when?
with things like rate,time and distance we should be able to predict the exact moment of effect.
some postulated that it was last night.
seems alot like religion
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Major Earthquake In Japan Major Tsunamis
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when?
with things like rate,time and distance we should be able to predict the exact moment of effect.
some postulated that it was last night.
seems alot like religion
G
greenmatter
c'mon dag .... the math that is used in these situations is simple. if you predict that something crazy is going to happen every day then someday you will be right. the end of the world thing IS NOT a new thing ... the foil hats change with the times but in the end it is STILL just a foil hat .... why try to get anything done when freakin' out about what could happen takes so much time?
holy bananas
That's... uhm, how should I put it.. Quite amusing.
Ironic?
Radiation a hoax?!
Radiation a hoax?!
Is it possible this stuff isn't as crazy as they make it out to be?
I seen some wild boars running around Chernobyl that supposedly you can't eat if you hunt them...
but they looked just fine, running around eating all that nuclear grass?
do the powers that be not want us to know they are boiling water with free chunks of hot dirt and charging us $$billions$$ for it?
Radiation a hoax?!
Is it possible this stuff isn't as crazy as they make it out to be?
I seen some wild boars running around Chernobyl that supposedly you can't eat if you hunt them...
but they looked just fine, running around eating all that nuclear grass?
do the powers that be not want us to know they are boiling water with free chunks of hot dirt and charging us $$billions$$ for it?
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-0402-milk-traces-20110402,0,1854441.story?track=rss
Traces of radioactive iodine found in San Luis Obispo milk
The levels have gone up since the damage to Japan's nuclear power plants, but public health officials say there is no danger.
Traces of radioactive iodine have been found in milk from San Luis Obispo, but officials say the amounts are so small that they pose no risk.
"People need to realize that really trace amounts do not pose a threat to public health," said Mike Sicilia, a spokesman for the California Department of Public Health. "The levels we detected are nearly 5,000 times less than FDA standards."
The radioactive material is iodine-131, which is produced by nuclear fission. It hadn't been found in California milk samples before fallout from Japan's ravaged Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant drifted across the Pacific.
Scientists this week detected a similar amount in milk from the Spokane, Wash. area.
Michael Payne, a veterinarian who heads the Western Institute for Food Safety and Security at UC Davis, called the iodine traces inconsequential.
"I would drink those milk samples without a second thought," he said.
The state tests milk for radioactivity in San Luis Obispo, where cows graze not far from the Diablo Canyon nuclear power plant, and in Humboldt County, where a nuclear plant was shuttered in 1976. There are no major dairies near the San Onofre nuclear plant in northern San Diego County, officials said.
The San Luis Obispo County cows are part of a dairy herd owned by Cal Poly San Luis Obispo. Their milk, which is used commercially, continues to be safe, said Dr. Penny Borenstein, the county's health officer.
"There has been no recall, nor should there be," she said.
Traces of radioactive iodine found in San Luis Obispo milk
The levels have gone up since the damage to Japan's nuclear power plants, but public health officials say there is no danger.
Traces of radioactive iodine have been found in milk from San Luis Obispo, but officials say the amounts are so small that they pose no risk.
"People need to realize that really trace amounts do not pose a threat to public health," said Mike Sicilia, a spokesman for the California Department of Public Health. "The levels we detected are nearly 5,000 times less than FDA standards."
The radioactive material is iodine-131, which is produced by nuclear fission. It hadn't been found in California milk samples before fallout from Japan's ravaged Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant drifted across the Pacific.
Scientists this week detected a similar amount in milk from the Spokane, Wash. area.
Michael Payne, a veterinarian who heads the Western Institute for Food Safety and Security at UC Davis, called the iodine traces inconsequential.
"I would drink those milk samples without a second thought," he said.
The state tests milk for radioactivity in San Luis Obispo, where cows graze not far from the Diablo Canyon nuclear power plant, and in Humboldt County, where a nuclear plant was shuttered in 1976. There are no major dairies near the San Onofre nuclear plant in northern San Diego County, officials said.
The San Luis Obispo County cows are part of a dairy herd owned by Cal Poly San Luis Obispo. Their milk, which is used commercially, continues to be safe, said Dr. Penny Borenstein, the county's health officer.
"There has been no recall, nor should there be," she said.
Woah, Humboldt is radioactive! Newsflash.
...Not even worth the time... enjoy your Omaha steaks....
Guess you didn't figure your link out yet to answer any of the questions I asked?
^^^^ worth your time ^^^^
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I did enjoy my Omaha Steaks, btw.
I'm not used to eating well, so I was happy.
Do you recommend I eat somewhere else?
Thanks again!
I forget where I heard or read this...
but originally I believe the nuclear revolution was intended to take place in the household...
mini nuclear energy sheds in every backyard... or in every town
but then they decided it was "Safer" to concentrate all the energy generators in one place.
"safer" meaning "more profitable"
the reason we don't have wind, solar, and geothermal energy dominating is because with fossil and nuclear fuels someone gets paid to source hard to get material fuels.
renewable energies are harder to charge for
but originally I believe the nuclear revolution was intended to take place in the household...
mini nuclear energy sheds in every backyard... or in every town
but then they decided it was "Safer" to concentrate all the energy generators in one place.
"safer" meaning "more profitable"
the reason we don't have wind, solar, and geothermal energy dominating is because with fossil and nuclear fuels someone gets paid to source hard to get material fuels.
renewable energies are harder to charge for
Don't take this personally folks but uhh... Nobody around you really knows anything about radiation and the nuclear industry.
This is the same as any other topic.... unless you've actually dug into the information and studied it in depth.... all your information is just bogus crap from media and the other (uninformed) folks around you. Exact same issue with cannabis these days, but oh well.
The only milk being tested for radiation is generally from cows being grazed near nuclear power plants or other processing facilities in the nuclear industry. Chances are they're not testing YOUR milk. Milk also has a life span of something like 3 weeks between cow to your store shelf.... so it's all radioactive on the shelf right now. The cows have been eating grass with radioactive particles in it for 3 weeks now.
When you mention the word "Fallout"... most people are unaware that their mindset is focused on the definition of "Bomb" Fallout... not fissile material fallout. What's the difference?
Bomb Fallout consists mainly of non-radioactive materials that have been broken/vaporized and converted into radioactive isotopes of their original materials. This material is (depending on what it was originally) generally radioactive for seconds to a few months.
Fissile Material Fallout consists of uranium and plutonium (or both) getting hot enough to off-gas particles. These particles are generally radioactive from between a few seconds to (mainly) several THOUSAND years. (If not longer)
The detectors that register iodine-131 are designed to detect traditional "Fallout". When you see that they are detecting Iodine-131 in an area you can bet your last pair of boots that you WILL find the other isotopes from Japan that do NOT dissipate quickly.
Oh yeah... the EPA also recently raised the "Acceptable Level" of background radiation... so it is now easier to say "Things are well below acceptable levels".
Anyone who's studied even a fraction of the industry (Not worked within it) is crapping their pants right now. You should be too.
Shave your head and your kids heads... keep em indoor. Drink filtered water, wash your veggies and for F's Sake... get a basic background on radiation because this will be an issue for the rest of your life.
Stay Safe!
This is the same as any other topic.... unless you've actually dug into the information and studied it in depth.... all your information is just bogus crap from media and the other (uninformed) folks around you. Exact same issue with cannabis these days, but oh well.
The only milk being tested for radiation is generally from cows being grazed near nuclear power plants or other processing facilities in the nuclear industry. Chances are they're not testing YOUR milk. Milk also has a life span of something like 3 weeks between cow to your store shelf.... so it's all radioactive on the shelf right now. The cows have been eating grass with radioactive particles in it for 3 weeks now.
When you mention the word "Fallout"... most people are unaware that their mindset is focused on the definition of "Bomb" Fallout... not fissile material fallout. What's the difference?
Bomb Fallout consists mainly of non-radioactive materials that have been broken/vaporized and converted into radioactive isotopes of their original materials. This material is (depending on what it was originally) generally radioactive for seconds to a few months.
Fissile Material Fallout consists of uranium and plutonium (or both) getting hot enough to off-gas particles. These particles are generally radioactive from between a few seconds to (mainly) several THOUSAND years. (If not longer)
The detectors that register iodine-131 are designed to detect traditional "Fallout". When you see that they are detecting Iodine-131 in an area you can bet your last pair of boots that you WILL find the other isotopes from Japan that do NOT dissipate quickly.
Oh yeah... the EPA also recently raised the "Acceptable Level" of background radiation... so it is now easier to say "Things are well below acceptable levels".
Anyone who's studied even a fraction of the industry (Not worked within it) is crapping their pants right now. You should be too.
Shave your head and your kids heads... keep em indoor. Drink filtered water, wash your veggies and for F's Sake... get a basic background on radiation because this will be an issue for the rest of your life.
Stay Safe!
The trade off is simple.
Stay ignorant, pay someone else who really doesn't know what they're doing to tell you they do.
Complain about it when something goes wrong. Be scared.
OR
Imagine every household with its own mini nuclear boiler.
Instead of paying $50-$500 a month on electric you spend that amount ONCE a year on a nuclear rod the size of a flashlight.
Manage your nuclear waste properly and power your household and your electric/hybrid vehicle for a fraction of the cost.
Oh yea, you can wake up now. The folks at the top of this scenario... the ones getting paid for not knowing what they're doing... they'll never let the other possibility exist.
Its just too dangerous.
Stay ignorant, pay someone else who really doesn't know what they're doing to tell you they do.
Complain about it when something goes wrong. Be scared.
OR
Imagine every household with its own mini nuclear boiler.
Instead of paying $50-$500 a month on electric you spend that amount ONCE a year on a nuclear rod the size of a flashlight.
Manage your nuclear waste properly and power your household and your electric/hybrid vehicle for a fraction of the cost.
Oh yea, you can wake up now. The folks at the top of this scenario... the ones getting paid for not knowing what they're doing... they'll never let the other possibility exist.
Its just too dangerous.
how does shaving the heads keep the radiation off the skin?
being in a concrete building actually INCREASES your radiation exposure over a wood frame building. WHY?
how does the filter get the radiation out of the water?
who's washing the "veggies" growing in humboldt? do we have to be concerned about the 3 missing fuel rods that have been chilling there for the last 30 years? how come no one is shitting their pants over that?
M
Mountain
So do you work within the industry?
Read TEPCO is offering peeps $5,000 per day to run in and out of some of the reactor buildings. Seems the younger folk are passing but some older guys are taking them up on it.
Where do I sign up?
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Lets see... we know you're not supposed to touch the lava.
But what is radioactive material?
Are these just rocks from deep down close to the core that have been superheated for extended periods and remain this way for extended periods?
I'm not surprised no one can respond. Nuclear energy is one of the most closely guarded secrets.
People sitting on top of oil are raking in billions. What if you were sitting on top of radioactive fuels? Do you know how to even source them?
Here is my take on it:
There is radioactive material (really hot rocks)
The radioactive material is the nucleus (in the middle) of a more stable element (less hot rocks)
If the radioactive material comes in contact with the moisture in atmosphere it explodes because it is so unstable.
If the radioactive material stays in the middle (nuclear) of the more stable element (less hot rocks) then the more stable element can be placed into water.
The water heats up from the nuclear material heating up the more stable housing element, creates steam, turns a turbine, creates power.
Now the cores have been exposed and there have been explosions.
Do they want to tell us "don't trip, this stuff is safer than you think"
or do they want to tell us "this stuff is very dangerous. We need expensive robots. pay us your $$$ for this hard work"
People sitting on top of oil are raking in billions. What if you were sitting on top of radioactive fuels? Do you know how to even source them?
Here is my take on it:
There is radioactive material (really hot rocks)
The radioactive material is the nucleus (in the middle) of a more stable element (less hot rocks)
If the radioactive material comes in contact with the moisture in atmosphere it explodes because it is so unstable.
If the radioactive material stays in the middle (nuclear) of the more stable element (less hot rocks) then the more stable element can be placed into water.
The water heats up from the nuclear material heating up the more stable housing element, creates steam, turns a turbine, creates power.
Now the cores have been exposed and there have been explosions.
Do they want to tell us "don't trip, this stuff is safer than you think"
or do they want to tell us "this stuff is very dangerous. We need expensive robots. pay us your $$$ for this hard work"
Spoken like the true masses.
Nothing I can type here will trigger you to take even 2 seconds to wonder if maybe you and everyone around you really DO know as much as you think you do.
Think or Die...
p.s. Link to Mayor of a town 25km from Fukushima, pleading for the world to help his people.... who can't help themselves because their govt is telling them to stay inside. He's basically asking for people to show up that won't listen to the govt and will actually help... because they're all stuck inside.
Also interesting to note that he's 25km away and they're getting 3 years worth of radiation every hour.
He's not pleading to Japan.... it's sick. He's pleading to anyone that will listen and help because the govt is useless. Very sick that peeps will just sit in their homes because they're told. Same reason there isn't any theft around there.
Those people are dead. *shrug*
Nope.... got a few white hairs studying it about 15 years ago. Anyone who deals with the facts would be insane to stay in any part of the nuclear industry. People IN the industry have all been taught from day one by other people in the industry that don't understand. (Trained the same way.)
Had I only a few years left to live... I still wouldn't sign up. A few minutes around there will kill you within the year or at least make your life not exactly pleasant to live. A few hours will kill you in weeks.
The "Fukashima 50"?? You won't see a group photo of them at this point. Doubtful most of them are walking around anymore.
I'd love to sit and special olympics with ya'll but I have much more important things to do in regards to the health of my family. Toodles!
