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Livers aka UK Blues.

skotty

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Sheffield blues..


you can almost smell and taste that berry aniseed chemical dirty rotten lemony dogshit gassy pungent earthy foul repugnant earthy afghan hashy sour toe curling stench in these pics and that's just on the inhale .... she is the ONE


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englishrick

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I know of a few people in the USA who definitely had it,, im sure people will get another shot at it,, just participate and shit comes good,, grow some shit and more shit will grow
 

skotty

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Im not being a **** when i say this but all of my cuts are in circulation there is nothing i have that has not been gifted back...

I know 100% mayhem84 had my sheff blues cut not too long ago..

Maybe you can see what he did with his copy of her...

Bless
 

englishrick

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On the streets its called blues,, when an Asian brings a batch from Birmingham or Sheffield to Oldham suddenly (if its really good) the names are interchangeable,, livers seems to be used to describe that next level blues,, but fuk knows if it's the same cut,, I'm sure I remember elevatormans own words say they were different but then I saw he's said the opposite ,, i have heard people say they are different clones and I originally believed they were as some "blues" did seem different and better,,but honestly it's too difficult to say till you grow loads side by side on identical systems
 

Mayhem84

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Im not being a **** when i say this but all of my cuts are in circulation there is nothing i have that has not been gifted back...

I know 100% mayhem84 had my sheff blues cut not too long ago..

Maybe you can see what he did with his copy of her...

Bless


Tbh ur cut was wot I would call the true blues cut. It was by far the best flavour profile very berry skunky funk iv grown.

Sadly bro I lost her after the second run. Hopefully we can change that soon ; ).

I did not pass her out tho mate so I'm not sure anyone else has had the chance at ur 1 bro.
 

skotty

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Tbh ur cut was wot I would call the true blues cut. It was by far the best flavour profile very berry skunky funk iv grown.

Sadly bro I lost her after the second run. Hopefully we can change that soon ; ).

I did not pass her out tho mate so I'm not sure anyone else has had the chance at ur 1 bro.

100% my g ....

Ive just spoke to my guy whos is running some ugorg premier sweet seeds and also their blues....

he says that in veg my sheff blues cut is louder and he also said its night and day on there version vs the real cut.... did ugorg use the livers and not the sheff blues cut?

This could explain it but either way ugorg have out crossed the clones so your always going to loose something.
 

mack 10

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When i grew it in 2000 it was only ever called livers in Sheffield. The story went that it was found by mr livers but probably just a bs story. It was when it started been given out freely through the niche nightclub that the name blues first came about. This is also when it got spread around the UK, the bud and cuts were sold from where ever the after party was. This was before all the charlie and stabbings changed the culture almost over night.

This is same as what I was always told,
. thought.

@ Scotty, nice pix. She really looks like the same cut, if not it's super close.
But who knows.
If yours is as good as you say I'd love to try it one day.

The way you describe the taste and smell is dead on my clone.
 

skotty

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God willing i'll get to try the sheffield blues one day, looks and sounds so awesome.



she is bro same as the exodus cheese... there is nothing that really outshines them in their uniqueness and complexity of there terps


don't get me wrong there are some great cuts out their but none are as unique as those 2... you never forget either of them for the rest of your days ... that's the power they have


bless
 

944s2

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On the streets its called blues,, when an Asian brings a batch from Birmingham or Sheffield to Oldham suddenly (if its really good) the names are interchangeable,, livers seems to be used to describe that next level blues,, but fuk knows if it's the same cut,, I'm sure I remember elevatormans own words say they were different but then I saw he's said the opposite ,, i have heard people say they are different clones and I originally believed they were as some "blues" did seem different and better,,but honestly it's too difficult to say till you grow loads side by side on identical systems

Yes,,,,it gets confusing,,,just recently Greatful H popped over to a mates and smoked a spliff then asked what it was and it was our organic run strawberry and mango but jarred for two months,,,,different taste and potency and guaranteed I would not have known I had grown it,,,,s2
 

Tropical Sativa

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she is bro same as the exodus cheese... there is nothing that really outshines them in their uniqueness and complexity of there terps


don't get me wrong there are some great cuts out their but none are as unique as those 2... you never forget either of them for the rest of your days ... that's the power they have


bless


Sounds so good! If it's as terpy as cheese then I honestly cannot wait to try it some day. :tiphat:
 
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livers#1

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The clone that is passed around online in this thread is the livers. This clone everyone is running was spread out via hemperor, who i think sourced his cut offline.

The cut hemperor passed out is the same as what VRG from UGORG and Elevator man used to hold, although it didnt come directly from them.

If you havent already, read this thread, hemperor grows out a few different cuts including the Livers.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=297764

Heres the backstory on the 'barnsley blues' cut that he grew out in that thread.
Anywhere to get the livers clone ? And can the person who has it guarentee its the original livers
 

livers#1

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It appears there was a name change at some point, as VRG originally posted the his pics as blues.

It also appears that before UGORG released there seedline there were other cuts going around with the blues name. I had never encountered the name Livers offline, only since reading online did the name first pop up. Even if you search on that other uk site from the early posts no one refers to her at livers. I would be curious to find at what point the name / tag changed / got attached. Could it be around the time the ugorg line came out to differentiate? If anyone knows i would love to hear.

Everyone and i mean near enough everyone offline just refereed to it as blues. People I knew used to get it from sheffield, they lost the link and got a new one in rotherham. The stuff i used to get from sheffield was slightly different to the one from rotherham however it would still fall under the 'blues' category. However the stuff that came from rotherham is the exact same as the livers cut.

@skotty im a huge fan of the blues / livers. If your cut is as good as you say she is then you should side by side her with the Livers clone. Does your cut look like any of the others that hemperor grew out? Problem is ugorg started releasing their seeds in around 2009 or so, so if you got your cut offline, unless you got her before then, theres no saying for definate, if shes one of the cuts that used to go around before their seed release. Get what im saying?

With regards UGORG and their UGORG #1 and Blues line, as coxnox said VRG took the blues / livers clone, Im assuming the same clone pictured above, as he posted pics of her here in 2005, and crossed her to a blueberry male which he released as smellyberry. He then went on to take a smelly berry male and cross her back to the blues which creates killer skunk or blues bx1. He then took the killer skunk and crossed it back to the blues to create a blues bx2.

So just to clarify

Blues/Livers x Blueberry = smelly berry

Blues x Smelly berry = Killer skunk / (Blues/Livers bx1)

Blues x killer skunk = (Blues / Livers BX2)

Im not sure how many times the blues got back crossed, although he released everything above in seed form, they also did blues / livers ibl which was further backcrossed, im not to sure.

So just to clarify the sees he released as blues have been bx'd quite a few times. Im pretty sure they took it further than bx2, you will have to check on the other forum.

He then took the blues bx line sold under the name blues, and crossed it to the Exodus cheese to create UGORG #1. Just to clarify all the seeds are regs, not fems.

His line is probably one of the more worked seed lines that has came out of the UK to my knowledge, and you cant fault the price as they are quite reasonable for the work put in to them. Granted they are not the clone only, but a heavily worked bx, you will still find plants with a good resemblance and characteristics of the blues/livers, mainly being taste and smell!

To anyone not from the UK reading this, if you are interested in growing out these genetics and want to grow some stinkers I would start here. IMO most accurate representation you will find in seed form. Forget big buddah, if I ever lost my cuts and couldnt get any back UGORG would be the first and only stop to pheno hunt a replacement.
Original livers cuttings was a cross of Northern lights and skunk#1. If anyone has the original I would love to get my hands on it.
 

Oscar Golph

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Original livers cuttings was a cross of Northern lights and skunk#1. If anyone has the original I would love to get my hands on it.
Interesting thread, funnily enough i grew the livers cut from 2006 to around 2010 or thereabouts, and those pics are definately the livers cut, i got my cut from a friend of Old Timer called mike, a music producer who worked with the Arctic Monkies before they got big, anyways, i do believe i have a cut back of the same cut i gave away to an old friend of mine, i have still yet to grow it out, but ive been on the hunt for this plant for years since i got busted and lost it lol. there is an earlier post by someone who says they got something off Dom (Space Monkies) via fat neck, well ,he got that from me as did anyone else around the manchester area's, lol, i made it famous.
 
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livers#1

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Interesting thread, funnily enough i grew the livers cut from 2006 to around 2010 or thereabouts, and those pics are definately the livers cut, i got my cut from a friend of Old Timer called mike, a music producer who worked with the Arctic Monkies before they got big, anyways, i do believe i have a cut back of the same cut i gave away to an old friend of mine, i have still yet to grow it out, but ive been on the hunt for this plant for years since i got busted and lost it lol. there is an earlier post by someone who says they got something off Dom (Space Monkies) via fat neck, well ,he got that from me as did anyone else around the manchester area's, lol, i made it famous.
When/if you find out its the original reply to this comment please. After almost 15 years growing it then lost it and now 15 years later would love to get it back. Yours thankfully Livers 😂
(the origional)
 

livers#1

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Anywhere to get the livers clone ? And can the person who has it guarentee its the original livers
Livers was a cutting only back from the early 90s. I grew it for 15 years and somehow lost it. Would love to get the original back but in the last 15 years have never seen anything that comes close to it. The cutting when it went Into Barnsley was named Barnsley jack.
 

Oscar Golph

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Livers was a cutting only back from the early 90s. I grew it for 15 years and somehow lost it. Would love to get the original back but in the last 15 years have never seen anything that comes close to it. The cutting when it went Into Barnsley was named Barnsley jack.
do you know the liversedge connection to this variant ? A guy called Arnold Layne had the cut years ago, ime sure there is another thread with his pics of it on there.
 
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