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[Weird]

i have some alfalfa meal, recommendations for use in tea?

 

[BlueJayWay]

^^^^ up to 1 cup per 5gal water, if they are already a darker green I use no more than 1/2 cup, brewed 24 hrs.

 

[MrSterling]

Why do so many people on the ic have smurf avatars?

 

[BlueJayWay]

Never thought of it lol, but smurfs are fuckin awesome, love me some smurfette, especially when I'm all smurfed up, we have a smurfin good time, smurf ya later!

 

[John Deere]

 

[vonforne]

matt rize

Where is old Matt these dayz? He could fill us in on the Root food soil food web or something. lol

V

 

[IncredibowlBoss]

Where is old Matt these dayz? He could fill us in on the Root food soil food web or something. lol

V

Most recently spotted getting into huge arguments on facebook with anyone who makes BHO.

 

[BlueJayWay]

Specifically those that blow themselves up in the process, I say blow yourselves up if you're that dumb

 

[IncredibowlBoss]

Specifically those that blow themselves up in the process, I say blow yourselves up if you're that dumb

I assume that most of the heads in this sort of deep organics thread probably don't want non-organic solvents all up in their hash, to boot!

But Rize has chilled out since one the most prominent oil makers in Denver made this hillarious video (which, to Rize's credit, he posted on his own FB page): http://vimeo.com/49129613?COLLCC=2137353339&

 

[vonforne]

Dry sift........it is so much more natural.

V

 

[IncredibowlBoss]

Dry sift........it is so much more natural.

V

Dry Sift is by far the best quality hash - I'm an icewater guy myself, but mostly cause I have bags, not sifter screeens

 

[vonforne]

I use the mud bags also. But I like me some good ole dry sift for the head. I hardly ever smoke buds in the last few months. Can´t wait for the OD to finish up. Lots of trim and left over bud there.

V

 

[vonforne]

Thought you all might like this article

Zoologger: The cyanobacteria destined to be organelles

19:00 20 September 2012 by Andy Coghlan
For similar stories, visit the Zoologger Topic Guide

Zoologger is our weekly column highlighting extraordinary animals – and occasionally other organisms – from around the world

Species: Candidatus Atelocyanobacterium thalassa (provisional)
Habitat: An ocean near you

Every so often biology unveils an organism that demonstrates evolution in action. More rarely, it offers up a twofer. Deep in the world's oceans, biologists have found a species of cyanobacterium that may be midway the process of becoming an organelle within a species of algae.

Candidatus Atelocyanobacterium thalassa is a cyanobacterium like no other. Its streamlined genome shows that it excels at grabbing nitrogen from the water and turning it into a form (ammonium) that organisms can handle. But it lacks the genes for photosynthesis that other marine cyanobacteria use to generate their food. Unusually for a cyanobacterium, it must rely on another organism for its food.

"It was hard to see how it could ever be a free-living organism," says Jonathan Zehr at the University of California, Santa Cruz. With his colleagues, Zehr has now identified that mystery second organism. It's a tiny type of algae called a prymnesiophyte.

What makes the marriage exciting from an evolutionary viewpoint is that it could turn out to be an example of a halfway stage towards the cyanobacterium eventually becoming an organelle within the alga – a huge evolutionary step for both organisms. Zehr's team demonstrated through delicate experiments that the cyanobacterium is closely enough associated with the alga that the two remain together during cell sorting – but filtering can separate the pair.

That suggests the cyanobacterium lives on the surface of the alga, perhaps in little depressions. This distinguishes it from other cyanobacteria that also have formed symbiotic relationships with algae. Most famously, one photosynthetic cyanobacterium found its way inside an alga billions of years ago, ultimately becoming the first chloroplast – the organelles where all plants fix carbon through photosynthesis.

Zehr speculates that some undiscovered algae may already have fully assimilated nitrogen-fixing bacteria like Candidatus Atelocyanobacterium thalassa. If such an alga exists, it would be the first member of the plant kingdom discovered that could fix its own nitrogen without relying on external organisms. "What we've found is a model for the beginning stages of how organelles may have evolved on Earth," he says.

And that could have implications for agriculture. It would make sense to genetically engineer staple crops to fix their own nitrogen and reduce the need for expensive and environmentally damaging fertilisers. Yet while some plants, including legumes, can rely on terrestrial root bacteria to provide them with ammonium, researchers have struggled to generate crops that can do the same. The signals that pass between the root bacteria and legumes are just too complex to interpret and copy.

"The cyanobacterium provides a different model for how you might create interactions with plants," says Zehr. Ultimately, then, the research could potentially lead to a new way to feed the world – not a bad outcome from filtering seawater.

Journal reference: Science DOI: 10.1126/science.1222700

http://www.newscientist.com/article...-cyanobacteria-destined-to-be-organelles.html

 

[MrSterling]

I wish I had a good excuse for my dislike of BHO, but I don't. The production, the smoking, the product itself, it all just makes my skin crawl. Reminds me of the vibe surrounding meth. When did old fashioned hash stop being good enough?

 

[shmalphy]

That video is hilarious...

 

[Budwhyser]

I couldn't think of any as a foliar spray. Far better would be to use an alfalfa tea to drench your rooting medium since I assume you're looking for a couple of specific Auxin and the other 'rooting hormone' - correct?

CC[/QUOTE]
Thanks for your response CC Yes exactly. I did use the elixir of yours with Aloe Vera, BioAg Ful-power and Protek to soak the medium prior to placing the cuts, but I usually have an issue where some of the leaves yellow prior to rooting and was wondering if the Alfalfa tea used as a foliar spray on the young cuts might help to prevent that without burning them

I also just received some dried stinging nettle leaves I recently ordered. Kinda excited about seeing how they benefit the health of my plants

 

[BlueJayWay]

I use the mud bags also. But I like me some good ole dry sift for the head. I hardly ever smoke buds in the last few months. Can´t wait for the OD to finish up. Lots of trim and left over bud there.

V

Since the topic came up, what might you recommend for dry sift? Does the brand matter a lot less than the screen/mesh size?

I've been saving all my sugar trim and its piling up lol that's for sure. Never got into hash making myself but I think it's about time. Like yourself I am veering towards a dry sift extraction because it obviously seems the most natural and least refined. I was going to try qwiso with 95% everclear because it seems so easy and it being a grain alcohol i felt a lot better about that in lieu of isopropyl which contains propene - a byproduct of the petroleum industry, but I really want to get some dry sift gear, not sure which route to go to and not get ripped off in the process.

 

[shmalphy]

I don't see how dry sift is more "natural" it requires relatively sophisticated engineered equipment (those type of screens haven't been around for more than 100 years or so)

I like dry sift, but it simply can't compare to bubble. I find my screen gets clogged way too quick and I lose too much to residual loss, mainly because I can't keep the glands cold enough through the process. If I had a walk in freezer, I would be all about dry sift.

Here is some bubble I made today. First run, 4 min by hand with a wooden spoon

I also get the benefit of using the water as a botanical tea, which helps my soil and plants.

 

[schwagg]

dry ice extraction?

 

[BlueJayWay]

Natural in the sense of finished product being in a form most closely to the form in which it was on the plant - that's how I meant it anyways and simply being "shaken" off the plant certainly seems to fit that description. You're thinkin' too much shmalphy . Gone through water is one small step extra and doesn't change any chemical composition that I know of - splitting hairs now...