Mac vs. PC - the great debate

[grapeman]

You're a complete idiot.

Why? Just because I know more then you?

LOL - I have both machines, pc & macs. PC is great for gaming. Stand alone gaming machine. That's all it does. I built it for gaming with parts I ordered from all the usual suppliers of pc parts. I guess it was about $900 all in.

But, I also own a 20" imac that I paid $750 for (used, I seldom buy new but for my laptops) and a macbook pro.

So, when I speak of ease of use and productivity, at least I come from experience and not ignorance like yourself.

Prejudice is contempt prior to investigation.

And my mac laptop, which only restarts upon new installs, has been running for 4.5 months from last restart.

I don't know about windows 7, but I know for a fact that that is impossible for xp and vista. Those os's need restarts often just to keep things nice.

But continue to show your ignorance, no problem. It's like growing bag-seed and thinking it's top notch. Whatever works for you.

 

[Mala Tempora]

Why? Just because I know more then you?

LOL - I have both machines, pc & macs. PC is great for gaming. Stand alone gaming machine. That's all it does. I built it for gaming with parts I ordered from all the usual suppliers of pc parts. I guess it was about $900 all in.

But, I also own a 20" imac that I paid $750 for (used, I seldom buy new but for my laptops) and a macbook pro.

So, when I speak of ease of use and productivity, at least I come from experience and not ignorance like yourself.

Prejudice is contempt prior to investigation.

And my mac laptop, which only restarts upon new installs, has been running for 4.5 months from last restart.

I don't know about windows 7, but I know for a fact that that is impossible for xp and vista. Those os's need restarts often just to keep things nice.

But continue to show your ignorance, no problem. It's like growing bag-seed and thinking it's top notch. Whatever works for you.

As I've said already, I own both machines too (an Imac, that is). And I've used all of the modern desktop Macs. They're good computers. I just think they're overpriced and pretentious. And from my limited experience with the laptops, they also seem like extremely good machines (aside from the Macbook Air). And I can tell you don't know very much. DOS is nothing like the modern-day Windows. Different interface, different kernel - different OS all together. An XP installation can run for months, and doesn't need to restart upon a new installation (though obviously there are various factors that may affect the run time before a restart is necessary). The only person I've known that has bothered to record how long their XP desktop ran before they restarted counted 75 days, and it was only restarted to save power.

And no, I'm calling you an idiot because you come here calling names and making assertions that you won't back up with fact.

 

[montehierba]

MAC

 

[MoldyFrogToe]

iiiiii looooooooooove myyyyyyy maccccccccc why was i using pc's for 15 years WHY!?!?!?!?!? the only drawbacks are games basically, and a few other things that are effects of a world sucking on the teet of "that's good enough" happy

 

[Norrath]

okay i need to quickly interject the fact this work computer i use for everything sans gaming, never restarts. I didnt know this was a big deal to everyone, so - constantly using power is a good thing now? well count me a waster, this 500w amd64 old dual core, never turns off. im always seeding, always back at the computer, and i only restart when prompted. Sometimes windows xp will want to restart and start counting down, which is tres lame. indeed

it doesnt NEEEEEED to restart, i dont run any anti virus, either. havent since using norton when p3 1ghz were the all the rage, sony came up with VAIO(sp.?) when i stopped using anti virus programs. waste of money, what kind of shit do you people get into? no more downloaded screen savers! no more freeware! no more unreliable pr0n sites! or buy a mac. hah!


im sure the speed decrease in any parts of performance are from max capacity on my drives, for whatever reason it does that. do macs do this too? or maybe it's the 'key case' magnetted to the side...hehe

 

[grapeman]

As I've said already, I own both machines too (an Imac, that is). And I've used all of the modern desktop Macs. They're good computers. I just think they're overpriced and pretentious. And from my limited experience with the laptops, they also seem like extremely good machines (aside from the Macbook Air). And I can tell you don't know very much. DOS is nothing like the modern-day Windows. Different interface, different kernel - different OS all together. An XP installation can run for months, and doesn't need to restart upon a new installation (though obviously there are various factors that may affect the run time before a restart is necessary). The only person I've known that has bothered to record how long their XP desktop ran before they restarted counted 75 days, and it was only restarted to save power.

And no, I'm calling you an idiot because you come here calling names and making assertions that you won't back up with fact.

In fact, windows is just a graphical interface on TOP of DOS. This is the main reason windows basically sucks. Still running an ancient OS. I do hear however, that 7 is a bit better. I'll probably never know. Already too tired of dicking around with the pos operating system that is windows .

 

[Mala Tempora]

In fact, windows is just a graphical interface on TOP of DOS. This is the main reason windows basically sucks. Still running an ancient OS. I do hear however, that 7 is a bit better. I'll probably never know. Already too tired of dicking around with the pos operating system that is windows .

This shows why I called you an idiot. You're just repeating your old points, without backing them up. You seem to think that because DOS was a CLI-based OS, and modern-day Windows is GUI-based, that means that the modern Windows OS is just a GUI on top of DOS, which is nonsense. They are absolutely nothing alike. They use different kernels, different interfaces, and are different in almost every single way. Research this yourself and come back when you decide to talk out of your mouth, rather than your ass.

 

[Kaneh]

Mac is so cool if u have the money to go with !!

I don't think that Mac laptops are more expensive than PCs.
AND you can sell your Macbook after 5 years and get decent money.
Have you ever tried to sell old PC-laptop?
GOOD LUCK!!!
5 year old PC is hazardous waste, you have to give money to get rid of it! LOL

 

[grapeman]

This shows why I called you an idiot. You're just repeating your old points, without backing them up. You seem to think that because DOS was a CLI-based OS, and modern-day Windows is GUI-based, that means that the modern Windows OS is just a GUI on top of DOS, which is nonsense. They are absolutely nothing alike. They use different kernels, different interfaces, and are different in almost every single way. Research this yourself and come back when you decide to talk out of your mouth, rather than your ass.

Not true. Still dos buried deep inside there.

 

[jd4083]

I don't think that Mac laptops are more expensive than PCs.
AND you can sell your Macbook after 5 years and get decent money.
Have you ever tried to sell old PC-laptop?
GOOD LUCK!!!
5 year old PC is hazardous waste, you have to give money to get rid of it! LOL

You don't think macs are more expensive than equivalent pc's? really dude? Just look around and you'll see that they're at least double the cost...

 

[smokefrogg]

from my experience regarding inexperienced computer users

the initial investment of the mac is more than a standard pc, but after the course of a couple years the total cost is less, ie. less trips to the pc repair guy to fix virus and spyware infections, less trips to the pc repair guy to "speed the pc up" because it has just plain slown down after a year of use...not to mention the time to do these things, sometimes the user will take their pc in and not get it back for 2~4 weeks, so we must include that downtime as well

initial cost is more, total cost of ownership is generally less with macs, not to mention that they retain their resale value moreso than a pc generally does

of course an experienced user may be different, if they are careful and proactive they may very well avoid the slow down and virus/malware issues altogether

this is for a regular user, i think about it in a completely different way than the above for our work team since i am the fixit guy hehe

 

[Kaneh]

You don't think macs are more expensive than equivalent pc's? really dude? Just look around and you'll see that they're at least double the cost...

Please show me equivalent PC to Macbook (999$).

2.26GHz : 250GB
2.26GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
2GB DDR3 memory
250GB hard drive1
8x double-layer SuperDrive
NVIDIA GeForce 9400M graphics
Built-in 7-hour battery2
Multi-Touch trackpad
LED-backlit display
Virus/malware free OS
movie and DVD-production software
Music production software
photosoftware

Let's say we use this laptop 3 years and then sell it.
Include costs of programs and updates for that time (approx).

 

[Mala Tempora]

The HP Pavilion dv3-2300 has almost the exact same specs as the Macbook, with 1gb more RAM, Intel Core i3 processor, and a few more goodies. They also come with antivirus and a bundle of more software, and it costs less. In a few more years it will probably be worth next to nothing though, as computers tend to become superseded extremely quickly nowadays. Having said that, in (I think) 1999 I bought an Imac for about £800. Three years later I went to sell it and didn't bother, as the going rate was about £50. I was going to make it into a fish tank.

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

this ain't 1999...

Here is what the iMac I paid $1200 for in 2006 is worth now...

Used 20" iMac Intel Core Duo/2.0 GHz

2 GB of RAM
250 GB internal drive
Internal SuperDrive
No keyboard
Airport Extreme and Bluetooth installed
ATI Radeon X1600XL-128MB video
Built-in iSight
20" TFT display
Certified Pre-Owned Mac with 90 day warranty
OS CD is not included
OS 10.4.8 installed
$1019.00

http://www.powermax.com/parts/code/PM_CU_IM_IN

they'd give me nearly 700 on trade in.

 

[Hammerhead]

This is what I got for 800$

•Box Contents: ASUS K61IC-A2 Notebook, AC Adapter, 6-cell Battery; Software: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit, ASUS Utility, 2-Year Limited Global Warranty, 1-Year Accidental Damage Warranty
•Intel Core 2 Duo P8700 2.53GHz Processor
•3MB L2 Cache, 1066MHz FSB
•4GB DDR2 800MHz RAM
•320GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive
•16 WXGA 1366x768 16:9 Glossy
•Integrated 1.3MP Webcamera
•nVIDIA GeForce GT 220M with 1GB DDR2 VRAM
•Blu-Ray Read/DVD±R/RW Drive with Double Layer Combo
•802.11a/b/g/n Wireless LAN
•10/100/1000 Base-T Ethernet LAN
•Built-in speaker Altec Lancing SRS and microphone
•Card reader
•Ports: 4 x USB 2.0, RJ-45 (LAN), Headphone-out (with S/PDIF), Microphone-in, VGA, HDMI
•Dimensions (WxDxH): 14.8 x 10.24 x 1.3~1.4 inches
•Weight: 5.7 pounds

I dont think anyone will convince the other to change what they like. If your a Mac or PC lover great as long as your happy with what you got.

 

[LolaGal]

Macs Rule,
PCs drool.

I can still sell my 12 year old Mac Power Book for $1200. Can you sell your 12 year old PC at ANY price?

 

[Mala Tempora]

I really don't think the high resale value of a Mac is an advantage. I'm still oblivious as to why anybody would pay that much for a second hand Mac, when they could get a brand new PC for slightly less than that price, with superior hardware.

Example:

- Choice of Ice Box OR EZ Cool MA661 Case
- Choice of Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 OR Intel Core 2 Quad Q8400 CPU
- Asrock G31M-S Motherboard
- ATI HD 4670 1GB PCI Express Graphics Card
- 4GB (2 X 2GB) Kingston PC6400 800MHz DDR2 Ram
- 500GB 7200rpm SATA II Hard Drive
- LG 22x Dual Layer DVD +/- Rewriter
- Integrated 5.1 Channel Audio
- Onboard 10/100Mbps Ethernet
- 23" Digimate 1920x1080 1k:1 5ms
- Choice of Windows 7 Home Premium OR Windows Vista Home Premium OR Windows XP Home
- Standard Multimedia Keyboard & Optical Mouse
- 2 Years Return To Base Warranty

£630, from the first site that popped up on Google.

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

I really don't think the high resale value of a Mac is an advantage.

buying a product that does not depreciate in value is usually considered advantageous.

I'm still oblivious as to why anybody would pay that much for a second hand Mac, when they could get a brand new PC for slightly less than that price, with superior hardware.

Because the whole is greater than the sum of its parts, and people use macs regularly get spoiled by them.

It's like buying a Mercedes or a Hyundai... both will get you to the same spot in similar comfort and one will do so cheaper.... but the benz is going to hold it's value longer because it is a better product with a better reputation.

 

[unthing]

When Amiga makes a comeback it will rule them all.

 

[Hammerhead]

There are plenty of Macs here for cheap

http://apple-deals.info/macbook_pro.php