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Lunchmoney
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Wilted leaves on top cola only. Entire plant looks healthy otherwise aside from some yellowing. This is wind damaged plant mentioned and pictured in above post. ( since it’s fallen over it has rapidly filled out with buds and matured/ yellowed idk watcha call it) it’s not behaving like any of the others. I know it’s “hungry” as all have pointed out but I don’t know how else to supplement food to this girl she has plenty believe me. The wilts at the top are green leaves with tips starting to change. Should I be worried?
VenerableHippie
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I 'm thinking you might have a drainage problem. Previously you mentioned you're growing in clay soil and that you have had rain. (Previously was the weather dry?) So my bet is that there's insufficient drainage due to heavy soil.
This is why I mentioned gypsum before. You need to let the gypsum do its thing with soil before you plant. It may take a while for the gypsum to change the soil to assist drainage. And the question is always: how much gypsum is needed?
The answer is: well, depends ... on what the soil is like.
Sorry I haven't got better news ...
This is why I mentioned gypsum before. You need to let the gypsum do its thing with soil before you plant. It may take a while for the gypsum to change the soil to assist drainage. And the question is always: how much gypsum is needed?
The answer is: well, depends ... on what the soil is like.
Sorry I haven't got better news ...
Lunchmoney
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Damn this clay. Full of rock. Yeah it needs some help
laszlokovacs
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I looked at a couple of plants last night and took a couple pictures to monitor the buds maturing. Zooming way in and I think I found a baby caterpillar. I can find a leafhopper on pretty much every plant but have not seen any caterpillars so far. Bought a BT spray at a local garden store today, sprayed a tiny bit on the plants will probably give a good drench in the morning. I can see small amounts of leaf damage/evidence of insects on the odd leaf but overall most untouched. Is this a caterpillar or is it too small/unclear? It is tiny but i circled it in the OG pic.
Lunchmoney
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I have same situation as you. Mine buds aren’t as far along as this beautiful flower pictured but I am considering spraying them with a bt spray or neem. My grow is guerilla style and every time I visit I find worms and such. Have you treated flowering plants before? We’re/are buds affected by spray?
VenerableHippie
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Please be careful if you spray neem on your flowers. Make sure the neem is well diluted and the weather is not hot.
I 'd go for a Pythrethrum spray which is made from a type of marigold.
VenerableHippie
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Don't bother spraying now unless bugs are really chewing. I see your plant has not long to go. Just keep inspecting your plant closely like you are and pick off any bugs that grow large.
laszlokovacs
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Lol sorry dude I have no idea... Only popped one photoperiod seed before this season. Pretty much all my other grows have been indoor autos in a half pint pot on my windowsill. Really depends on what you spray... I wish I had the answers to this question, its been weighing on my mind a lot. Both of those should be fine I'd think especially if you spray a couple weeks or more before harvest.
Whoops, too late. Only 2/14 of my plants are this far along or so but the one pictured has at least 10-14 days in my opinion. I see what you're saying though, not much (if any) infestation and pretty limited to the leafhoppers which are pretty benign in my opinion. Went pretty light on the spray this morning, it starting raining a couple hours later. Hoping to treat it once and be done with all sprays til harvest. I mostly focused on areas with bites on the leaves mostly as a precaution as I can't check up daily and it'll be another week+ before I can see them again.
xet
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My local Lowe's has 391 of these bags in stock.
Each one is 48 lbs. That is ~$0.12/lb
I just checked Amazon.com to compare prices and those c**ksuckers are charging $2.00-3.50/lb.
Oyster shell is good.
This youtuber has a lot of good videos that will cover just about anything you ever wondered about soil https://www.youtube.com/growingyourgreens/
Also, volcanic rock and pumice is the same thing. They can differ from volcano to volcano as far as color and content goes but overall it's just lava
Lunchmoney
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Thanks @xet ! I have not added any rock yet but this bag is available near me as well! I asked about pumice as I see it is used for aeration/drainage, good to know that’s volcanic as well. I have read some about the paramagnetic properties of volcanic rock and fuckin A right what a worm hole! I wish id’ve paid better attention in chemistry class! It was may intent to raise cec with fresh humus when preparing this site. I will add paramagnetic minerals content in prep for next season. Thank you for the you tuber link!
xet
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I did some deep dive reading on volcanic rock vs pumice vs basalt one day and found out it's all the same thing.
you got volcanic rocks but lava when it's exploding is lopping frothy lava everywhere too and that lava froth is those red rocks and chemically speaking it's more or less identical to the rock, and then basalt is the ash but that's also just ejected lava in small particles and they may differ in colors and shapes and sizes and textures but it's all the same liquid hot magma coming from the earth with all of God's best minerals mixed in it.
Rocks in general are paramagnetic so if you could plant next to a big ass boulder you're in even more luck.
Chemistry class didn't teach me about paramagnetism. I was in my 30s before I ever even heard that word and was like wtf no one ever taught me this. It's a fascinating topic. It will lead you to the pyramids eventually.
Lunchmoney
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I’m in luck then as I’m constantly pulling blue limestone also a sedimaentary/fossilized crustaceans type rock from the ground. Natural springs below as well. No natural volcanic remnants near me I’m in a glacial drift valley type crust. I was referring to my lack of chemistry knowledge/focus when researching paramagnetic rock- left me spun. That led me to cation exchange capacity the bigger reminder I didn’t pay attention in class. I’m now having a refresher. In my 30s. I was bad student. Don’t claim to know much now. I’m many many miles from my sight tonight but there’s reports it’s dry and cool and stankin!
I have only grown GG4 for last 8 years, so lousy at reading plants by looking at them. I grow in coco with full GH Flora series following their charts. Worked well with GG4 which hated over 650 PPM (1.3 EC). I have heard some strains like close to 2000 PPM. Just got about a dozen clone strains. One batch of 5 clones came with 2 spot spider mites which spread due to fans. Have been treating with Green Cleaner (isopropyl and soybean oil) using a fogger before lights out. Have this weird looking leaf problem on some plants. Temps around 80 and under cheap LED's about 2 feet above. Cuttings are under HO fluorescents. Is it Nitrogen deficiency????
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Frosty Bottoms
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I don't grow in coco, but it looks like calcium and magnesium deficiency to me. Do you have fans above the canopy? Does your coco always look that wet? what does the new grow on the plant look like?
I had fans running until I saw spider mites had spread, about 2 weeks ago. I think those plants were ones that dried out quickly (not look dry on surface, but the weight was low). The large one is Chemdawg #4 (thai X nepalese) and other is Gush Mints (kush mints X (F1 Durb X Gushers)). Gush mints was accidentally fed double strength early on. All get CALiMAGic at recommended dose. If I spray with just cal/mag will the spots go away, or will it just prevent new damage?? Should I double cal/mag for those plants?
Frosty Bottoms
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The damage will not go away. Once the problem is fixed new growth should come out fine. I have a plant that got too much magnesium, which locked out calcium... old damaged leaves stay damaged. As you are growing in coco I'm assuming you have a ph meter. What are your ph levels.
Have not been checking runoff yet. Have horrible depression and have been putting off moving to final airpots, especially with problems I have been having. Also need to get a second tent, with all the varieties I have started. Feed is 5.8 PH. I am expecting a lot of issues with some strains liking 600 PPM max and others liking 2000 PPM, although I do not think any are OG crosses. Someone suggested feeding lite, until seeing deficiencies.
Just noticed the chemdawg, the lower leaves are yellowing so will start feeding that strain more. Wondering if I should just take notes on problems, fix, take cuts, and dump these plants if they are screwed up too much already.
Update - New growth looks fine. Took a long time for these cuts to root, which is probably why deficient. Cloning solution has no cal/mag.
Update - New growth looks fine. Took a long time for these cuts to root, which is probably why deficient. Cloning solution has no cal/mag.
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Lunchmoney
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This girl suffered wind trauma weeks ago at onset of bloom. Maybe other issues here as well as others have pointed. Ever since the blow over it has turned completely yellow and fell the leaves. New growth leaves comes in fine then gets sucked dry wilts and dies soon. All growth besides flowers dies quickly. Flowers are amazingly fruity and sticky. Not sure but I may give her the chop next visit
