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Malawi Style Cob Curing.
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Cool man any pics? Next time you open them please post pics and any info like strain ect.I've got a few cobs going and I'm wondering what the ideal temp is for the cure? So far, so good
The temp you cure them at has a direct effect on how they cure.
i like to keep them between 25c and 30c for anywhere from 1 week to 4 weeks depending on the sort of effect I am after.
Shorter cure usually leads to more aromatic colorful results after aging longer to darker denser results and anything in between these two.
Good on you for giving it a go you will not regret it if you get it right.
Please post pics so we can all enjoy your success which I am sure you will have.
repuk, very nice presentation. A question, when you say 100% plant, are you referring to a freshly harvested cob?
Also, I was wondering yesterday if I might want to loosen up the compression of my cobs? Are we shooting for maximum compression, or can I expect significant differences in effect from a more relaxed cob?
I have decades to play with this, but I run right into each project, as you've witnessed. Lol!
Also, I was wondering yesterday if I might want to loosen up the compression of my cobs? Are we shooting for maximum compression, or can I expect significant differences in effect from a more relaxed cob?
I have decades to play with this, but I run right into each project, as you've witnessed. Lol!
Yes, I referred to 100% RH, i.e. freshly harvested.
SweetSue said:
I guess the compression seeks to homogeinize all substances and increase concentration, it depends also on the kind of buds (fluffier vs dense), and possibly the more compressed, the faster the fermentation and cure.
Tangwena?
The fact that we use vacuum sealed bags makes the bud compressed enough on its own but tying the cobs tighter by re tying the cobs does make the cure faster and the end result more dense like a rough hash.
I like both dense and loose bag cures they are both different taste and effects its up to your own personal goals in what you want the end product to look like.
Different bud structures react differently to being compressed large dense buds I like less compressed.
But thats just me its really about your taste and theres only one person who knows what that is.
Experiment each harvest until you find what you prefer there are countless variations time, temp, moisture content and compression.
Once you find a method or two that you like your cobs/buds will often produce a unique cure that has your personality written all over it and would be very hard to reproduce even with your recipe. Because so much is by sense and smell no two cures will ever be exactly the same.
Plenty of scope for individuality.
I like both dense and loose bag cures they are both different taste and effects its up to your own personal goals in what you want the end product to look like.
Different bud structures react differently to being compressed large dense buds I like less compressed.
But thats just me its really about your taste and theres only one person who knows what that is.
Experiment each harvest until you find what you prefer there are countless variations time, temp, moisture content and compression.
Once you find a method or two that you like your cobs/buds will often produce a unique cure that has your personality written all over it and would be very hard to reproduce even with your recipe. Because so much is by sense and smell no two cures will ever be exactly the same.
Plenty of scope for individuality.
Hey mate, thanks for the info. I'm looking for a super clear, clean, euphoric, crazy long lasting trippy high. Can you get me in the ballpark regarding curing times to get that effect or something close to?
Also I'm curious as to what's the best temp to let them age.
If I cure for a month do I need to let the skin of the cobs dry periodically, or can I just let them go.
I'm into day 3 of the cure and they smell super sexy. They're from a strain called Z99. From memory, a breeder developed a strain called Zoid Fuel, which was breed from The Old Mother Sativa from up around Nimbin way in the sixties or seventies. He did a cross with the Zoid and a Wally's Cindy 99, I guess to bring down the flowering time. The Zoid is one of my all time favourites, so super curious to see how these cobs turn out.
Next in Line is an Ace Panama and she has big, beautiful, crazy fragrant buds. I love to run my hand up one and cup the palm over my mouth for ages, breathing in her awesomeness. Never smelt anything like it. She's given me so much pleasure just by smelling her and I can only imagine the magical places she's going to take me
Cheers.
What an amazing discussion. I have been skimming through. Just picked up some tamale wraps. It has a pretty gnarly sounding warning about sulphur dioxide. Are there wraps out there that arent treated with this preservative? Or is boiling the wraps enough to mitigate any potential hazard? Many thanks and apologies if this has already been covered.
Hey Tang I have been thinking, which is generally not a good thing, and I got to wondering whether the cob cure process would be helped, or hindered by the use of a car-jack setup to compress the partially dry buds into a dense puck, rather than compressing it in the traditional hand-tying method I have used so far.
Here are some pictures of a commercially sold hydraulic press, which ahem, inspired the construction of my own DIY clone intended for one-off personal use only, of course.
I just acquired a couple of hydraulic car jacks for a princely sum of about $30 USD, and have handed them over to a friend who runs a small machine shop, so he can make me two of these devices, with perhaps up to four molds for bud compression.
My dastardly plan is to pack as much buddage as possible into the compression cylinder, and then compact it with perhaps half a ton of pressure, using the car jack, before removing the solid puck that results, and wrapping it in paper in preparation for the final stage of vacuum sealing.
This method would eliminate the time-consuming process of hand-squeezing my cobs and tying them tightly with twine prior to the vacuum stage of the procedure. Also with this method, sizes and shapes of cobs can be customized by having on hand various molds of different capacities and geometry, that can be swapped in as needed.
I guess my question to you is whether in your opinion there might be a point of diminishing returns when it comes to the degree of compression to which the cob is subjected. My reasoning has been that if the objective of compression is to exclude air, then using a car jack may produce a superior result, given that literally tons of compression can be applied with very little exertion on the part of the bud-meister.
Any thoughts you may have on my idea would be very much appreciated, even as I stand by for the delivery of my new DIY Hydraulic Cob Press.
Here are some pictures of a commercially sold hydraulic press, which ahem, inspired the construction of my own DIY clone intended for one-off personal use only, of course.
I just acquired a couple of hydraulic car jacks for a princely sum of about $30 USD, and have handed them over to a friend who runs a small machine shop, so he can make me two of these devices, with perhaps up to four molds for bud compression.
My dastardly plan is to pack as much buddage as possible into the compression cylinder, and then compact it with perhaps half a ton of pressure, using the car jack, before removing the solid puck that results, and wrapping it in paper in preparation for the final stage of vacuum sealing.
This method would eliminate the time-consuming process of hand-squeezing my cobs and tying them tightly with twine prior to the vacuum stage of the procedure. Also with this method, sizes and shapes of cobs can be customized by having on hand various molds of different capacities and geometry, that can be swapped in as needed.
I guess my question to you is whether in your opinion there might be a point of diminishing returns when it comes to the degree of compression to which the cob is subjected. My reasoning has been that if the objective of compression is to exclude air, then using a car jack may produce a superior result, given that literally tons of compression can be applied with very little exertion on the part of the bud-meister.
Any thoughts you may have on my idea would be very much appreciated, even as I stand by for the delivery of my new DIY Hydraulic Cob Press.
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Sounds awesome I have heard a lot of chat about that z99 it should make you a clear high like your after.Hey mate, thanks for the info. I'm looking for a super clear, clean, euphoric, crazy long lasting trippy high. Can you get me in the ballpark regarding curing times to get that effect or something close to?
Also I'm curious as to what's the best temp to let them age.
If I cure for a month do I need to let the skin of the cobs dry periodically, or can I just let them go.
I'm into day 3 of the cure and they smell super sexy. They're from a strain called Z99. From memory, a breeder developed a strain called Zoid Fuel, which was breed from The Old Mother Sativa from up around Nimbin way in the sixties or seventies. He did a cross with the Zoid and a Wally's Cindy 99, I guess to bring down the flowering time. The Zoid is one of my all time favourites, so super curious to see how these cobs turn out.
Next in Line is an Ace Panama and she has big, beautiful, crazy fragrant buds. I love to run my hand up one and cup the palm over my mouth for ages, breathing in her awesomeness. Never smelt anything like it. She's given me so much pleasure just by smelling her and I can only imagine the magical places she's going to take me
Cheers.
I know for a fact the Panama will rock your world cured this way.
Its hell strong and I use smaller doses than most of the others because its so strong.
Also the superb smell deepens and just gets really stinky like strong floral hashish its a crazy funky aroma just sexy as hell.
During curing inspect weekly and dry the outside skin each time before returning it to the vacuum bag.
This way by the time 3 or 4 weeks cure is up it will be dried enough to age at cooler ambient temps 25 to 30c is enough.
By aging it should be fairly dry but the core needs to be slightly moist like with storing cigars except sealed in a vac bag.
I have been growing Aces gear for the last few years and so far everything I have grown has been more than strong enough.
Please post some pics of the buds before after and during cobbing.
They sound so tasty I've just got to clap eyes on them.
In a pinch you could use sheets of 8x11 printer paper to roll your cobs. Clean paper ought to be as close to sterile as one could expect, and I have used paper with good success, rolling the few cobs I have made since learning about the process here in this forum.
Glad you find it interesting my friend. If you cant find anything to wrap it with you can still just put it loose in a vacuum bag and everything happens just the same, plus you can see the color change easier.
Its not that important to wrap them just traditional.
The act of pulling a vacuum on the bag compresses the buds nicely on its own.
Giving the Devil’s Carnival cob another taste, this one after two weeks curing. Euphoria is a little more intense. I’ve got wax blockage in my right ear that’s skewering my sensual responses, making this experiment even more interesting.
Thought I’d share some pics over here first. Kinda my way of showing respect Tangwena.
Thought I’d share some pics over here first. Kinda my way of showing respect Tangwena.
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looking good Sue that cross section looks like the cure is done. Time to just age it now keep it vac sealed all the time and just slice off sections to use that way it stays nice and fresh.Giving the Devil’s Carnival cob another taste, this one after two weeks curing. Euphoria is a little more intense. I’ve got wax blockage in my right ear that’s skewering my sensual responses, making this experiment even more interesting.
Thought I’d share some pics over here first. Kinda my way of showing respect Tangwena.
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Respect is coming to you my friend you have aced your cures without any problems.
Because the effects are so long lasting chewed the differences in high between varies strains is highlighted and you can get a good feel for each individual strain.
As you are no doubt finding out they all have something to offer if they are any good. But some really shine and are very unique in their effects chewed.
Rock on sweetsue!
Broke out the thunk cob this weekend and it was
a real crowd pleaser.
Smoked the samples in a glass bowl and the hits
were smooth.
Onset was quick and relentless, no one took a third hit.
Effects were life enhancing, long lasting and quite enjoyable.
Thanks for sharing the technique, much love.
a real crowd pleaser.
Smoked the samples in a glass bowl and the hits
were smooth.
Onset was quick and relentless, no one took a third hit.
Effects were life enhancing, long lasting and quite enjoyable.
Thanks for sharing the technique, much love.
G
Gr33nSanta
My cobs do not burn clean yet, I wonder if I should take them out of the vacuum sealed bags and let them dry out completely now.
They do crumble nicely with scissors or grinder, so it is not like they're still damp.
The smell is absolutely amazing when I open the bags, but I really feel it did not work as advertised.
I am certainly not going to do any large amounts until I figure it out. Or maybe it is not for me. The effects might be enhanced. Every time I open a bag ( I re-seal it right away ) and smoke a spliff I am always disappointed at the smoke.
The cobs still have a fairly light green color, if I leave a chunk to air dry it will turn brown rather quickly but will still have a darker black-ish ash while smoking a joint.
The same popcorn buds that were left to dry for weeks (no cure or sweat, simply hung and forgotten about) now burn totally clean and also taste like what I am used to with that cultivar. Just to say that it's not like the herb was not grown properly, she had a nice fade on her.
They do crumble nicely with scissors or grinder, so it is not like they're still damp.
The smell is absolutely amazing when I open the bags, but I really feel it did not work as advertised.
I am certainly not going to do any large amounts until I figure it out. Or maybe it is not for me. The effects might be enhanced. Every time I open a bag ( I re-seal it right away ) and smoke a spliff I am always disappointed at the smoke.
The cobs still have a fairly light green color, if I leave a chunk to air dry it will turn brown rather quickly but will still have a darker black-ish ash while smoking a joint.
The same popcorn buds that were left to dry for weeks (no cure or sweat, simply hung and forgotten about) now burn totally clean and also taste like what I am used to with that cultivar. Just to say that it's not like the herb was not grown properly, she had a nice fade on her.
