Let's see and hear about your sick plants!!

[Guy Brush]

Yes, check ph to be sure.

 

[genericsilverjunkie]

Does she look fine to you I'm worried about dampening off

 

[PoweredByLove]

If it's fusarium not much you can do about it but pray. The seedling will either live or it won't. You'll know in a few days. If it doesn't fall over and die then you're fine. If they make it to the second set of leaves they usually live.

 

[Loc Dog]

Have plenty of experience with spider mites, but heard many varieties. Do you think this is them, they look too clear from my experience.

Second picture is other bugs. the tiny rice shaped things are everywhere, and the big thing in crevace. Had stink bugs on plants which probably brought them in

 

[Loc Dog]

Not sure if this will post since avi file. If anyone know how to convert to type supported by ICmag let me know.

 

[laszlokovacs]

Well unless you actually check the ph you'll never know. But based on how those seedling literally did not do any growing since they came above the ground. I think you have a ph issue.

Yeah probably should have... the drops I have were out of town at the time unfortunately. Could be a ph issue, but even stuff that grew fine in the same soil isnt super happy. I put replacements in miracle gro last week and they popped up over 48hrs and with 100% germination, was already seeing issues in this crap mix when sprouting.

Probably more a function of just how atrocious this potting mix is as you eloquently put it. Vigoro seems much worse than the miracle gro I have. Anyway the original dozen or so are doing fine now, way behind but since posting they mostly recovered.

Thanks for your input.

 

[laszlokovacs]

Not looking great but back to normal growth/color for the most part. In the end i just hit them with 900-1300ishppm vegetative fertilizer with higher N for about 10 days straight and they look like they might make it. Maybe just a ton of organic matter and wood robbing nitrogen from the soil because its nuts to be adding this much fertilizer to seedlings less than a month old. Also switched lights as the new LED I was using might have also been frying them

Gonna stop complaining now- If they gain good momentum I think I should be fine but the weather is perfect out and I hate to be wasting time indoors...

Heres half of the stuff I posted earlier, the rest looks the same as this pretty much

Only good thing is I decided to start more seeds as backups so I got a little bunch growing now. Probably not yet done as they say, once you pop you can't stop

 

[Loc Dog]

 

[PoweredByLove]

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Thrips. I'm dealing with some now i caught on some seedlings I had mixed in with my houseplants. Gross. I'm spraying them with some oil and soap water that I use to get rid of spider mites. Hopefully it works ill keep you updated.

 

[Homura]

I think I'm kinda panicking here, but better safe than sorry.
Starting second week of veg, they were transplanted to the final pot 2 days ago.
2 of the plants are yellowing a bit, and I thought maybe I underwatered them, so I watered them again yesterday.
Some leafs stay with some yellowish color and I don't know if it could be the stress...
I'm sure I'm not overwatering them, and I'm using the scheduled nutrients (currently 2ml/L of biobizz "biogrow", and 1ml/L of upper nutrients "metaroots").

Picture of them all is taken 20 mins ago, but I think it's not properly seen in the pic.

Second pic was taken from the "yellower" plant yesterday evening.


Max temp 32°C(a week ago that I was out of home and forgot to program the AC, haven't been over 29-30°C since then)
Avg 26-27°C
Min temp 19°C.

Rh was a little low earlier in the grow but last week has been stable between 60-70%

Feel free to ask if you need more details, im kind of a noob, so tell me if I'm missing something.

 

[Loc Dog]

I think I'm kinda panicking here, but better safe than sorry.
Starting second week of veg, they were transplanted to the final pot 2 days ago.
2 of the plants are yellowing a bit, and I thought maybe I underwatered them, so I watered them again yesterday.
Some leafs stay with some yellowish color and I don't know if it could be the stress...
I'm sure I'm not overwatering them, and I'm using the scheduled nutrients (currently 2ml/L of biobizz "biogrow", and 1ml/L of upper nutrients "metaroots").

Picture of them all is taken 20 mins ago, but I think it's not properly seen in the pic.

Second pic was taken from the "yellower" plant yesterday evening.


Max temp 32°C(a week ago that I was out of home and forgot to program the AC, haven't been over 29-30°C since then)
Avg 26-27°C
Min temp 19°C.

Rh was a little low earlier in the grow but last week has been stable between 60-70%

Feel free to ask if you need more details, im kind of a noob, so tell me if I'm missing something.

Are you adjusting PH of feed. 5.9 for coco or 6.5 for dirt.

 

[Homura]

Are you adjusting PH of feed. 5.9 for coco or 6.5 for dirt.

The soil is dirt mixed with coconut to improve drainage, so should I aim for 6.5 or something like 6.3?
(I'm doing organic nutes, if it's important for the PH)
I will check the PH tonight when I water them.


Could it be that I'm underwatering them everyday? I'm trying daily water, and to not soak the soil to prevent root rot, but even when I did some "heavier" waterings, not even a drop run-off. Should I try to have a little runoff this night and check the soil PH taking that water to test?

 

[Loc Dog]

The soil is dirt mixed with coconut to improve drainage, so should I aim for 6.5 or something like 6.3?
(I'm doing organic nutes, if it's important for the PH)
I will check the PH tonight when I water them.


Could it be that I'm underwatering them everyday? I'm trying daily water, and to not soak the soil to prevent root rot, but even when I did some "heavier" waterings, not even a drop run-off. Should I try to have a little runoff this night and check the soil PH taking that water to test?

I only use coco in air pots, so not sure what soil considerations are.

 

[Homura]

I only use coco in air pots, so not sure what soil considerations are.

Checked the soil brand and specs, it says pH 6-6.3 and EC 1.5, I don't know if it's talking about the soil PH, or the PH I should have in the irrigation water?

Sublime-mix from Pro-XL it is.

Little update I watered them earlier to have a little run-off, and the run-off tested at 7, so should I start checking irrigation water and maybe start using some PH-down?

Anyway in case it was underwatering, I should be seeing improvement through the day

 

[mudballs]

I think I'm kinda panicking here, but better safe than sorry.
Starting second week of veg, they were transplanted to the final pot 2 days ago.
2 of the plants are yellowing a bit, and I thought maybe I underwatered them, so I watered them again yesterday.
Some leafs stay with some yellowish color and I don't know if it could be the stress...
I'm sure I'm not overwatering them, and I'm using the scheduled nutrients (currently 2ml/L of biobizz "biogrow", and 1ml/L of upper nutrients "metaroots").

Picture of them all is taken 20 mins ago, but I think it's not properly seen in the pic.

Second pic was taken from the "yellower" plant yesterday evening.


Max temp 32°C(a week ago that I was out of home and forgot to program the AC, haven't been over 29-30°C since then)
Avg 26-27°C
Min temp 19°C.

Rh was a little low earlier in the grow but last week has been stable between 60-70%

Feel free to ask if you need more details, im kind of a noob, so tell me if I'm missing something.

Biogrow
The NPK ratio is 4-3-6.
It has low phosphate contents, which are considered harmful for our bodies and the environment
you're gonna need to change ferts or supplement Phosphorus
Also the plants are at the size where 2ml/L of biogrow isn't enough once a day....maybe increase to 3ml/L or increase fertigation frequency (twice a day)

 

[Homura]

Biogrow
The NPK ratio is 4-3-6.
It has low phosphate contents, which are considered harmful for our bodies and the environment
you're gonna need to change ferts or supplement Phosphorus
Also the plants are at the size where 2ml/L of biogrow isn't enough once a day....maybe increase to 3ml/L or increase fertigation frequency (twice a day)

I saw that famous pic of deficiencies and was in doubt between phosphorus and iron/manganese deficiency.
Iron, zinc and manganese should come from the root stimulator, should I up the dose? Instructions are 0'5-2ml/L, progressively upping the dose, and stopping in the second week of flowering. Currently I'm doing 1ml/L, should I try 1.5?
(Also if the biobloom or the top max could do the work un upping the P, I could try)

So I could prepare a watering solution, 3ml/L of biogrow and 1'5 of metaroots, check PH, get it down to 6.5, and check the progress?
How long should it take to see improvement? I don't want to panic, but I don't want to think "it will heal, it will heal" and in reality is not improving

 

[mudballs]

I saw that famous pic of deficiencies and was in doubt between phosphorus and iron/manganese deficiency.
Iron, zinc and manganese should come from the root stimulator, should I up the dose? Instructions are 0'5-2ml/L, progressively upping the dose, and stopping in the second week of flowering. Currently I'm doing 1ml/L, should I try 1.5?
(Also if the biobloom or the top max could do the work un upping the P, I could try)

So I could prepare a watering solution, 3ml/L of biogrow and 1'5 of metaroots, check PH, get it down to 6.5, and check the progress?
How long should it take to see improvement? I don't want to panic, but I don't want to think "it will heal, it will heal" and in reality is not improving

Now you're thinking...those pots aren't "small" but theres a demarcation line where you "should" feed twice a day because of plant/pot size offset...yes i think i would try increasing your mix strength first. You could see improvement in as little as 24hrs if the changes address the problem. They respond fast, but in our game fast is 24hrs

 

[Homura]

Now you're thinking...those pots aren't "small" but theres a demarcation line where you "should" feed twice a day because of plant/pot size offset...yes i think i would try increasing your mix strength first. You could see improvement in as little as 24hrs if the changes address the problem. They respond fast, but in our game fast is 24hrs

I fount that biobloom npk is 2-7-4, if upping the biogrow and the roots don't work in 24-36 hrs, I'm thinking of adding a little of the biobloom to up the P.

I couldn't find NPK in the Top-max bottle but I found it is 0.1-0.1-0.1????

Btw this is the schedule I was following:
-Following the "light mix" part.

 

[mudballs]

I fount that biobloom npk is 2-7-4, if upping the biogrow and the roots don't work in 24-36 hrs, I'm thinking of adding a little of the biobloom to up the P.

I couldn't find NPK in the Top-max bottle but I found it is 0.1-0.1-0.1????

Btw this is the schedule I was following:
-Following the "light mix" part.

Yeah throw that out now and become a grower...watch plant, increase and decrease feed as needed...it'll come with time. "This plant needs more P"...see, ur already there

 

[Homura]

They already look better with just the plain water of this morning.
I think I underwatered them when transplanted and soil was never properly wet....

Here are some closer pics, I think they seem greener than this morning, but just in case if somebody wants to check.