Marijuana.com actively working with the police?

[okwildfire]

great! now im scaaaard! looking out my window right now.......

 

[Guest]

those darn sativa's :

 

[BigToke]

................I agree with 1963, you are just stirring up shit Ron ~ Marijuana.com/Hempcultivation.com was one of the very first places that I started leaning about growing; very smart and intelligent folks over that ~ and yes there is or was a member over there how was LEO and X-grower, I have spoken to him a many of time back in the day and under a different name and he was always cool to me and others………..he has made mention a many of times that the only growers that he is interested to busting is the big time dealer’s, I never had a problem with that maybe you do?

 

[.♠.]

Well,

I personally am glad that this info has been brought forward.

I do not know Ron or Rick.

I do know that it is not a good idea to directly tell a cop that you are growing. Now if he reads it on a forum so be it....but to directly talk with them is not a good idea.

Does this mean that they are going to come and knock down your door, probably not, but why risk it?

I do not say ban them, I do not say spend all day dogging them, I do say however that you should not openly welcome them into your midst.

Don't forget they have a job to do, regardless of how "buddy, buddy" they are while online.

Keep the Peace

 

[Guest]

remember me?

No bro, sorry I can't say that I do.

You slugged me a few times when I tried to get the Bio-Buckets going over on MJ.com,

You mean over at Hempcultivation? I remember when Krusty came over starting crap with his usual suave, smooth manner.
If you got caught up in that and I treated you unfairly, I do apologize.

I do know that it is not a good idea to directly tell a cop that you are growing.

Just to be clear, what Ron is talking about is that there are a couple LEO that participate over at the legalization forums at MJ.Com.
Not the growing forums.
They participate in the "protecting your rights" forum as well as some political threads.

Personally, I find their insight concerning rights protection to be valuable. It's always good to get a cops take on the interactions we have with them (if we are unlucky).
Plus, I still believe that the more we learn of each other (not talking giving personal details or anything), the more common ground we find, the faster we may finally turn the tide of prohibition. Or at least get the tide moving a bit faster if it's already turned.

RI recently approved their first Medical Marijuana application I believe...So slowly but surely, state by state we're getting there.
Nevada and Colorado next.

 

[BigToke]

Hummmm…………..yes I do mine HC.com, and no I was never caught up in the Krusty thing ~ as best I remember it was a thread concerning {pH} and I was explaining just how the Bio-Buckets handled with {pH} and even posted some pic’s in that threat but latter on a fella by the same name as yours said we were off topic, so I tried to remove those pic’s and never could and even PM’ed you about it but you were of NO help to me nor would you even respond to me…….what the shit!!!

If you are not that fella then disregard these post!! But I do believe you were a hydro-mod over there yes?

If it wasn’t for a hydro-mod call clinteastwood I would have NEVER come back over there.

Uhhh………..getting back to the subject at hand; don’t be fooled people there are LEO even here at IC, and I do believe that even Gypsy said that they would be crazy for not lurking here, you don’t know how your speaking with on these forums and that’s way you should only be discussing MJ-Growing and nothing else!!

 

[Lootpimpin]

plainsman = crusty gg lol

toke you are welcome at hc anytime bud

 

[Ron Bennett]

...I do know that it is not a good idea to directly tell a cop that you are growing. Now if he reads it on a forum so be it....but to directly talk with them is not a good idea.

Bingo!

Does this mean that they are going to come and knock down your door, probably not, but why risk it?

Well said

I do not say ban them, I do not say spend all day dogging them, I do say however that you should not openly welcome them into your midst.

Again, well stated.

I personally make no attempt to block them at any site I run, such as cann.com, since such websites are already a publicly available resource anyways...

DEA and all sorts of other government agencies, etc, and also various private investigative companies, visit all the major cannabis sites for information; to learn more about cannabis and the related culture.

Don't forget they have a job to do, regardless of how "buddy, buddy" they are while online.

Again, you're spot on - that's the point I've been trying to make for ages ... people who associate with law enforcement, especially when they're actively working, which both, from my understanding, phuzz01 and niteshift are, is asking for trouble...

Perhaps, nothing bad will happen, but one should certainly ponder why active law enforcement with knowledge / support of their superiors, including accessing from official police department computers, would be so actively involved at marijuana.com.

Perhaps their reasons for visiting marijuana.com are totally innocent, such as they're simply curious, bored, etc ...

But what if the situation changes ... they come to learn of some activity that they feel will enhance their career or whatnot ... ultimately, this comes down to loyalty - and unfortunately, both phuzz01 and niteshift have made no secret where their loyalty is ... they do not support legalization, and more the point, are swarn to enforce the laws of their jurisdiction*

* an interesting exercise for someone with plenty of time and search savvy - find out if there been an extraordinary large number and/or unusual pattern of cannabis / drug related busts, arrests etc associated with the jurisdictions of where phuzz01, niteshift, etc currently work / access marijuana.com from.

Ron

 

[Guest]

there's been an unusually large amount of pot arrests in my area thanks to a couple of k-9's...it's a privacy dilema the courts need to solve quick...how long until they can just walk around neighborhoods with a dog that points and that being probable cause for a search?

 

[Ron Bennett]

Personally, I find their insight concerning rights protection to be valuable. It's always good to get a cops take on the interactions we have with them (if we are unlucky).

A better source regarding "rights protection" would be an experienced defense attorney.

Police, by and large, are not known to protect rights - they're hired to enforce the law ... arrest first, ask questions later.

I agree with you though that learning more about their job / opinion is helpful, but, in my view, is of limited value unless it's balanced with information by defense attorneys, constitutional scholars, etc.

Plus, I still believe that the more we learn of each other (not talking giving personal details or anything), the more common ground we find, the faster we may finally turn the tide of prohibition. Or at least get the tide moving a bit faster if it's already turned.

Seems logical on the face, since the police are the ones who physically enforce prohibition laws ... but seeking common ground with the police, in respect to changing such laws, is a futile effort, since they don't write the laws...

Politicians, based in large part on viewpoints of their constituents (that includes the private sector; corporations, etc; big pharma), are the one's who hold the purse strings and ultimately dictate the laws which law enforcement are expected to enforce.

Finding "common ground" with politicians would make a big difference - however, when dealing with politicians, it's not logic that often prevails, but rather influence (via friendships, voter turnout, protests, etc), money, power, etc.

RI recently approved their first Medical Marijuana application I believe...So slowly but surely, state by state we're getting there.
Nevada and Colorado next.

Which is awesome

Ron

 

[palmspringsbum]

In California, at least, the major problem is that LEO is ignoring the fact that the law has changed.

Police, by and large, are not known to protect rights - they're hired to enforce the law ... arrest first, ask questions later.

Most of them don't have a clue what the law actually says, or is. Nor do they really care. Not when it's about marijuana. The law for them is like a menu, where you pick and choose the ones that help them do whatever it is they want to do.

In San Diego, Riverside and San Bernardino (San Bernardino actually has a policy of, essentially, ignoring H&S 11362.5 and H&S 11362.7) they wish they could find a way to overturn 215.

 

[Paranoid Blunts]

I stopped at " LEO brings a dimension to my community that you will find in no other similar community. They bring realism."

WTF? WTF?....f*** whoever that ***** is and same goes for the OINK OIKNS sad enough to go there. You accomodate LEO? even after LEO goes down? He's disgusting and might as well be a pig. All he's doing is endangering someone's freedom. snitch.

 

[BruceLeeroy]

Police, by and large, are not known to protect rights - they're hired to enforce the law ... arrest first, ask questions later.

Most of them don't have a clue what the law actually says, or is. Nor do they really care.

the irony is that their same cluelessness is what often lets people like us walk when they ignore the law and fuck up a search. lol.

peace

 

[SleepyAlligator]

That dude is crazy, the type of shit he is saying is ludicrous. In no way could I ever justify submission to the minions of babylon. The only dimension brought to his community if you ask me is fear. Whatever, to each his own.

 

[jdub420lg]

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[Verite]

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[pieceofmyheart]