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Long flowering Sativa VS shorter flowering sativa.....

Long flowering Sativa VS shorter flowering sativa.....

  • Longer (11+)

    Votes: 90 70.9%
  • Shorter (9-11)

    Votes: 37 29.1%

  • Total voters
    127

bigwity

Active member
Veteran
im on week 4 of flower on both my sativa's not sure what the are they have lots of popcorns on them no trichs yet but they wont be long, ive been wondering how long they will take im cetainly not gonna wait 100days
 
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mexilandrace

why is a microwave meal not as good as one that took two hours to cook?
 

titoon29

Travelling Cannagrapher Penguin !
Veteran
a little out of subject on uvb

The effect of ultraviolet radiation on the accumulation of medicinal compounds in plants Wen Jing Zhang a said:
"Pate [95] cites older literature suggesting that UV-B radia-
tion promotes cannaboid production in Cannabis and also
speculates about cannaboid evolution. Plots of estimated UV-B
exposure in different growth places shows an increase in Δ9-
tetrahydrocannabinol (Δ9-THC) with exposure, but a decrease
in cannabidiol.
Lydon [96] and Lydon et al.[97] found that in
both leaf and floral tissues the concentration of Δ9-THC but not
of other cannabinoids increased linearly with UV-B exposure
in drug-type Cannabis sativa plants, but not in fiber-
type plants of the same species. Nowadays many sites on the
Internet show that the dependency of cannabinol accumula-
tion on UV-B radiation is common knowledge among private
entrepreneurs in the drug industry.
It is not known which enzyme or enzymes for Δ9-
tetrahydrocannabinol biosynthesis are induced or stimulated
by UV-B radiation, but one can speculate. The gene for poly-
ketide synthase catalyzing the synthesis of olivetolic acid
possesses strong sequence homology with chalcone synthase
and may have evolved from this. Chalcone synthase is one of
the classic UV-B-regulated enzymes.

([95] Pate DW. Econ Bot 1983;37:396.
[96] Lydon J. Effects of ultraviolet-B radiation on the growth, physiology
and cannabinoid production of Cannabis sativa L. Ph.D. thesis, Univ. of
Maryland, College Park, MD, USA. 1986. p. 117.
[97] Lydon J, Teramura A, Coffman CB. Photochem Photobiol 1987;46:201. [116] Bennetts HW, Underwood EJ, Shier FL. Aust J Agric Res 1946;22:131.
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and about those sativas, still i ld say 11 weeks is no sativa, maybe dominant but far from any very uplifting high.. and i ve smoked the C99, the ssh quick phenos...

here is a nigerian at ten weeks, supposed to be pure sativa.
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bigwity

Active member
Veteran
ill keep an eye on trichs i like it when they are mirrored on indica i have still to tested the sativas
 

eugenegreen

herbalist
Veteran
An old hippie said to me once... :whistling:

"If it goes long (meaning weeks), the high's long!"

Verbatim!

Words to live by.... But what do I know :D
 

jgrow

Member
Ive only been blessed with the chance once to smoke a nice sativa and im sure it was still a hybrid. The high lasted a good 3.5 hours and it was such an up lifting high that left you feeling good not burnt out. The bud was also a very deep purplish color it was beautiful. I long for the day that i can grow something so amazing.
 

SoloGro57

Member
If you're looking for landrace characteristics in a plant with short flowering time try some of DJ Short's gear.

Flo and F13 finish in 7-8 weeks. F13 is very trippy and will make you hallucinate. As far as ceiling goes, I have smoked it til I passed out. It is NOT racy, and will not keep you from sleeping. Finally, in moderation, F13 is very clear-headed. You get high, but you're able to accomplish things. Awesome stuff.
 

FoCo(No.Co)

Barned
Veteran
Plots of estimated UV-B
exposure in different growth places shows an increase in Δ9-
tetrahydrocannabinol (Δ9-THC) with exposure, but a decrease
in cannabidiol.

Does this mean that the test subjects where grown outdoors? You cannot isolate UVB as a variable outdoors, and thus cannot assume correlation = causation. Is that entire abstract posted somewhere online? I'd like to read the entire thing.

Awesome pics by the way, that's what I like to see.
 

titoon29

Travelling Cannagrapher Penguin !
Veteran
Does this mean that the test subjects where grown outdoors? You cannot isolate UVB as a variable outdoors, and thus cannot assume correlation = causation. Is that entire abstract posted somewhere online? I'd like to read the entire thing.

Awesome pics by the way, that's what I like to see.

thanks!
not sure about indoor or outdoor... i do have only this in the publication The effect of ultraviolet radiation on the accumulation of medicinal compounds in plants , i believe the one you re looking for is the 95 in references. but i don t have it.

here is the image attached to this text
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edit: i m not sure but by the figure label it could be indoor, seems they modified the spectrum..
anyway i feel a bit bad it is out of the subject a bit... even if i hope using mh spectrum brings some nice uvbs to my tropical sativa :)
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C21H30O2

I have ridden the mighty sandworm.
Veteran
at this moment i am looking at sacks of blue dream, white widow x green crack, purple kush, satori, super silver haze, grape ape and a rock of has the size of a testicle. I have smoked kali mist, sour d, bubbba, jack the ripper, jack herer, neviles haze, and so many more that its almost a sin. But never have I been high like I was when I got a sample of thaihaze. Long flowering cut 16 -18 weeks, beyond high, like in a different world. so high you cannot function smoking it daily and it gets you fuked time and time again. Smoking hat everyday was like doing a half dose of schrooms every day.
 
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unthing

I wonder how long that nigerian will take..at 10 weeks it's just beginning, or so it seems.
 

funkervogt

donut engineer
Veteran
Since I've converted to vertical in my flower chamber I have a lot more options in terms of how I grow, and I've really been considering a 12-16 week 'situation'. I can fit 3 big plants or 4 small plants around my 250 W. I figure I can keep my short-flowering clones going for most of this space and reserve 1/4-1/3rd of the cab for a test sativa.

I'm aching to pop Sam's O'Haze x Skunk #1 freebies just to see what happens. I feel like it's high-end bagseed or something. Bravo, long-flowering mates, I want to join your ranks.
 

yoss33

Well-known member
Veteran
GET MO, the answer to your question "Is it worth it for the extra weeks of flower? " is subjective. Some people find it worth, others don't. No one can tell you if it's worth >for you<.
I personally would wait not 12 weeks, but a year if needed, to get the pure sativa high. The hybrids are nice and potent, but can't take you where the true sativa can.
If I have a choice, I'd rather smoke a "weak" undeveloped 11-week thai or HOG bud than a mature 11-week hybrid bud.
 
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deathtosoapbar

GET MO, sam skunkmans Original haze x sk#1 is what you need for a very intense sativa high, im sure sams thaihaze xsk#1 is also very similar, certain phenos of sams oh x sk#1 are simply RIDICULOUS in its intensity, NOTHING can touch that strain for up powerful high, its very hard to describe the high as its absolutely nothing like a conventional short flowering sativa, the high is worth it IT is THE STRONGEST sativa ive ever tried by far, downsides are a few hermies possible, though not been very common in the packs ive had, takes forever to finish, doesnt have any bag appeal (not that that matters to me) and also it doesnt really smell like what youd expect from weed, but grow it in order to shock yourself at its power!
 
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unthing

12 weeks is not that much if have other stuff running along and don't have (much) ecomonic interest in it. I wanna try those long flowering sativas (atleast 12 weeks-to 20 or so..) but the flowering time isn't my main concern, I'm more afraid that I lack the skills to keep them happy, but someday I'll be able..
 
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bakunin15

The single biggest game changer for me in growing these long flowering sativas was trying to flower from cuts with no veg time in smaller pots. It finished quicker with more intense smells and an obvious increase in "bag appeal" and potency...it just finished to completion that much better. And it can yield more then indicas that were vegged for six weeks or so!

Going 12/12 from seed is not the same. Sams Ohaze x Skunk1 when I foolishly went 12/12 straight from seed, took 18 weeks and looked terrible and the smoke was less then spectacular. However, the cut I took from her took only 13 weeks and is definitely some of the best shit i've ever had.

I don't know why this is the case, I just know from my experience that its true
 

lasko

Member
I dont now brodas i cant decide long or short

a 50-60 dayz ciskei bushman
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a 70 dayz nepalese highlands
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a 14 weeks cascadia destroyer
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a 15 weeks oaxaca


or 210 dayz mauritius
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all sativas all good high but totaly different
on bushman you act like on cocaine on mauritius you fly

:smokeit:
 

gkn

Active member
seems that the best and purest sativa cannabionoid profiles take long time to cook...but for me, it's completely worth the waiting...
anyway, today there are some 100% sativa hybrids wich finish quite quickly, like Panama from ACE seeds, and some of their other hybrids (sativa-sativa hybrid).

saludos
 

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