Living organic soil from start through recycling

[ClackamasCootz]

What are the odds we can pull this compound off with guano, oyster shell, non-pyrolisized wood ash, a couple drops of Doctor Bronner's and some good ol' piss?

IBB

Get a young coconut (aka Thai coconut), cut off the top and remove the water and definitely keep that for another purpose. Take a spoon and scrape the coconut paste from the inside. Use that as your compound and you'll be giving your plants every possible PGR, Auxins, element, enzymes, etc.

For about $2.50 which would give you enough paste to do at least 10 plants.

HTH

CC

 

[Neo 420]

Swami council must meet for launch date.

I would love to be apart of the Swami council but how do we get access to these? (Damn....I have a cut of GSC. Should I run?)lol

 

[Neo 420]

Yes ....leave room for topdressing w/compost,EWC,and/or amendments. I start out with 3 to 4 inches below the top of the pot. Somewhere between transplant and mid-flower I will topdress....I like to wait until I see any lower leaves losing color,but not always....if I have to even topdress at all.

Do you have drain holes?

 

[Gascanastan]

Do you have drain holes?

I have a hole in my head sometimes......and holes in my pants,socks,pockets,gas tank,tires,etc...yeah I got holes in my pots too...I would make a fine example of someone w/a permanent hole in his head if I grew in pots w/no drainage.

 

[ClackamasCootz]

I'm fixing a hole where the rain gets in
And stops my mind from wandering
Where it will go
I'm filling the cracks that ran through the door
And kept my mind from wandering
Where it will go
And it really doesn't matter if I'm wrong
I'm right
Where I belong I'm right
Where I belong.
See the people standing there who disagree and never win

 

[Gascanastan]

Mr Coot's enjoying the DP x BMR^^^

I personally find it borderline trippy....like if I want to feel 'high' I reach for that because it will deliver that effect instantly.

Aeration is important shit..

Keeping up w/drainage and aeration amendments as you recycle is pretty critical....
you'll see it mentioned by the guys who have done the longer no-till pots. Perlite compacts (if you use it) and as we add more material we must add more drainage/aeration material.

I should have added a bit more pumice before this no-till run due to incorporating more compost....but whatever..I'll make it work.

 

[IncredibowlBoss]

IBB

Get a young coconut (aka Thai coconut), cut off the top and remove the water and definitely keep that for another purpose. Take a spoon and scrape the coconut paste from the inside. Use that as your compound and you'll be giving your plants every possible PGR, Auxins, element, enzymes, etc.

For about $2.50 which would give you enough paste to do at least 10 plants.

HTH

CC

Way better than piss.

 

[rrog]

Gas, does this change your recipe on page 1 or such, then?

 

[ClackamasCootz]

Way better than piss.

I started adding young coconut water to the sprouted seed teas this flower cycle. I'm off tomorrow to see what a case at the produce houses will cost (24 each). I did find a organic coconut water that I'm going to purchase today. It is pasteurized but only pressure is used vs. using heat & pressure.

Fair trade. Cost effective (for this application anyway) and the benefits speak for themselves.

A combination of young coconut water and malted barley extracts are used in commercial orchid production as well has serious hobbyists. Also this combination is used in tissue culture propagation at commercial nurseries, tree propagation, etc.

Check it out - pretty interesting combination of 'things' in the pre-formed seed (coconut).

CC

 

[OrganicLearner]

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I keep reading some contradicting info on making quality castings; some places say that the way to get quality worm poo is to let the worms redigest there old castings and some places say that it will poison them..

Was also wondering if it's truely possible to make quality castings by giving the worms in all peat diet? I have recently spoke with a guy who sells castings that everybody raves about and he's saying that all he feeds his worms are peat.

Anyone want to chime in on these topics?

Reposted, sorry guys just wondering

 

[OrganicLearner]

Coconut water is the shit btw way better than Gatorade and supposedly used as an iv on soldiers losing blood in dire circumstances..

 

[ClackamasCootz]

Was also wondering if it's truely possible to make quality castings by giving the worms in all peat diet? I have recently spoke with a guy who sells castings that everybody raves about and he's saying that all he feeds his worms are peat.

This would have to be the longest method possible to create worm castings. Adding peat to mammalian manure is a good thing and not uncommon.

The time required for the microbes in the bin to breakdown straight peat moss would have to be measured in months as in 12 months minimum - and even then.

Go with the best manure you can find and you'll be in good shape.

CC

 

[Microbeman]

Okay Coot, here I come to screw with your high

Still playing with the math on this.

Okay - here's what is on the AgSil 16H label:

Potassium Silicate Guaranteed Analysis
Nitrogen - 0%
Phosphate - 0%
Potassium - 32%
Silica (SiO2) - 52.8%
0.7 grams in 1 gallon of water yields 49 ppm Potassium and 98 ppm SiO2


Dyna-Gro Pro-TeKt Guaranteed Analysis
Potassium: 3.7%
Silicon (SiO2) 7.8%

So how does one take the AgSil and make a gallon of concentrated Pro-TeKt?

Some stuff left out of quote.

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1 PPM is 1/1,000,000 = 0.000001 which would be 0.0001%

Therefore divide (~) by 10,000 to convert to percentage

e.g. - 10 ppm = 10 ~ 10000 = 0.001%

or multiply by 10,000 to convert from percent to PPM

*******************

Potassium - 32%
Silica (SiO2) - 52.8%
0.7 grams in 1 gallon of water yields 49 ppm Potassium and 98 ppm SiO2 [or 46 ppm of Si]

To convert these amounts to percentage;
49 ~ 10,000 = 0.0049% Potassium
98 ~ 10,000 = 0.0098% Silicon

For Agsil 16 we can therefore state that;
0.7 grams in 1 gallon = 0.0049% K & 0.0098% SiO2

We wish to know how much Agsil we would need to use
in 1 gallon to = 3.7% K & 7.8% SiO2
right?

To get very heavy concentrate

If we divide 3.7 by 0.0049 & 7.8 by 0.0098 = 755.1 & 795.9 respectively (x 0.7 grams = very thick sludge it would seem)

To do it another way to verify.

Protekt
PPM 3.7% x 10,000 = 37,000 ppm K
7.8% x 10,000 = 78,000 ppm SiO2

divided by the PPM of Agsil
37,000 ~ 49 = 755.1
78,000 ~ 98 = 795.9

The very heavy concentrate again.

Do an average 755.1 + 795.9 = 775.5 x .7g = 542.85g per gal.
Still seems like an awful lot...right?

Using the dilution instructions for Protekt

This is dilute at ¼ teaspoon or 1.25 ml/gallon for application

Or

1.25 ml ~ 3,785.4 ml (represents 1.25ml/gal) = 0.00033 (or 0.033%) x 542.85 = 0.179 or just under 2 grams per gallon

What do you think?

 

[Gascanastan]

Way better than piss.

...and far better than being pissed off after burning up your plants w/piss.
I do piss on the outdoors here and there. The latest biggest reason...my human scent deters leaf munchers....have dropped a cup or so in the res. on the indoor....can't hurt at that ratio.

I wouldn't rely,promote,or have any other word about it as far as plants go other than it felt great to be able to just piss out there in nature and relieve the bladder knowing it might keep deer away.

Urination.....one of the things that ties the light being to the physical realm. (looking for an upgrade from another planet here..this modern human model is still crude and primitive..I don't particularly enjoy being trapped into operating this human biological unit...hello?.....alien life form in charge of this shit?...hello?...is there anybody out there?..I want an upgrade dammit!.)

....I guess we could move to India take some physical/spritual lessons from the Sadhus...roll the ol penis on a stick for a decade or so smoking hash....

See what the G13 x Haze does^^^

 

[ClackamasCootz]

Okay Coot, here I come to screw with your high

1.25 ml ~ 3,785.4 ml (represents 1.25ml/gal) = 0.00033 (or 0.033%) x 542.85 = 0.179 or just under 2 grams per gallon

What do you think?

MM

That thumping sound is my head hitting the desktop......

LOL

Okay - so what you've worked is that if I use 'around' 2 grams per 1 gallon of water, this would equal how much Pro-TeKt to 1 gallon of water?

Keep in mind that the suggested application rate is far below what I use. I use 1 tablespoon to 1 gallon of water.

How does that one work out? LOL

CC

 

[MrSterling]

Man, I'd love a taste of that.

 

[Microbeman]

8 oz. water + 35 grams AgSil 16H = works flawlessly

Wow, that is basically the same ratio as I got for the heavy concentrate. It isn't thick?

128 ~ 8 = 16 x 35 = 560
I got 542.85

 

[ClackamasCootz]

DP x BMR - definite citrus flavor. Not lemon. Not orange. Not lime. Citrus - hard to describe but very nice without that f*cking 'berry' crap that dominates the Oregon landscape.

"Get over it!" - LMAO

 

[ClackamasCootz]

Wow, that is basically the same ratio as I got for the heavy concentrate. It isn't thick?

MM

Yes and something else that is different is that when I spilled some of the mix and rubbed it between my fingers it was like an oil. A lubricant or something close. I have some Pro-TeKt on hand so I did the same test and it wasn't even close. That could be from my mishandling the product. A gallon lasts me for almost 18 months and I'm sure that there were times when I was measuring some out into a smaller container that I didn't do the best job of shaking it around so that isn't much of a legitimate comparison.

That one really surprised me - very slick feeling.

CC

 

[Microbeman]

MM

That thumping sound is my head hitting the desktop......

LOL

Okay - so what you've worked is that if I use 'around' 2 grams per 1 gallon of water, this would equal how much Pro-TeKt to 1 gallon of water?

Keep in mind that the suggested application rate is far below what I use. I use 1 tablespoon to 1 gallon of water.

How does that one work out? LOL

CC

To get a concentrate equal to the Protekt (according to my math) you would mix 542.85 grams per gallon which is a little lower than the 35 grams in 8 ounces that you mixed. Then from that, if I have not screwed up, you would mix your usual application dilution; eg. 1 tablespoon per gallon.