Middle Class - Prejudice and Power in a Dual Economy has been named one of the 10 best economics books of 2017.
Prof Temin, the Gray Professor Emeritus of Economics at MIT, Cambridge, Massachusetts says he wrote it before the election of Donald Trump, and the situation in the US is now much graver.
"The Republican Party which seems to go along with everything Donald Trump suggests had a tradition of fiscal responsibility, but they abandoned that to pass a tax cut that will cost the economy close to $US 2 trillion over the next ten years."
The two-track model comes from a theory devised by economist Arthur Lewis in the 1950s to analyse post-colonial countries. Lewis' theory was that in developing nations the capitalist sector grows by taking labour away from subsistence activities and paying low wages.
"In modern terms I call the capitalist sector the FTE (finance, technology and electronics) sector and the other the low wage sector."
Prof Temin's analysis of the US economy is tied closely to race and the politics of racism.
"The FTE sector is not interested in hiring very many of these low-wage people and so it keeps its power by condemning black and brown people to low wages."
Prof Temin says the Jim Crow laws of the south that kept blacks out of civil life still operate today under the guise of mass incarceration.
"We can see that in the racist policies that the government runs, the notion that Trump ran on Making America Great Again is an easy-to-parse motto of Make America White Again."
He says the middle class (or lower middle class) in America has been squeezed for the last 50 years .
Well paid manufacturing work is largely a thing of the past in the US.
"For approximately 50 years people have been losing jobs, that process is a slow process and so what you have today is people who are still doing okay but their children are having trouble finding jobs.
"The American experience that people had since the Second World War - that their children would have a better life than they had - is being negated in this 80 percent of the population."
Social mobility has all but stalled, he says.
"Most people are locked in, there are exceptional people who do well … but for most people, they can't.
He says in the modern world, education is the way out.
"But that is very hard, and the Trump government is trying to destroy the public school system to make it even harder."
Lewis described capitalists in developing nations in the mid-20th century as imperialists, and Prof Temin says the modern Republican Party is acting in a similar fashion.
"Imperialists didn't give a fig about what happened to the natives and this is the same kind of thing. What they [Republicans] like is very little government, they're really kind of anarchists at this point following the dictates of a Nobel prize winning economist James Buchanan who in 1973 wrote an article that said government was corrupt and so you either needed to have anarchy or dictatorship and so that's what these people are pursuing."
He says neglect of the US infrastructure is tearing up the nation's social capital.
"Putting people in jail, neglecting the educational system, having a lack of investment, destroying the social capital which brings people together while you're destroying the human capital by not [funding] the schools that alone will lead us to becoming a poor society, which the people at the top won't notice.
"The FTE sector are trying to reduce support for the American poor, so people in poverty in the US will tend to get poorer rather than getting better. That increases the difficulty of getting out of that situation into a higher and better life."
[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Professor Peter Temin's book The Vanishing Middle Class - Prejudice and Power in a Dual Economy is published by MIT Press.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Was told the 2 trillion in the tax giveaway works out to 1.4 billion a day.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] I feel the money would have been better spent on health care or infrastructure.
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[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Peter Temin: why the middle class is vanishing in the US[/FONT]
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Total wealth held last year in the United States was almost $US63 trillion, almost treble the second richest nation - China with $US23 trillion.
Despite that, one highly regarded economist says the US has regressed to "developing nation" status.
Professor Peter Temin applies a well-known economic model to outline a two-track economy - one part educated people with good jobs, and another much larger sector where people are burdened with debt, anxious about their job - if they have one - and poorly paid.
In between is the middle class which, he says, is disappearing.
His latest book The Vanishing Middle Class - Prejudice and Power in a Dual Economy has been named one of the 10 best economics books of 2017.
Prof Temin, the Gray Professor Emeritus of Economics at MIT, Cambridge, Massachusetts says he wrote it before the election of Donald Trump, and the situation in the US is now much graver.
"The Republican Party which seems to go along with everything Donald Trump suggests had a tradition of fiscal responsibility, but they abandoned that to pass a tax cut that will cost the economy close to $US 2 trillion over the next ten years."
The two-track model comes from a theory devised by economist Arthur Lewis in the 1950s to analyse post-colonial countries. Lewis' theory was that in developing nations the capitalist sector grows by taking labour away from subsistence activities and paying low wages.
"In modern terms I call the capitalist sector the FTE (finance, technology and electronics) sector and the other the low wage sector."
Prof Temin's analysis of the US economy is tied closely to race and the politics of racism.
"The FTE sector is not interested in hiring very many of these low-wage people and so it keeps its power by condemning black and brown people to low wages."
Prof Temin says the Jim Crow laws of the south that kept blacks out of civil life still operate today under the guise of mass incarceration.
"We can see that in the racist policies that the government runs, the notion that Trump ran on Making America Great Again is an easy-to-parse motto of Make America White Again."
He says the middle class (or lower middle class) in America has been squeezed for the last 50 years .
Well paid manufacturing work is largely a thing of the past in the US.
"For approximately 50 years people have been losing jobs, that process is a slow process and so what you have today is people who are still doing okay but their children are having trouble finding jobs.
"The American experience that people had since the Second World War - that their children would have a better life than they had - is being negated in this 80 percent of the population."
Social mobility has all but stalled, he says.
"Most people are locked in, there are exceptional people who do well … but for most people, they can't.
He says in the modern world, education is the way out.
"But that is very hard, and the Trump government is trying to destroy the public school system to make it even harder."
Lewis described capitalists in developing nations in the mid-20th century as imperialists, and Prof Temin says the modern Republican Party is acting in a similar fashion.
"Imperialists didn't give a fig about what happened to the natives and this is the same kind of thing. What they [Republicans] like is very little government, they're really kind of anarchists at this point following the dictates of a Nobel prize winning economist James Buchanan who in 1973 wrote an article that said government was corrupt and so you either needed to have anarchy or dictatorship and so that's what these people are pursuing."
He says neglect of the US infrastructure is tearing up the nation's social capital.
"Putting people in jail, neglecting the educational system, having a lack of investment, destroying the social capital which brings people together while you're destroying the human capital by not [funding] the schools that alone will lead us to becoming a poor society, which the people at the top won't notice.
"The FTE sector are trying to reduce support for the American poor, so people in poverty in the US will tend to get poorer rather than getting better. That increases the difficulty of getting out of that situation into a higher and better life."
[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Professor Peter Temin's book The Vanishing Middle Class - Prejudice and Power in a Dual Economy is published by MIT Press.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Was told the 2 trillion in the tax giveaway works out to 1.4 billion a day.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] I feel the money would have been better spent on health care or infrastructure.
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"The last 50 years the middle class has been squeezed."
This post provides some reasons why Americans voted Trump in office. It proves Obama and Hillary were wrong and America needed to be made great again. If the losing side would admit defeat and stop obstructing him, he could fix some things easier than under the current conditions.
Congratulations, that is the stupidest statement that I've seen on the internet today.
Defamation law goes back to the early 1500's, and it has absolutely nothing to do with privacy.
https://injury.findlaw.com/torts-and-personal-injuries/defamation-libel-and-slander-background.html
What about the election 2 years ago that one side of the country is still asshurt about? Inb4 muh Russia.... 2 years of investigation and still literally NOTHING on trump... this is the double standard so frequently ignored.
I decided not to quote the entire piece.
The reason for the decimation of the middle class is the wholesale demise of our manufacturing industries.
"He says in the modern world, education is the way out.
"But that is very hard, and the Trump government is trying to destroy the public school system to make it even harder.""
There is a large segment of the population for whom education will never be "the way out". Those people typically used to be employed in industry.
The rural western US used to have it's economic basis in the lumber industry or industries that supported it. That industry, just like steel and innumerable others, has been almost completely destroyed and NOTHING has taken it's place. 50% of the timber receipts that the USFS got from timber sales went to the schools within the district. The schools are broke, the populace is unemployed, and the forests are burning.
Take a guess where these enlightened policies originated, and I'll give you a little hint - it sure as hell wasn't with Trump.
An odd statement coming from someone with an understanding of Wurlitzer.
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]"The reason for the decimation of the middle class is the wholesale demise of our manufacturing industries."[/FONT]
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[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Any one have an idea what percentage of big pharma products are produced in China.
[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Can recall China as a stunningly beautiful and pristine place prior to Nixon.
[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Recall a time when there were those of each party that once advocated keeping a core of base industries in this country. [/FONT] [/FONT]
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[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Any one have an idea what percentage of big pharma products are produced in China.
[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Can recall China as a stunningly beautiful and pristine place prior to Nixon.
[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Recall a time when there were those of each party that once advocated keeping a core of base industries in this country. [/FONT] [/FONT]
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All The Lies Brett Kavanaugh Told
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/brett-kavanaugh-lies_us_5bb26190e4b027da00d61fcd
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/brett-kavanaugh-lies_us_5bb26190e4b027da00d61fcd
St. Phatty
Active member
Thank you on acknowledging achievement.
I noticed you are trying for the most arrogant trophy.
Looking good.
So it's a good thing the constitution was written so loosely as to be misinterpreted on accident, not just when bribed?
Good thing you haven't stepped up to the Supreme Court.
Get that trophy.
It will vastly increase your odds.
Agent Orange began posturing for failure yesterday with his comments about Kavanaugh's beer drinking testimony. Then he started rambling about how he doesn't drink, never did, and what an asshole he would be if he did drink. All I could think was, with without, same thing.
Next. Oh and take your time finding the next one.
Next. Oh and take your time finding the next one.
Looks like the few moderate democrats in the Senate are way down in the polls.
Heidekamp, Donnelly, Manchin look to be the sacrificial lambs. They have a choice vote against Kavanaugh and lose reelection, or vote for Kavanaugh and get cast out of the Democratic party. It's a lose lose situation. Either way the Democrats have put themselves in a pretty shitty situation.
I wouldn't mind seeing Kavanaugh lose the vote. So we can put a great conservative judge like Amy Barret Cohen on the court. Then the Democrats will really have to worry about Roe v. Wade.
Heidekamp, Donnelly, Manchin look to be the sacrificial lambs. They have a choice vote against Kavanaugh and lose reelection, or vote for Kavanaugh and get cast out of the Democratic party. It's a lose lose situation. Either way the Democrats have put themselves in a pretty shitty situation.
I wouldn't mind seeing Kavanaugh lose the vote. So we can put a great conservative judge like Amy Barret Cohen on the court. Then the Democrats will really have to worry about Roe v. Wade.
Thank you on acknowledging achievement.
I noticed you are trying for the most arrogant trophy.
Looking good.
So it's a good thing the constitution was written so loosely as to be misinterpreted on accident, not just when bribed?
Good thing you haven't stepped up to the Supreme Court.
Get that trophy.
It will vastly increase your odds.
I think that an if>then statement condemning those who have the temerity to disagree with your false interpretation of history probably bumps me out of contention for being the most arrogant.
Nah, Bc at that point Michael Avennetti will probably photoshop her face on stormy Daniels nude body, release it then the left will start screaming moral outrage. Actually, this sounds like a good troll campaign for that alt-right Tibetan sheep wool sweater weaving image board forum. Oh teh lulz
I'm interpreting intent not history.
The right to privacy exists.
They didn't exclude it nor is it nonexistent.
It doesn't take temerity to realize purpose in writings.
Although it certainly doesn't help.
The right to privacy exists.
They didn't exclude it nor is it nonexistent.
It doesn't take temerity to realize purpose in writings.
Although it certainly doesn't help.
You are constructing a straw man argument, not interpreting intent. No one said that the right to privacy does not exist, nor has anyone suggested that it shouldn't exist.
The argument was whether or not "privacy" was reason that the 4th Amendment was written, which is clearly horseshit. The 4th Amendment was written to protect against government overreach and to codify the sanctity of private property, and had nothing to do with tort law, libel, slander or privacy.
Over reach into what?
