Malawi Style Cob Curing.

[repuk]

V1ruS, I'd say the less long lasting method is smoking, then comes vaping which I'd say is more efficient, less quantity needed for same high duration and cleaner effects than smoking.

And then comes chewed/ingested as the most long lasting method, there's a refinement to the high that you don't get neither from smoking nor vaping (I love to smoke) or just eating something with cannabis oils on it: chewing makes possible sublingual absorption, the cleanest, purest way of taking it, that is later reinforced by the digested part.

From less (more quantity needed for same effect) to most efficient (less quantity required, because less is wasted in the taking process): Smoked, Vaped, Digested, Sublingual.

Cobbing concentrates matter as volume is reduced, and there's a quicker and more thorough decarbing, so 1gr of smoked cob will be more potent than 1gr of same buds uncobbed.

Try it V1ruS, whether you smoke vape or chew it, it's a leap forward with regards to curing or vs uncobbed buds.

 

[HaHaHashish]

Sorry if I missed it, but what is the reason why chewed cob delivers good effects while the same weight in standard cured bud from the same plant that is chewed in the same way and under the same conditions gives zero ~ mild effects?

Gasp! I've run out of cobs and while I have been harvesting a few little ones here and there, they all are lightly seeded so I'm just air drying and bottling them...I could dig out all the seeds and cob them (as some are just moist enough and so are still cobbable), but that really mangles the bud doesn't it so I'll cobber the next sensi girls which will be coming in the early Fall and onward.

 

[repuk]

Sorry if I missed it, but what is the reason why chewed cob delivers good effects while the same weight in standard cured bud from the same plant that is chewed in the same way and under the same conditions gives zero ~ mild effects?

Decarboxilation. Cob curing thoroughly decarbs all matter. THC is in form of THC-a precursor, decarb digests al sugars and convert THC-a to brain-available THC without requiring oxidation (burning buds).

 

[HaHaHashish]

Decarboxilation. Cob curing thoroughly decarbs all matter. THC is in form of THC-a precursor, decarb digests al sugars and convert THC-a to brain-available THC without requiring oxidation (burning buds).

thanks Repuk.

(in regards to eating cobs) but specifically how does this happen? How does cob curing thoroughly decarb when the cobs (correct me if I'm wrong here) are not heated to temperatures required for this to happen? Maybe it's a case of warm temps for long periods work better than short periods of high temps and achieve a better effect? Or maybe there's something else that is happening that hasn't been proven? I think that even though the cobs are subject to temperatures lower than is required for decarbing to fully happen then it is due to other changes that are happening inside the cob during the first 3 months.Here's a suggestion, it's probably a chain reaction of processes, maybe as the terpenes are not allowed to float away and the production of CO2 affects the THC?, does the process of cobbing creates heat like a compost does?

 

[horsemen97]

tutorial for making cobs

tutorial for making cobs

how i can doing cobs? what is the true technics?

 

[Mick]

Hi all, had some month old Panama cob a couple of days ago and I'm still trying to work out what happened. Hard to believe that it can get better than this, but I'm up for it

 

[repuk]

Decarboxilation. Cob curing thoroughly decarbs all matter. THC is in form of THC-a precursor, decarb digests al sugars and convert THC-a to brain-available THC without requiring oxidation (burning buds).

thanks Repuk.

(in regards to eating cobs) but specifically how does this happen? How does cob curing thoroughly decarb when the cobs (correct me if I'm wrong here) are not heated to temperatures required for this to happen? Maybe it's a case of warm temps for long periods work better than short periods of high temps and achieve a better effect? Or maybe there's something else that is happening that hasn't been proven? I think that even though the cobs are subject to temperatures lower than is required for decarbing to fully happen then it is due to other changes that are happening inside the cob during the first 3 months.Here's a suggestion, it's probably a chain reaction of processes, maybe as the terpenes are not allowed to float away and the production of CO2 affects the THC?, does the process of cobbing creates heat like a compost does?

Thanks to the (lactic) anaerobic fermentation biochemical processes carried out by yeasts.

CO2 is produced as byproduct, I think as it's an organic solvant, it acts as a transport agent for the essential oils to travel and distribute uniformly on the cob. Ethylene and acetic acids are produced too as byproducts (sickly sweet smell).

If it creates heat, it should be at very low levels. It requires heat, at least at the beggining to reach a critic mass of fermenting yeasts readily established.

Composting (decomposing) processes are of different nature, mostly oxidative (aerobic) with CO2 and Nitric Ammonia as initial byproducts, with the biological/mechanical aid of earth worms as "recyclers", and bacteria, fungi, microbes an other microorganisms as main "workers".

Composting process is different, relying on carbon/nitrogen balance, requiring oxygen for the oxidation and water for organisms to thrive without reaching anaerobic conditions.

Carbon is burnt by microbes/bacteria, --which feed from the available nitrogen-- by using oxygen: that's why you need to careful balance carbon rich and nitrogen rich matters when making the compost heap: for a quick and thorough composting process without bad odors, lixiviates, etc.

That's why is also beneficial to rake up the compost heap, to keep a good mix of carbon/nitrogen rich matter and oxygenate it.

Composting begins with an oxidative reaction, it's an exotermic process, and so generates heat.

 

[Tangwena]

Hi all, had some month old Panama cob a couple of days ago and I'm still trying to work out what happened. Hard to believe that it can get better than this, but I'm up for it

Good on you brother Panama is an amazingly potent strain especially cobbed.
I had some 2 year old Golden Tiger today and it reloaded my brain ha ha.
It def took my mind out and fiddled with it big time. Its a blissed out world on cobs isn't it.
Sounds like its aging nicely my friend.

 

[Tangwena]

Thanks to the (lactic) anaerobic fermentation biochemical processes carried out by yeasts.

CO2 is produced as byproduct, I think as it's an organic solvant, it acts as a transport agent for the essential oils to travel and distribute uniformly on the cob. Ethylene and acetic acids are produced too as byproducts (sickly sweet smell).

If it creates heat, it should be at very low levels. It requires heat, at least at the beggining to reach a critic mass of fermenting yeasts stablished.

Composting (decomposing) processes are of different nature, mostly oxidative (aerobic) with CO2 and Nitric Ammonia as byproducts, with the biological/mechanical aid of earth worms as "recyclers", and bacteria, fungi microbes an other microorganisms as main "workers".

Composting process is different, relying on carbon/nitrogen balance, requiring oxygen for the oxidation and water for organisms to thrive without reaching anaerobic conditions.

Carbon is burnt by microbes/bacteria, which feed from the available nitrogen by using oxygen, that's why you need to careful balance carbon rich and nitrogen rich matters when making the compost heap for a quick and thorough composting process.

Being an oxidative reaction, it's an exotermic process, and so generates heat.

Repuk is our technical advisor he into all the tech stuff.
I just get high I'm not much use at all with the why it happens I just how to make it happen.

 

[repuk]

Repuk is our technical advisor he into all the tech stuff.
I just get high I'm not much use at all with the why it happens I just how to make it happen.

I have the constant urgent need of understanding things... and it doesn't change while high!

I am really grateful for having found Malawi cobbing. and I'm passionate about it.

I think having good information and solid understanding about what's going on will engage more people into trying. And I know that makes you happy .

Soon I'll have crops to make some more! :yay:

Composting vs Fermenting
Forgot to add: Fermenting is a process widely used to prepare food and beverages on all cultures.

Composting is a process to recycle and sanitize biological matter into soil. When composting, the latest processes (maturing) annihilate yeasts, even seeds, and sanitize toxins.

Totally opposite purpose processes.

Mother nature knows it all:

Composting turns rot into golden soil; fermenting, and thus, cobbing, turns flowers into golden smoke/food .

Just follow mother nature: use the golden soil to grow flowers: fermenting them will lead you to the golden prize.

 

[Mick]

Good on you brother Panama is an amazingly potent strain especially cobbed.
I had some 2 year old Golden Tiger today and it reloaded my brain ha ha.
It def took my mind out and fiddled with it big time. Its a blissed out world on cobs isn't it.
Sounds like its aging nicely my friend.

Hey Tangwena, loving the cobs. I've been doing a bit of sampling and I'm surprised how much as little as a week can make to the overall effect.
Yum, Golden Tiger cobs. I've got a few GT reg seeds
Yeah mate, it's a crazy, blissed out world on cobs. My body and mind love the high.
It's getting cold down here now, but not enough to have a fire, so I'm wondering if I should just keep the cobs on the seed tray with dome to age? It's about 25c in there and the cobs are around 4 to 6 weeks.

 

[GET MO]

For those that have cobbed indica strains, how has it effected the... effects?

 

[Tangwena]

Hey Tangwena, loving the cobs. I've been doing a bit of sampling and I'm surprised how much as little as a week can make to the overall effect.
Yum, Golden Tiger cobs. I've got a few GT reg seeds
Yeah mate, it's a crazy, blissed out world on cobs. My body and mind love the high.
It's getting cold down here now, but not enough to have a fire, so I'm wondering if I should just keep the cobs on the seed tray with dome to age? It's about 25c in there and the cobs are around 4 to 6 weeks.

Hi Mick I dont worry to much on the temps for the aging only the curing.
It will not hurt them to keep them at 25c though. I am in the southern hemisphere as well. But I dont worry about temps to age them we are getting 10 to 12c at night.
Most of the temp critical stage is over now.
I will be making a few cobs next week but after the initial sweat and cure they are just left at room temps to age.

 

[Mick]

Hi Mick I dont worry to much on the temps for the aging only the curing.
It will not hurt them to keep them at 25c though. I am in the southern hemisphere as well. But I dont worry about temps to age them we are getting 10 to 12c at night.
Most of the temp critical stage is over now.
I will be making a few cobs next week but after the initial sweat and cure they are just left at room temps to age.

Thanks for the info mate. Just to make sure I'm on track, when you say "initial sweat and cure", you're talking about approx 1 month, or can the cure times be extended or reduced? After that the temp doesn't matter as much?
Cheers.

 

[repuk]

I will be making a few cobs next week but after the initial sweat and cure they are just left at room temps to age.

I think Tangwena meant initial sweat and fermentation.

After that comes the cure, minimum one month, but can be extended to two, three... the more the better

Temps are not that critical at curing stage.

 

[Tangwena]

Thanks for the info mate. Just to make sure I'm on track, when you say "initial sweat and cure", you're talking about approx 1 month, or can the cure times be extended or reduced? After that the temp doesn't matter as much?
Cheers.

Like Repuk said the initial sweat is important but only to a degree you can delete it all together and get a different type of cure or shorten it or play with the temps ect
But this first step and the 2/3or4 weeks of the cure after the sweat are the critical times.
You have the feel for the technique now you can play with every parameter to change the resultant cure.

The recipe that Repuk has posted is only one of many styles of curing its just a very popular method with a predictable result.

I have just harvested a couple of bush grown plants enough to make many cobs I am going to try a different cure on every one.
I will document each step so if I see one thats a hummer I can reproduce it.

The plants are GT and Malawi x Ethiopia organic grown outside in the sun they are dripping with oil and resin the cobs are going to be amazing and so will the experience of the experiment.
Nothing I do will destroy them so nothing to loose with a bit of experimentation.

 

[jonhova]

I’m still a few weeks away from harvest, however i want to share what i have so far. This is my first grow and i have done many things wrong this grow. Despite that i have 2 delicious smelling orient express (vietnam black sativa dom phenos). I think the final yield will be respectable. I’ll be cobbing at least half of each plant if not more very excited.

 

[Mick]

I think Tangwena meant initial sweat and fermentation.

After that comes the cure, minimum one month, but can be extended to two, three... the more the better

Temps are not that critical at curing stage.

Thanks mate, it's taken awhile to get my head around this, but I think I'm getting there

 

[Mick]

Like Repuk said the initial sweat is important but only to a degree you can delete it all together and get a different type of cure or shorten it or play with the temps ect
But this first step and the 2/3or4 weeks of the cure after the sweat are the critical times.
You have the feel for the technique now you can play with every parameter to change the resultant cure.

The recipe that Repuk has posted is only one of many styles of curing its just a very popular method with a predictable result.

I have just harvested a couple of bush grown plants enough to make many cobs I am going to try a different cure on every one.
I will document each step so if I see one thats a hummer I can reproduce it.

The plants are GT and Malawi x Ethiopia organic grown outside in the sun they are dripping with oil and resin the cobs are going to be amazing and so will the experience of the experiment.
Nothing I do will destroy them so nothing to loose with a bit of experimentation.

Thanks again Tangwena. I read today you've had record autumn temps over your way. We had a great season too up in the Vic mountains.
Good luck with the coming cobs. I'm all excited about trying my first Malawi cob tomorrow.
Cheers.

 

[ion]

ya know, you guys spend too much time on this curing stuff, just cut the flower off and smoke it......maybe wait a few days first, but cannabis does not benefit from curing more than a couple of days. seriously! just read what the 'professionals' are doing in WA state. you guys will change your game quickly once you see the genius these exceptional farmers employ for there business

mjbizdaily.com/marijuana-cultivators-finding-ways-to-shorten-curing-process/


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