Malawi Style Cob Curing.

[Tangwena]

Tangwena..
Thank you again…

I’m still trying to cobble together the fundamental instructions you’ve given to put the cobs together..
I’m on about day 6 for a preliminary dry phase..plants are hanging, no snap to the stem as of yet.
Once the pass the “Snap test”..I’ll wrap them in corn husks and vacuum seal and sweat them at 40 deg for 24 hrs..(sounds good or better to increase or reduce sweat time?)
Remove from vac bag to reduce excess moisture…
Should I be drying the cobs again for a short period (how long?) before vacuum sealing again and curing for the long haul..3+ months

Thanks again for spreading the love with what you’ve learned not to mention passing along the lab tests

Best Regards..

Toast

I think Hombre is spot on less is more I would do one cob with no sweat and one with 6hrs maximum sweat time just to start it off.
Everyone has different climatic conditions in mine in summer it dries very fast in winter very slowly only experience will tell you what suites your location.
I have got excellent results with no starting sweat at all if as Hombre says you cure at 30c or in my case 35c it will work without sweating its just slower.
But slow and low is good for keeping maximum terps or at least modified terps that smell out of this world.

 

[Tangwena]

Wouldn’t overly fuss on the specifics gents; recognize cob curing is as much an art form as anything….

What’s up brother T

Hi brother totally agree everyone and every situation is different.
This gives unlimited variation to the cure and lets people who understand it shine with unlimited possibilities in the end result.
I have no doubt experienced curers can and will and do produce cures that showcase their flowers in ways others can not reproduce.
Thats the beauty of this cure its yours and unique in every way viva la difference.

 

[Tangwena]

Are these for the cobs? If so, it seems like there isn't a lot of decarboxylation of THCA to d9-THC during the cobbing that's quite surprising.

Also wow crazy high THC on the Juanita La Lagrimosa 3, also surprising.

As I said I have no way of knowing how good any of the cobs were but yes they were for flowers and cobs of the same plant.
The increase in Delta 9 could partly explain the beautiful effects from chewing.
But I am sure there are other compounds ect produced going by the aromas of cured cobs that are not tested for or even known about.

 

[exploziv]

I guess testing before and after would be the key. But I am happy we can see even those!

 

[ledo]

I agree entirely; But for beginners, I think having a set of guidelines helps, at least until one starts to develop one's own way of doing things. Certainly for me it helped.

That’s all buried in my post; you just don’t know me enough yet - (overly - specifics) - I agree completely with you…

Hi brother totally agree everyone and every situation is different.
This gives unlimited variation to the cure and lets people who understand it shine with unlimited possibilities in the end result.
I have no doubt experienced curers can and will and do produce cures that showcase their flowers in ways others can not reproduce.
Thats the beauty of this cure its yours and unique in every way viva la difference.

our flowers our cure our ways -you get a warm & fuzzy, you get a warm & fuzzy, you, yes you… warm & fuzzy…. And nah, that isn’t mold, it’s the warm & fuzzies

 

[ledo]

I guess testing before and after would be the key. But I am happy we can see even those!

I swear I’ve seen both….

The increase in Delta 9 could partly explain the beautiful effects from chewing.
But I am sure there are other compounds ect produced going by the aromas of cured cobs that are not tested for or even known about.

Something is certainly different !

Fermentation changes things, period, hard to argue that… ratios, new combos, things increase, others decrease, new arise….?

Often, perhaps most often, maybe always…. POI is more about what’s not muddying things quality up vs lack of quality…. I believe cobbing not only refines the good but when done proper most often dumps the bad…. Fermentation of anything is an art form, those old tobacco papers @ fermentation (literature on ) are art too imo…

Trippy cannabis near always is clean cannabis, if / when measured by the parameters often used today that is…

How you consume your cob matters too imo

 

[StickyBandit]

After reading some of the instructions in the last few comments I've taken the cobs out of the vacuum bags for inspection and further drying
The 3 MxPCKs smell of yeast and berries so I'll leave them out for a day or so to dry
The small KA5H bud that's been in the bag a week or so now was dry enough and smells a little of lemon pepper. It can go back in the curing box @28°c for a while

 

[goingrey]

As I said I have no way of knowing how good any of the cobs were but yes they were for flowers and cobs of the same plant.
The increase in Delta 9 could partly explain the beautiful effects from chewing.
But I am sure there are other compounds ect produced going by the aromas of cured cobs that are not tested for or even known about.

Yes, an increase in d9-THC would explain it and what I would have expected to see in the lab results. But that is not the case. They were high in THCA and low in d9-THC.

It seems like there are four reports in your post but it's just the same two reports posted twice. Is there maybe some issue with my web browser or could it be that you accidentally posted the "before" results twice?

 

[funkyhorse]

Hi @burningfire , do you have any examples of other cultures that process their weed? I'm an avid cobber, but would love to learn of other ways of curing. Thanks

Hola Hombre
I am interested in other cultures cures as well and I hope you guys dont mind but I think this is the right thread for this stuff
I certainly would love to know how Punto Rojo was processed back in the day
It is clear that like hash, you get in your cob/brick what you put in
This is the traditional way of making brick for the south american and probably world number 1 producer, hopefully different traditional producers from this planet can inspire new curing methods

The box above is a 5kg cube, this processing is good for transportation of large quantities and this was the main reason ganja was always bricked

Final product(today is garbage but this producing method seems to be the same as always. How you treat your end product also makes a huge difference). Many times it is hidden buried in the ground. The time is staying buried in tropical weather is fermenting so this weed always had natural fermenting in the 20th century
Did anyone try burying the cobs?

Had a nice weekend everybody

 

[Tangwena]

Yes, an increase in d9-THC would explain it and what I would have expected to see in the lab results. But that is not the case. They were high in THCA and low in d9-THC.

It seems like there are four reports in your post but it's just the same two reports posted twice. Is there maybe some issue with my web browser or could it be that you accidentally posted the "before" results twice?

Yes I was freaking out on some cob and things got doubled up and I couldn't be bothered deleting them.
One is the bud and one is the cob of the same plant. The low delta 9 is the bud the higher delta 9 is the cob.

 

[Tangwena]

Hola Hombre
I am interested in other cultures cures as well and I hope you guys dont mind but I think this is the right thread for this stuff
I certainly would love to know how Punto Rojo was processed back in the day
It is clear that like hash, you get in your cob/brick what you put in
This is the traditional way of making brick for the south american and probably world number 1 producer, hopefully different traditional producers from this planet can inspire new curing methods
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The box above is a 5kg cube, this processing is good for transportation of large quantities and this was the main reason ganja was always bricked

Final product(today is garbage but this producing method seems to be the same as always. How you treat your end product also makes a huge difference). Many times it is hidden buried in the ground. The time is staying buried in tropical weather is fermenting so this weed always had natural fermenting in the 20th century
Did anyone try burying the cobs?
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Had a nice weekend everybody

In Malawi some cobs were buried to cure in some areas it was different in each area.
Those bricks look good to me just the same as some cures in Africa.

 

[exploziv]

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I took out the extra ones. You telling us both the THCa and d9-THC increased in the cob? where does the extra thc comes from? Is fermeting converting precursory stuff into thc stuff? MIND BLOWN!!

 

[Tangwena]

After reading some of the instructions in the last few comments I've taken the cobs out of the vacuum bags for inspection and further drying
The 3 MxPCKs smell of yeast and berries so I'll leave them out for a day or so to dry
The small KA5H bud that's been in the bag a week or so now was dry enough and smells a little of lemon pepper. It can go back in the curing box @28°c for a while
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Love the colors brother they look awesome.

 

[goingrey]

Yes I was freaking out on some cob and things got doubled up and I couldn't be bothered deleting them.
One is the bud and one is the cob of the same plant. The low delta 9 is the bud the higher delta 9 is the cob.

Thanks! Now I understand.

I took out the extra ones. You telling us both the THCa and d9-THC increased in the cob? where does the extra thc comes from? Is fermeting converting precursory stuff into thc stuff? MIND BLOWN!!

Well it's unlikely to be the same same sample re-submitted but a different one. Possibly it had more THC to begin with.

Maybe the more interesting thing to look at is how much of the total THC is d9-THC. Which went from 6.4% to 8.6%. So there was improvement but room for a lot more with a longer time in the cob. @Tangwena do you know how long it was cobbed for?

 

[Tangwena]

I took out the extra ones. You telling us both the THCa and d9-THC increased in the cob? where does the extra thc comes from? Is fermeting converting precursory stuff into thc stuff? MIND BLOWN!!

I'm no chemist brother I didn't do the testing it was done by a cob maker back in 2017 sometime.
The mold test was done by Madjag, the tester was blown away by how mold free it was.
The reason I started this thread was after I left Africa all the pot I smoked was green and hurt my lungs.
The high was stony not a clean cerebral high like I was used too so I started thinking WHY!
I never saw green buds until I left Africa.
I always saw cured buds cobbed you can never forget the smell its so different.
The smoke is smooth and sweet and doesn't hurt the lungs unless you inhale too much which almost everyone does first time as its so mild on the lungs.
I started chewing the cobbed buds after my lungs started to tire after 50 years of smoking.
Thats when I realized you could get high off chewing.
My African friends had mentioned it but being an ignorant know it all I dismissed it at the time.

 

[Tangwena]

Thanks! Now I understand.


Well it's unlikely to be the same same sample re-submitted but a different one. Possibly it had more THC to begin with.

Maybe the more interesting thing to look at is how much of the total THC is d9-THC. Which went from 6.4% to 8.6%. So there was improvement but room for a lot more with a longer time in the cob. @Tangwena do you know how long it was cobbed for?

No as I mentioned already it was early in the piece and the guy probably didn't do it right.
There are much better practitioners now but I dont care how it works myself all I know is it does, for me anyway.

 

[exploziv]

Can't wait to try it! Thank you guys for sharing all the info and stories!

 

[goingrey]

No as I mentioned already it was early in the piece and the guy probably didn't do it right.
There are much better practitioners now but I dont care how it works myself all I know is it does, for me anyway.

Yeah everyone doesn't care about how things work and that's fine but personally I find it fascinating.

By early in the piece I assume you mean not cobbed very long. So that would mean the results match with people's experiences of a lengthy cobbing really improving the potency (at least when chewed/eaten).

That said, whether he did it wrong or right or not long enough, I would happily take a 34% increase in d9-THC in any weed.

 

[Hombre del mont]

A few days back I said I'd post a picture of the Super Malawi Haze Cob that I'd opened and consumed that day.

Today I remembered. It's the one on the right of the picture.

This morning we've all partaken of the cob on the left, a recently opened piece of Panama.

 

[exploziv]

That looks like around a gram to me (or is the cob way denser that I think?). How many portions do you say one of those pieces is? And about what weight, if it's known?
Looks great, thank you for sharing.