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MrSterling

I've been working through "Botany for Gardeners" by Brian Capon. Excellent read so far, if any of you want to know more about the science behind plants. Just finished a chapter explaining how auxin migration in stems causes plants to lean towards the light. Super cool.
 

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What form of alfalfa are they selling? If you can get bales of dried Alfalfa you're way, way ahead of the deal vs. Alfalfa meal or Alfalfa pellets.....

Bales of dried are almost nothing - like $10.00 for 5 years worth. Probably longer.

Buy a bale, keep about 20% for your garden and use the rest to create a compost pile with some horse manure and some of this and some of that. Including the rock dust/gravel material.

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gregor mendel

What form of alfalfa are they selling? If you can get bales of dried Alfalfa you're way, way ahead of the deal vs. Alfalfa meal or Alfalfa pellets.....

Bales of dried are almost nothing - like $10.00 for 5 years worth. Probably longer.

Buy a bale, keep about 20% for your garden and use the rest to create a compost pile with some horse manure and some of this and some of that. Including the rock dust/gravel material.

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Haha, you'd like the components of my compost heap then it sounds like.
 

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gregor mendel

What form of alfalfa are they selling? If you can get bales of dried Alfalfa you're way, way ahead of the deal vs. Alfalfa meal or Alfalfa pellets.....

Bales of dried are almost nothing - like $10.00 for 5 years worth. Probably longer.

Buy a bale, keep about 20% for your garden and use the rest to create a compost pile with some horse manure and some of this and some of that. Including the rock dust/gravel material.

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If you use bales of alfalfa in your garden be aware that there could be loads of weed seeds in it, and there not the good kind of weeds.....scrappy
 

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What form of alfalfa are they selling? If you can get bales of dried Alfalfa you're way, way ahead of the deal vs. Alfalfa meal or Alfalfa pellets.....

They sell bales, the same size as standard straw bales. They also sell pellets, but I assumed they would take a while to break down.

If bales are better than meal, I'm happy to get those. It would save a lot of time over scrounging on the floor for loose stuff.
 
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In my experience pellets break down quite easily. They fall apart immediately in teas and break down quite quickly in my compost heap.
 
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So, some kelp tea (cause Sunday is tea day around here). It is probably a little on the too dark side...huh? Fortunately the plants are in a kinda explosive growth stage so I am thinking they can handle it.

Plus the other pic is one of those "hard to dial in strains that need several grows and special food and the moon being in the right phase". What a crock of shit...it looks ok to me getting the same ol dreck the rest of the plants are being fed :biggrin:
 
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So, some kelp tea (cause Sunday is tea day around here). It is probably a little on the too dark side...huh? Fortunately the plants are in a kinda explosive growth stage so I am thinking they can handle it.

Plus the other pic is one of those "hard to dial in strains that need several grows and special food and the moon being in the right phase". What a crock of shit...it looks ok to me getting the same ol dreck the rest of the plants are being fed :biggrin:


Are your ladies flowering now?
 

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The binder used in livestock pellets is molasses. It's a long story on why pellets will be replacing Alfalfa meal and much of it has to do with keeping the product intact and to reduce dust.

Until you get your sea legs on growing organically, it would be my strong suggestion that you do not add Alfalfa meal to the soil but rather use it for quick-brew teas. A cup of Alfalfa pellets bouncing around in 5 gallons of water for a couple of days will give you the results that you want and avoid any of the problems that might arise with using one of the rawest soil amendments. Only Kelp is in this range.

Other amendments from plants are often seed meals meaning that the seeds were harvested, the oils pressed out and the residue called either meal or cake is sold for livestock feeds, soil amendments, etc. Alfalfa meal is not a seed meal at all.

Kelp meal is available from a number of packers and it's all from Nova Scotia so it doesn't matter if the label says E.B. Stone, Dr. Earths, Fertrell, Light House, Acadian Seaplants, Neptune's Harvest (Kelp meal only), Down To Earth, whomever. Buy on price and price only.

IMHO, kelp is all important and cannot be replaced or duplicated with other amendments. Liquid seaweed products (like Maxicrop) are not even close to kelp meal. Never. Ever. Regardless of the claims on the bottle.

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So, some kelp tea (cause Sunday is tea day around here). It is probably a little on the too dark side...huh? Fortunately the plants are in a kinda explosive growth stage so I am thinking they can handle it.

Plus the other pic is one of those "hard to dial in strains that need several grows and special food and the moon being in the right phase". What a crock of shit...it looks ok to me getting the same ol dreck the rest of the plants are being fed :biggrin:
You mean like those ol' mean 'Magnesium Hungry' strains or even better, 'Nitrogen Hungry' - and I'm sure there are a ton of others.

As a group they could be collectively called 'Money Hungry' for the admirable goal of 'truth in advertising' but I'm not holding my breath.

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You mean like those ol' mean 'Magnesium Hungry' strains or even better, 'Nitrogen Hungry' - and I'm sure there are a ton of others.

As a group they could be collectively called 'Money Hungry' for the admirable goal of 'truth in advertising' but I'm not holding my breath.

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Tis indeed one of the most hyped strains in the world. I find it exactly no harder than any other strain to grow.

It is kinda a world of bag appeal and taste anymore it seems to me. And if you give OGs anything you gotta give em those two qualities.

I am a sativa lover for effect myownself...but who is to say my opinion is better than anyone else...not me. I grow em cause people want em...I occasionally smoke one when I need to go to sleep and I admit, taste is excellent.

I could totally give one shit about bag appeal.
 
Tis indeed one of the most hyped strains in the world. I find it exactly no harder than any other strain to grow.

It is kinda a world of bag appeal and taste anymore it seems to me. And if you give OGs anything you gotta give em those two qualities.

I am a sativa lover for effect myownself...but who is to say my opinion is better than anyone else...not me. I grow em cause people want em...I occasionally smoke one when I need to go to sleep and I admit, taste is excellent.

I could totally give one shit about bag appeal.

MOST of the OG hype is an overblown evaluation of their terpenes and flavonoids, BUT the first time I smoked Ghost's cut was one of the highest experiences of my life,
 

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I bought an ounce that is a strain much discussed in this part of the world, highly sought after, etc. What I bought was grown, dried & cured perfectly. Probably better than I on the trimming, i.e. this had the bag appeal, aroma, color, everything you could ask for. Much credit to the grower.

"That's it?" - my review
 
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MrSterling

"Don't you know OG is FIRE, brah. I've got twenty different cuts, including the legendary Ghost Jedi Triple-Sec Marinara OG, brah. This shit is FIRE!" I could go the rest of my life without hearing that word used that way again.
 
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