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Many Forest Gorillas vs Several Forest and Well Tended Plants

green404

Member
So if we think how much satalite imaginary and software is being used by the govornment it's astounding

Their is a company north of Denver that has been creating satellite equipment for imagery and selling it to the gov and private companies, I think they are DigitalGlobe. Some of the stuff I saw in article was crazy, the resolution they have these days.. reading faces from space.

Along with the location data on mobile devices big brother could tap into your cell acct and watch you water plants if they really wanted to.
 

wvkindbud38

Elite Growers Club
Veteran
Their is a company north of Denver that has been creating satellite equipment for imagery and selling it to the gov and private companies, I think they are DigitalGlobe. Some of the stuff I saw in article was crazy, the resolution they have these days.. reading faces from space.

Along with the location data on mobile devices big brother could tap into your cell acct and watch you water plants if they really wanted to.

I'm starting to think some of the stuff in the movies is more real than we think....and maybe exceedingly greater than thought.
 

green404

Member
I'm starting to think some of the stuff in the movies is more real than we think....and maybe exceedingly greater than thought.


Yeah, years ago when someone said Big brother will watch our every more in the future, people would say "paranoia" "conspiracy freak".

That future is here. our every move/location data is being harvested and stored. All the messages we send are collected and stored, they are even talking about the "legalities" of listening and recording our every conversation in our living rooms tru our own devices.

20 years ago people would say "it will never happen" Now/today the average person just says "who cares" "what are you hiding"
 

JustSumTomatoes

Indicas make dreams happen
Their is a company north of Denver that has been creating satellite equipment for imagery and selling it to the gov and private companies, I think they are DigitalGlobe. Some of the stuff I saw in article was crazy, the resolution they have these days.. reading faces from space.

Along with the location data on mobile devices big brother could tap into your cell acct and watch you water plants if they really wanted to.

Big brother is too busy getting caught sending dick pics and posting threats about euthanizing former drug dogs to mount an effective global spy operation on a handful of gardeners.
 

Easy7

Active member
Veteran
Don't bring a cell phone, thanks to cell tower trianglating and stingray servielance. If they find a grow they can look to see who was in the area. As for stingray that's much more targeted type of activity.

Bring a fariday pouch for the phone.
 

green404

Member
Big brother is too busy getting caught sending dick pics and posting threats about euthanizing former drug dogs to mount an effective global spy operation on a handful of gardeners.


I am sure they don't care about a handful of gardeners these days, not in these parts any way. But they are still trying to collect a "budget" from "cartel" growers.

Don't bring a cell phone, thanks to cell tower trianglating and stingray servielance. If they find a grow they can look to see who was in the area. As for stingray that's much more targeted type of activity.

Bring a fariday pouch for the phone.

In the US cell providers are required to keep location and data records for at least 1 year. I think most western countries have similar polices. So if the mayor son was found dead they would look up who was there. If a crack head was found dead , they probably would not bother.

Here in Colorado cannabis plants are a low priority but when they find hundreds of them they call the DEA and they have access to cell records.
 

DoubleTripleOG

Chemdog & Kush Lover Extraordinaire
ICMag Donor
IME, if your worried abuot the cops tracking you, you more than likely are into a lot heavier stuff than weed. That or you are already being watched for doing stupid shit(selling to kids, bragging about your grow).

Just stay low key and leave the phone at home, or take the battery out, if you're that paranoid about LEO tracking you. When I got popped growing inside, the cops had no idea who I was or what I was doing. Because I keep things low key. My wife's scumbag loser, baby shaking piece of shit son is what got me busted. Had a warrant for him and he ran. Cops came to my house while I wasn't home lokign for him, and found my grow, while they were trespassing.
 

TychoMonolyth

Boreal Curing
Don't bring a cell phone, thanks to cell tower trianglating and stingray servielance. If they find a grow they can look to see who was in the area. As for stingray that's much more targeted type of activity.

Bring a fariday pouch for the phone.

You should be more worried about google. They can predict with 95% accuracy who is growing, and probably have a really good shot at where you're growing. But if you know you're being watched, it's pretty easy to manipulate their data.

A VPN will help as long as you keep your personal stuff and VPN stuff separate. The only way to do it conveniently is to have two PCs.
 

wvkindbud38

Elite Growers Club
Veteran
Paranoia is gonna drive some of these people completely insane. Lose the internet,cell phones, all utilities and live in a cave.....that's the only way you'll ever keep the govornment and whoever from finding out things about you and yours actions/way of life
 

green404

Member
Paranoia is gonna drive some of these people completely insane. Lose the internet,cell phones, all utilities and live in a cave.....that's the only way you'll ever keep the govornment and whoever from finding out things about you and yours actions/way of life


Some people just can't go a hour without a mobile device linked to all the social media. Selfies, likes, tag me.

It's really not that hard to leave a device at home or in the car for an hour. "Check in" at the mall and your "followers" will still think you are cool. It's not a cave, just a short break ?
 

TychoMonolyth

Boreal Curing
I keep my phone with me all the time. I go a lot of places. On and Off road. Repeatedly. So they can knock themselves out. Mind you, I'd probably leave my phone at home if I was out at a grow at 2am. But I don't see myself being anywhere else other than asleep at that time.
 

wvkindbud38

Elite Growers Club
Veteran
My cell don't get a signal were I live out in the boonies lol. I about died when I first moved back here from Chicago. But I use the compass on my phone in the Mtns ....also use it to get on the internet....just no sig to call people. But I've got used to it after I few yrs lol....I don't have nobody I wanna call anyway. It's good to have though. I'm almost 1-1.5 hrs from cell service lol
 

repuk

Altruistic Hazeist
Veteran
WV, if you can connect to Internet you could use voip to call, or free voice/video calls via
whatsapp, Skype or similar service.

How do you get internet? Satellite?

You won't believe how cheaply and reliably you could deploy a point to point wireless link given is orographically/physically feasible. Ot deploy high quality cameras in the wild linked back either wirelessly or if data service is available, via mobile 3G/4G/LTE.
 

TychoMonolyth

Boreal Curing
A buddy just bought a hobby farm so I gave him 10 plants as a home warming gift. We dug 3x3 holes and mixed up some soil for them. We planted them behind a 100 year old chicken coop (20x40) with south-east exposure, exactly where the manure pile used to be. You can dig a foot deep with your hands. 5 are offset enough to give them sun from sunup to sundown with zero shade. It's gonna be fun watching them max out in that spot.
 

MountainBudz

⛽🦨 Kinebud and Heirloom Preservationist! 🦨 ⛽
Paranoia is gonna drive some of these people completely insane. Lose the internet,cell phones, all utilities and live in a cave.....that's the only way you'll ever keep the govornment and whoever from finding out things about you and yours actions/way of life

I used to be extremely paranoid. I still done the guerilla game even so. I think the reason I was so paranoid when I first started growing for a few years is because most of my guerilla plots I had to be on the highway in a vehicle to access... Carrying huge amounts of plants. Over time I have worked hard and I have earned a new home and over a hundred acres of my own. Point is, I'm not on the road anymore having to drive... I can access almost any part of my county from my backyard via ATV or foot, a vehicle isn't required anymore. Although I have a couple plots outside of the county I am not constantly on the road anymore. I have been thru traffic stops while hauling plants, ran out of gas, been passed by the popo while their lights was on with a SUV full of one foot clones... However that night they were in route somewhere other than me.

The only thing anymore that gives me the rush is being out working my plots during the day when the Blackhawks pop up overhead. Sometimes you can't even hear them coming until they are so close you have to decide instantly where to take cover and hide. Some folks got busted a couple counties over last year by the KSP. They were out watering their crops in the broad daylight, mid day (which is the worse time when you have fly overs)... The chopper spotted them in the "patch" and seen the 4 wheelers. They got busted red handed with a large number of plants.

I do investigate the local and federal KY cannabis suppression programs. I know they don't put the birds in the air until between 8 and 9 am. I am always out those hours and start heading back around 9 or 10 the very lastest. Then they head back to base around 3 or 4. They have several birds at the post which all fly out around the state to designated areas. Then at the end of the day you sometimes see them flying formation back to their post. Then certain parts of the years you have more than the black Hawks. You have a lot of private contracted helis and planes as well. Also ground units and if they they are flying somewhere inaccessible by land (as they call the ground unit in when they spot patches) then they rappel down one by one and chop it up, throw it in a tarp, wrap it up and bundle it then pull it back into the chopper and away they go. If it is a large plot, they will sometimes set up surveillance cameras and even go as far as camping on the plot.

So basically I avoid them by working early morning, late evening and after dark. I have a very fucked up schedule and a lot of people think I am crazy staying up till 7am, but little do they know what kind of extreme work and hard ass labor I am going thru. Better they not know, for sure ;).


Paranoia will destroy your will to grow if you are a guerilla grower. I learned this the hard way. Anyone that needs any help getting past something or an issue with this devestating issue please feel free to PM me and I will go more in depth about this, how it screwed me up for more than 4 years and how now I have learned not to give a shit and pumping out plants like a fuckin conveyer belt at a 3 shift factory day and night.

:tiphat:
 

MountainBudz

⛽🦨 Kinebud and Heirloom Preservationist! 🦨 ⛽
A buddy just bought a hobby farm so I gave him 10 plants as a home warming gift. We dug 3x3 holes and mixed up some soil for them. We planted them behind a 100 year old chicken coop (20x40) with south-east exposure, exactly where the manure pile used to be. You can dig a foot deep with your hands. 5 are offset enough to give them sun from sunup to sundown with zero shade. It's gonna be fun watching them max out in that spot.

That was very considerate of you Tycho. I love your passion for the plant. We are one of a kind in heart, of the same blood. We bleed green and we keep giving. I know the past few years have been hard for me, tons of personal issues had taken hold and chained me down. I broke free finally and have moved on, I am paying all my debts and returning a shit ton of favors every day.
 

MountainBudz

⛽🦨 Kinebud and Heirloom Preservationist! 🦨 ⛽
My cell don't get a signal were I live out in the boonies lol. I about died when I first moved back here from Chicago. But I use the compass on my phone in the Mtns ....also use it to get on the internet....just no sig to call people. But I've got used to it after I few yrs lol....I don't have nobody I wanna call anyway. It's good to have though. I'm almost 1-1.5 hrs from cell service lol

I too have this problem where I am located. I have no service period, always on WiFi at home and spotty service in the mountains and very rarely will I ever pick a bar up lol... People don't realize how rural and non-technological the Appalachia truly is. We are definitely in a world of our own, about 20 years or so behind everyone else in the world. But I wouldn't trade it for nothing. I love guerilla growing and it is the only thing that makes me feel right and free inside. Its all I know. We can't get cable where I am, can't get DSL, can't get shit. Lol.
 

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