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Many Forest Gorillas vs Several Forest and Well Tended Plants

TychoMonolyth

Boreal Curing
I have 2 that are little rogues and expressing their own phenotype in grand, or should I say diminutive fashion at a whopping 10-12 inches tall, flowered at about day 21 from seed, very dark green, and only one single cola. No branching. Perfect for a window flower box. lol (I've seeded them :tiphat:)

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TychoMonolyth

Boreal Curing
Man you couldn't ask for a better grow site. Mine is nice but it's on a hillside, plus I'm had to cut a ton of trees and brush to get enough sunlight. I'd like to post the before and after pics post clean up but for security reasons I wont

It's a good spot, but it's a newbie error for not having evaluate it mid summer last year. Next year I'm using an strimmer if I need it mid grow, and definitely Roundup this fall to clear the site. The grass is just insane at 4 1/2 feet high, then it falls over ffs. So it doesn't matter how much care I took clearing individual spots for plants. There's a few plants I can't find because of it. lol. I won't be making that mistake again.

I used Roundup last fall on the tall stuff growing behind the barn during my summer cleanup. The big stuff died and is replaced this year by short ground cover. Perfect. So I'll spray my really big site this summer for next year because I want to try out for the pros. :biggrin:
 

Creeperpark

Well-known member
Mentor
Veteran
ticks

ticks

I don't mean to change the subject just wanted to share something i learned from 2017. Last year I had been bitten by ticks so bad that I couldn't tell ticks from old tick scabs. I would feel something and when I would grab it, and pick it off, sometimes a tick and sometimes a tick scab. At one time my ole lady counted 22 tick bites on me at one time. Thankfully. However i found something that really works in repelling ticks! Coleman Insect Treatment, for gear and clothing. It stopped all ticks bites! Not one tick bite this year! Its tick season and I've been out in the woods every weekend since spring not one tick bite! Just spray your clothes and shoes. You don't even put it on your skin!
That DEEP WOODS Off didn't do anything and was a waste of time and money.
 

TychoMonolyth

Boreal Curing
I don't mean to change the subject just wanted to share something i learned from 2017. Last year I had been bitten by ticks so bad that I couldn't tell ticks from old tick scabs. I would feel something and when I would grab it, and pick it off, sometimes a tick and sometimes a tick scab. At one time my ole lady counted 22 tick bites on me at one time. Thankfully. However i found something that really works in repelling ticks! Coleman Insect Treatment, for gear and clothing. It stopped all ticks bites! Not one tick bite this year! Its tick season and I've been out in the woods every weekend since spring not one tick bite! Just spray your clothes and shoes. You don't even put it on your skin!
That DEEP WOODS Off didn't do anything and was a waste of time and money.
You're not off topic at all. Thanks for the solution. I'll try that. OFF works for mosquitoes but not for ticks at all.

This Coleman Insect Treatment?
 

wvkindbud38

Elite Growers Club
Veteran
Guys I'm been checking myself for ticks all season. I've stayed back in the Mtns under trees and keeping expecting to find a tick on me. I know I'm gonna jinx myself saying this but I've dodged those F-ers so far. I don't have much hair but I still check all the time/daily when I come outta the thick.


Yea Tycho the weeds and brush take us over down here. But the grass is easy for us, but the dang brush like briars, small poplars and twigs absolutely take us over. It's hell on weedeater heads and rope. I keep a weedeater running all the time trying to stay in front. Even my grow plot I like it grew up but I have to cut some in it to keep from getting overgrown and snake bite if I'm not careful. That thick grass like you guys have I'm sure will burn a weedeater head up too it looks thick
 

TychoMonolyth

Boreal Curing
I have 2 heads for my trimmer. One for my lawn, and one for brush. Snap on, snap off. Strings are for lawns and don't survive in the wild.
 

Bud Green

I dig dirt
Veteran
Tics are really bad where I live...

Buy a small bag of powered sulfur... Put some in an old sock and tie the end shut..

When you go out, beat the sulfur sock against the top of your shoes,
on your socks and pant legs... You'll see the light yellow dust on yourself

it will keep most ticks and chiggers off of you...

I posted this here about 4 weeks ago..I've been using this method for more than 25 years....
I really don't like spraying DEET or other strong chemicals on my skin or clothing...

If you try my tip with the sulfur in a sock, I think you will find that it works pretty darn well....for ticks and chiggers...
You can put the sock in a zip-lock baggie and carry it with you, so you can re-apply it on extended walks thru the woods...

PS.. you can buy the powdered sulfur in almost any garden supply store, farmer's co-op, or most hardware stores..
 

TychoMonolyth

Boreal Curing
I posted this here about 4 weeks ago..I've been using this method for more than 25 years....
I really don't like spraying DEET or other strong chemicals on my skin or clothing...

If you try my tip with the sulfur in a sock, I think you will find that it works pretty darn well....for ticks and chiggers...
You can put the sock in a zip-lock baggie and carry it with you, so you can re-apply it on extended walks thru the woods...

PS.. you can buy the powdered sulfur in almost any garden supply store, farmer's co-op, or most hardware stores..

I saw it in the Local Co-Op a week ago while I was picking up some MAP and Potash. I'll get some now for sure.

BTW, I just found this on it:
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Sulphur
Use: Fungicide
In its native form, sulphur is an abundant, yellow crystalline solid. It can be found as the pure element and as sulphide and sulphate minerals. It is an essential element for life and is found in two amino acids. In agriculture, its uses are primarily as a livestock supplement, fertilizer, insecticide and fungicide.

Sulphur is probably the oldest known pest management product in use. The Greek poet, Homer, described the benefits of “pest-averting sulphur” 3,000 years ago. The Greeks also recognized its efficacy against rust diseases on wheat.

Benefits
Prevents powdery mildew, rose black spot, scab, rusts, and other diseases. (Sulphur prevents fungal spores from germinating, so it must be applied before the disease develops for effective results.)
Can be used as a dust, wettable powder, paste or liquid.
Controls red mites in tomato, citrus and other widespread crops when sulphur dioxide is at high concentrations. Other insects affected include white fly, thrips, some Homoptera, and gall midges.


Directions for Use
Important Note: Sulphur fungicides are available in several formulations, and directions for use will vary. Always consult the product label for application requirements related to specific products.

The following directions apply to Safer's Sulphur Dust Fungicide and Miticide (PCP #19703).

Vegetables, fruits, and flowers
For the control of powdery mildew, rust, black spot, and scab. May be dusted directly onto plants or bulbs, or mixed with water for foliar spray application. For a liquid spray, mix at a rate of 10 g/Litre of water (1.3 oz/gal). Agitate while spraying to avoid settling.

Apples, Pears: Apply from green tip to first cover spray. Reduce rate to one half for subsequent sprays. Do not use on Anjou or Comice pears.
Cherry (sweet and sour): Apply in scheduled protective spray program from bloom to harvest.
Grapes and Strawberries: Apply at first sign of mildew and repeat every ten days if necessary. Do not use on Concord grapes or other sensitive varieties.
Currants and Gooseberries: Apply before earliest blossoms and continue through harvest.
Beans, Peas: Spray or dust on appearance of disease and repeat at 7 to 10 day intervals as necessary.
Tomato: Spray or dust when the fruit begins to set.
Roses, Flowers, Ornamentals: Dust or spray every 7 to 10 days through the season.
Precautions
Can be used up to one day before harvest on all crops except wine grapes which require a 21 day interval.
Do not apply at temperatures 24° C or higher. Do not apply to cucumbers, melon and squash.
Do not apply within 30 days of oil sprays.

Packaging
Safer's Sulphur Dust Fungicide and Miticide (PCP #19703)


Safety
Keep sulphur dust to a minimum as it readily catches fire.
Keep away from flames or sparks.
Ground any handling equipment to avoid static electricity.
Avoid breathing fumes from sulphur fires.
Do not mix with chlorates, nitrates or other oxidizing agents that may contribute to explosions.
Sulphur will react with alkalis or alkaline earths.
Sulphur may irritate nasal passages, skin and eyes.
Wash liberally with mild soap and water.
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Thanks GB. I'm on this now and will dust my plants with it on my visits.
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TychoMonolyth

Boreal Curing
Wow. Just love those bins.

Do you have a cut off date for putting them out, or do you go all the way to solstice (which would trigger flowering right away)?
 

TychoMonolyth

Boreal Curing
Good god man.... I've never seen anything near that.

Here I was patting myself on the back for the odd root sticking out the pot by 3 inches. lol
 

repuk

Altruistic Hazeist
Veteran
Latest we put them out was mid-july mate,roots are popping out of the pots :tiphat:



:bigeye: Do you use anything as rooting stimulator? that's soil right? Funny they don't look any suspicious at that age on boxes… look like any other box of leafy seedlings you see around once spring comes ;)

Fine photography as always, love the seedlings perspective by the low-angled shot with the diagonal vanishing points, impactful as always! :tiphat:

Love those bins too, cannot have enough, though yours look pro (you've got good taste for equipment bro!), and seem to be tougher than mine.

All I used to temporarily "camperize" a van once was plenty those bins, and a mattress… this one for this, this one for that, stack by usage, and you're all set, I think it has been the most organized and most efficient time of my life :laughing:

They're incredibly light… flatten like nothing when not in use saving precious volume, and double as building blocks for temporary structures… only creativity is the limit.

btw really liked the inverted seats as trimming bowl holder!
 

TychoMonolyth

Boreal Curing
Eeeek!

Eeeek!

At 5:27 p.m. EDT, Environment Canada meteorologists are tracking a line of severe thunderstorms capable of producing very strong wind gusts and up to nickel size hail.

I'm just east from this. But I do have a couple dozen plants on the cusp. Hope I escape with only the storm. It's due to hit at 6:15.

it's here and it's violent. lol
 

Easy7

Active member
Veteran
I don't think I would put all my plants in one open field. Sooner or later someones gonna find those. When I bury plants in the bushes, you gotta be damn motivaed to go see whats there. You could walk by and never even guess to look. I hide 3D style. Only by being directly between the sun and plants, are they visable. That's all the plants need.
 

TychoMonolyth

Boreal Curing
When staking my plots, I give them a 1 to 5 risk rating (low-high). Only a few are 1, most are 3s and I can live with that. Ironically, the biggest can handle ~15k and it's only a 2 but I didn't put any there. 90% are out in full sun from 5:30am to sundown. I have some in a small forest clearing but they suck lemons. Terrible spot. Not going back no matter how convenient it is. Mind you... it's still early so...
 

TychoMonolyth

Boreal Curing
I was checking on a seed lot at 5:30 this morning and heard a chopper coming my way and I was like "fuck off... never see anything but an air ambulance for 5 years and now this?" It flew by at about 750 feet but it was only a corporate chopper, not LEO.
 

Biosynthesis

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Thanks for a great topic!! I have given a lot of thought to this subject through the years. I am retired now but I used to grow more than a few plants in the backyard. Anyhow heres my school of thought, Grow a few plants and take extremely good care of them. The reason being is Federal Law. getting caught with fewer plants is a bonus no matter the size. Going over 50 plants puts you in the federal bracket and the feds are liable to pick it up. Even if they don't the state will be more lenient with just 3 plants even if they were 3 lbs each.three seemed to be the perfect number of plants in a plot. shoot for 10 lbs but 5 is more realistic untill you get more experienced like me ;) Location is everything. If a spot felt safe I would grow in the same spot for several years reusing the same soil over and over. If it felt really safe I would bring in an extra 49 clones in july for a quick 5 lbs in October. Have a safe and fun grow season folks and don't forget to pick up your trash.
 

TychoMonolyth

Boreal Curing
Thanks for a great topic!! I have given a lot of thought to this subject through the years. I am retired now but I used to grow more than a few plants in the backyard. Anyhow heres my school of thought, Grow a few plants and take extremely good care of them. The reason being is Federal Law. getting caught with fewer plants is a bonus no matter the size. Going over 50 plants puts you in the federal bracket and the feds are liable to pick it up. Even if they don't the state will be more lenient with just 3 plants even if they were 3 lbs each.three seemed to be the perfect number of plants in a plot. shoot for 10 lbs but 5 is more realistic untill you get more experienced like me ;) Location is everything. If a spot felt safe I would grow in the same spot for several years reusing the same soil over and over. If it felt really safe I would bring in an extra 49 clones in july for a quick 5 lbs in October. Have a safe and fun grow season folks and don't forget to pick up your trash.

It's an awesome retirement hobby and will keep you're mind and body in shape. It's all but impossible to get nailed for gorilla growing here. Having said that, I do know someone who got caught and he confessed when they tackled him on site ("how'd you catch me" idiot). He was definitely not the sharpest knife in the drawer and always bragging about what he was doing so I could see it coming. The only way to get caught is to be a loud mouth braggart. I grow a lot of plants for one person (~350), enough to keep me busy as fuck, and only my wholesaler knows I grow.

I stumbled on another 20 photo and 30 auto seeds so they'll be going in the ground July 1st. The photos are going in a totally open area in pure forest humus. The autos have a spot in an irregular corn field planting to keep them hidden from above. With corn only about 8 inches high, it's easy to see where the seeder messed up.

These are examples of messed up corn planting. It happens in every field, but you have to find it early or you'll never see it once it starts growing hard.
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If you ever decide to plant in a corn field, only plant Autoflowers (or Super Autos), and definitely DON'T do it like these idiots.
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If you absolutely know that the corn field is a SEED crop and not a feed crop (silage), then you can plant early Photos (7-8 week flowering) with minimal risk.
 
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