RumblefishTwist
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Maybe this has been asked, but can a food dehydrator be used in place of the yogurt maker/crock pot? Any potential issues there?
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Malawi Style Cob Curing.
- Thread starter Tangwena
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led05
Chasing The Present
I've done it before, temp range has some variance but works well. I use the heat mat as it's less energy and no fan which makes for a much tighter temp. control.
If you have one already, it'll suit you just perfect ! I'd say a Dehydrator (most expensive though by far) is better than both a crock pot and yogurt maker, much larger temp range and dial.... Heat Mat being my Fav
Wise words and you can tell its from experience.a few things I've experienced:
1) a good vacuum here is absolutely critical, it greatly removes the risk of the bad, mold
2) I use half gallon wide mouth mason jars. Rarely in store, very easy to find online, they work very well. If you have veggie or fruit gardens you never can have too many large jars, i literally have hundreds and still find myself looking for jars during harvest season
3) The food saver mason jar attachment will work on any vacuum that has an accessory port, it's a great gadget to have for many products to preserve
4) The mason jars work well but different and the risk for mold in them is higher than cobs as you'll never pack them full like a cob is tight and the moisture does pool in the bottom of the jar, you can lay it however you like, there will be a low point... This can be remedied easily by breaking up the sweat into a couple phases where you just open the jar, remove nugs, let them (bottom wetter ones) dry for an hour or two, dry out inside of jar and put back in for sweat.
The biggest difference though b/w the Jar and a cob IMO is the breaking up of the plant cell walls and just the general force / pressure exerted on the product when making a cob. If anyone has ever read up on Frenchies hash making technique, I think the force, pressure etc on the cob is a key ingredient and very similar , it also aids in the fermentation process. Your mason jar nugs if not beat up & compressed will never get those black dark scary looking colors as a cob will. The jar nugs definitely ferment, improve, turn out great - Just not the same as a well compressed cob.
A well compressed cob stored in a vacuumed jar IMO can last years, maybe even decades due to the skin it forms and how it preserves. Cobs to me are more akin to a type of fermented hash vs. a well cured flower. Mason Jar fermented nugs are just that, fermented well cured flowers.
Big diff but both very unique - the smell, taste and flavor on both is something special and not to be missed !
Going in wetter than you think probably isn't a bad thing, either !!
Tang - thanks again for bringing this less than mainstream art, back to the flow
Nothing to add my friend just a big thanks for posting couldn't have put it better myself.
The Golden Tiger has the best high I have had outside of Africa once cobbed.
All phenos work differently of course but all have that euphoric trippy high where you are so high for so long you escape this world and live in another more beautiful world where you can still function after a fashion.
I never want to come down but when you do its with a satisfied smile on your face like after good sex and you know you can go again tomorrow.
The Malawi cured cob style after aging for 3 months chewed if you got the cure right, will do the same only not as beautiful as the GT it has a little something special in it.
But for a first time cob experience chewed matured cob will be a new experience for you. Go deep and let go dont fight it and you will be reborn.
It has the sort of high where you and your 2 or 3 clones of yourself will get lost in your own home. Its what getting high on grass is all about IMO.
Forgive the clutter, I still don't have enough posts to have edit function. Almost halfway there. I may have a line on a clone of a Thai-leaning pheno of Zamaldelica, if I get really cosmically lucky. The big trick is finding the space in the grow.
I run a medicinal grow that also supplies my own recreational needs, although this is my daily meds, in order to keep up the volume of work I do at 420 Mag, so I don't think it's fair to me to call it recreational. You yourself are one who appreciates operating in a higher realm. That takes top-quality sativas, IMO. I've only space to flower 4-5 plants. Stop tempting me with more exotic chemovars. Lol!
I run a medicinal grow that also supplies my own recreational needs, although this is my daily meds, in order to keep up the volume of work I do at 420 Mag, so I don't think it's fair to me to call it recreational. You yourself are one who appreciates operating in a higher realm. That takes top-quality sativas, IMO. I've only space to flower 4-5 plants. Stop tempting me with more exotic chemovars. Lol!
TychoMonolyth
Boreal Curing
Tangwena, since I'm making lots of cobs, can I vacuum say 4-5 cobs together in the same vacuum bag to sweat? I plan on vacuum packing them individually for the cure though.
G
Gr33nSanta
I did that for the sweat on some of them and plan to do it for the cure on all of them. I think I might start them all in the same bag, wait 1+week so that they all have the same level of relative humidity, open the bag, inspect them, then seal them individually for the very final cure.
TychoMonolyth
Boreal Curing
Nice.
What about Indica vs Sativa? Do you know the different in the effects?
I know curing the Sativas for 3+ months clears up the stone, do you know if the effects of an Indica would act like a sleeping pill or a dexie? lol
I'm growing both, so I'm trying to find out if Indica would be as enjoyable.
Dr. Grinspoon
New member
Whoohoo! I just got some ACE Zamaldelica and Malawi as well as a Thai strain from world of seeds! Does anyone know how many different phenos I can get out of the Zamaldelica???
Happy cobbin'
Happy cobbin'
G
Gr33nSanta
I ve been smoking a lot of unfinished cobs so far haha. I think I can vouch for the effects already. But I ll wait for at least a month or 2 to confirm. I do dab, so my tolerance is above average.
It is still a little harsh at the 7 days mark after the initial heat sweat, which is to be expected... It is way smoother than the very first cobs I smoked shortly after initial sweat. The flavors are different then glass cured, I d say longer after taste but again I need to experiment some more.
I have been smoking spliffs forever, in my experience, the tobacco that I smoke does not affect ash color, if the weed is harsh, the ash is dark, if the weed is smooth, the ash is as white as can be, regardless of the tobacco. So anyway, I have been smoking some fresh cobs with tobacco.
I could not get my phone to focus on the ash when it was long but eventually got a decent one. Not the whitest ash but is not bad. I had tobacco in that spliff but again it does not affect ash color in my opinion.
I think it will be pure white 3 weeks from now, I ll smoke a pure tobacco free then.
It is still a little harsh at the 7 days mark after the initial heat sweat, which is to be expected... It is way smoother than the very first cobs I smoked shortly after initial sweat. The flavors are different then glass cured, I d say longer after taste but again I need to experiment some more.
I have been smoking spliffs forever, in my experience, the tobacco that I smoke does not affect ash color, if the weed is harsh, the ash is dark, if the weed is smooth, the ash is as white as can be, regardless of the tobacco. So anyway, I have been smoking some fresh cobs with tobacco.
I could not get my phone to focus on the ash when it was long but eventually got a decent one. Not the whitest ash but is not bad. I had tobacco in that spliff but again it does not affect ash color in my opinion.
I think it will be pure white 3 weeks from now, I ll smoke a pure tobacco free then.
I have had different phenos every grow and they are all good in their own way. Just pop the lot and go to town you will not regret it I am sure.Whoohoo! I just got some ACE Zamaldelica and Malawi as well as a Thai strain from world of seeds! Does anyone know how many different phenos I can get out of the Zamaldelica???
Happy cobbin'
The smells of Zamaldelica cobs are outstanding and will leave you in no doubt as to their power.
One sniff and you'll want to keep it just to sniff it.
Patience my friend it isn't cured yet thats way to young to test yet.
Beautiful macros Gr33nSanta! I couldn't be able to inspect them any better by being there! (well I would be able to test them hehe).
Hope you don't mind, I think it will be useful to have an index:
Hope you don't mind, I think it will be useful to have an index:
Led05 said:
For those with access to it, it would be interesting to experiment using CO2 to "fill" the jars, as it will displace Oxygen out.
Not that I am endorsing anyone to do it, playing with CO2 requires knowing how to handle it due to the risk of suffoccation, and I don't have a clue how it will affect fermentation other than ensuring an anaerobic one takes place.
Tangwena, by your words and picks I assume you prefer sweating to be a gentle stage? i.e. better gentle and longer?
This is obviously strain dependent, but would you say colors are expected to evolve from Initial Green -> Lighter Green -> Yellow Green -> Yellow -> Orange -> Red -> Brown? Gonna fix that on the SWEAT diagram...
Gr33nSanta said:
Focus will hunt always the bigger contrast areas, that's why it preferred the dirt.
To help it focus towards where you want, place something that "stands out" temporarily in the same distance (finger, hand, position your hand as background if no more hands, etc)
led05
Chasing The Present
doesn't pulling a "vacuum" do just that, displace all the air in there, leaving little to none behind depending on how good a vac you get?
Then as fermentation starts Co2 will be everywhere in there? I'm pretty sure pumping in Co2 would be a moot exercise.
Fermentation starting is a lock if you put in wet enough and get the temps above 90F, probably even lower too, the moisture content going in and Vac is what is most important here for proper fermentation IME.
The temperature is more about subtleties and timeline - make sure it's properly sealed, vacuumed and chances are you'll get a good ferment. Once that piece is locked down the timing and Temp is where you focus and where you get to play and dial things in, after that, patience...
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led05
Chasing The Present
the more complex the beginning product, the more important and change for the better you'll experience during the curing process.
The exact same for cobbing holds true, NLD comes to life & shines, WLD not as much but still work and the fermentation process in general seems to always improve on taste and smoothness regardless if NLD of WLD
