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[Gascanastan]

Its like you're telling a bed time story.

"Daddy, can you tell it again? It's my favorite" lol

Smoke some 80 day 'The One' and it's all about bedtime after the slight fatigue of deciphering what things are moving around you or not.....or if it's just you.


Oh yeah...If anyone knows 'Sasquatch' from Tonasket...he passed away yesterday. Died w/his mouth open.....as in life he talked a whole bunch. He used to get me in the main circle free of logistical BS. From The Grateful Dead lot through Phish...and proliferating in the scene for years. RIP bro~

 

[Seandawg]

Smoke some 80 day 'The One' and it's all about bedtime after the slight fatigue of deciphering what things are moving around you or not.....or if it's just you.


Oh yeah...If anyone knows 'Sasquatch' from Tonasket...he passed away yesterday. Died w/his mouth open.....as in life he talked a whole bunch. From Dead lot through Phish...and proliferating in the scene for years. RIP bro~

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I've never known Sasquatch but RIP none the less. Aloha Oe.

Gas, personal question (also to anyone else that would like to put in their two cents). How long do you like to cure for? Some cure one month minimum. I've heard of people curing for a year?!? In your opinion, what is perfect and what is "too much"? I'm just curious is all...

SD

 

[Ouzo180]

I prefer at least 2 month cure, some strains don't even near their potential until then. I have a Super Silver Haze that tastes more like green tea/cream at the beginning but moves into the citrus pallette after 2 months cure.

I wont release before 2 weeks cure, would make it longer but there are many patients who do not understand the process and are impatient (hehe.) I just know they wouldn't keep up on the burping and 2 weeks is usually sufficient burping time IME.

 

[Gascanastan]

I've never known Sasquatch but RIP none the less. Aloha Oe.

Gas, personal question (also to anyone else that would like to put in their two cents). How long do you like to cure for? Some cure one month minimum. I've heard of people curing for a year?!? In your opinion, what is perfect and what is "too much"? I'm just curious is all...

SD

All my personal flowers go into jars as soon as they can. From there the moisture level is maintained by opening each jar for a specific amount of time depending on the type of herb and moisture level.

The Kali Mist took forever to dry...and then another month or so of jar monitoring for a decent smoke.

On the other hand something like the Durban did dry quickly and cure quickly.

Type depending on how fast the moisture wants to leave,cell wall thickness,etc...

Seems after some time in the jars a degradation begins to happen. Flowers turn a golden color..obviously from oxidation..even in jars. Somewhere around 5 to 6 months they get a really gold color rather than green...like the old imports.

Jars in a freezer would proly halt that 'gold-ing' process.

....and there's where all my work goes to shit because I didn't flush...

 

[YosemiteSam]

Along those lines...does it seem sativas need more cure than indicas? I have come to refuse to let a sativa with less than a month cure out. Indicas...well I am less than a shining example...soon as it stabalizes around 55% RH in a container out the door it goes

 

[Gascanastan]

Along those lines...does it seem sativas need more cure than indicas? I have come to refuse to let a sativa with less than a month cure out. Indicas...well I am less than a shining example...soon as it stabalizes around 55% RH in a container out the door it goes

I notice more time for sativa..especially to get the full spectrum sativa effect.

Then again I let my personal satty's dry on the stem.

But yeah..as soon as the product is stable it's good to go. It's up to Joe Smoker at the local dispenz if he wants to jar it after that...his choice..and IME not many people really give a fuck that walk through those doors anyway,whether it be chemi or organic...cured or not... ..except me or my other anal organic friends.

 

[Ouzo180]

Along those lines...does it seem sativas need more cure than indicas? I have come to refuse to let a sativa with less than a month cure out. Indicas...well I am less than a shining example...soon as it stabalizes around 55% RH in a container out the door it goes

Not always of course, lol....
There is an excellent cut of L.A. Cheese around here that many might overlook while growing, but after 2 months cure that is some delicious cheesy goodness.
I think your right on the sativa side though, most if not all the sativa's I have run definitely got better with age.
Not sure but I think if you cure too long you might get too many CBN's (makes me sleepy) from degradation but DJ Short says his favorites are 2 year cured equatorial sativa's, so what do I know...lol.
I feel too long a cure looses its bag appeal also, but if its just for you then it's not a factor.

 

[Seandawg]

Thank you all for your responses! I really like what I'm hearing right now, but I myself am a very small personal consumer. And the thought of standards before out to market is one thing, I am more concerned with growers personal standards. Like drying on stalk for personal consumption, curing two months minimum because its for me not because its going out to market. Does that make any sense?

Whats your personal standards in regards to curing for personal use?

 

[Gascanastan]

Thank you all for your responses! I really like what I'm hearing right now, but I myself am a very small personal consumer. And the thought of standards before out to market is one thing, I am more concerned with growers personal standards. Like drying on stalk for personal consumption, curing two months minimum because its for me not because its going out to market. Does that make any sense?

Whats your personal standards in regards to curing for personal use?

All my crazy ass personal sativa's dry on the stem...sometimes up to two weeks drying or more before a jar cure begins.

You'll know it when it's done in the jar and ready for smokin'...the effect suddenly changes. Like night and day.

 

[Ouzo180]

I hang dry the whole plant 7-14 days depending on size and strain. When the stems snap I jar them. I usually sample them before they are ready, lol, but I always seem to enjoy them most after 1-2 months cure when I have enough to set aside for future me.

Sampling my strains from 2wks on to 2+ months (if they last that long) has been a good way of familiarizing myself with a strain.

 

[ClackamasCootz]

Whats your personal standards in regards to curing for personal use?

Sean

I shoot for 6 - 8 weeks in jars and that seems to works out with the plants that I grow.

CC

 

[Seandawg]

Sean

I shoot for 6 - 8 weeks in jars and that seems to works out with the plants that I grow.

CC

So the general consensus is about or at least two months. Thanks again!

Im sorry guys for typically asking what could seem like stupid questions. I know my process and how I do things. Im just always interested in hearing others perspectives on what could be perceived as simple processes. Thanks again for sharing!

 

[ClackamasCootz]

Sean

Not a stupid question at all - post-harvest processing is as important as any other one in this deal, IMHO

CC

 

[YosemiteSam]

There is a slight possibility that my process is biased towards sativas. I would be happy never smoking an indica again.

 

[ClackamasCootz]

I would be happy never smoking an indica again

^^^^Yeah - that

 

[Seandawg]

Sean

Not a stupid question at all - post-harvest processing is as important as any other one in this deal, IMHO

CC

I completely agree! The finished product is only as good as it's weakest link.

 

[JoeDudeGuy]

What an obviously great question you started Sean. Thanks !

I hang dry the whole plant 7-14 days depending on size and strain. When the stems snap I jar them.

This is the only way I have found to be a guarantee for no fuzzy bud after jarring. How does anybody who does not follow that simple step not have issues ?

There is a slight possibility that my process is biased towards sativas. I would be happy never smoking an indica again.

I am growing some just for a sleeping-pill replacement for those nights I just can't shut-down ! Otherwise I am 100% on that same page

 

[ClackamasCootz]

Sean

I take a lot of pride in what I grow - regardless of the plant in any of my gardens. I've spent a considerable amount of time learning to grow the best that I'm capable of.

I believe, sincerely, that this effort is reflected in the end product.

CC

 

[Seandawg]

Sean

I take a lot of pride in what I grow - regardless of the plant in any of my gardens. I've spent a considerable amount of time learning to grow the best that I'm capable of.

I believe, sincerely, that this effort is reflected in the end product.

CC

CC

I think that everyone agrees with you completely when it comes to pride, and growing the best we possibly can. If it wasn't a continual goal to grow the best, we all would have stopped our research, reading, and sharing of personal experiences as soon as we learned to build a decent soil.

In addition to the sense of pride that I've acquired learning to grow a perfect plant. Im grateful to have good company here to continue to learn from and share with.

Mahalo nui
SD

 

[ClackamasCootz]

Sean

The 'game changer' for me has been the increased quality from simple sprouted teas. The increase in flavor, aroma and especially the effect is more than I expected to see.

I figured it out - at $.50 per lb. for organic barley seeds and using 2 oz. to make enough base for 8 gallons of tea, that works out to be less than 1 penny per gallon of applied mix.

CC