Dear Doc, Here's one for you. Plants 5 weeks old. Indoor soil in airpots. First grow for me. No trimming or topping or pruning. Large stalks, lots of new growth. 16 / 8 light cycle. 400 watt Infinity light. Not sure what strains are, but seeds are from good source. Plants seem too bushy, are large leaves blocking light to new growth ? They seem kind of stunted. Please advise. Goose.
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St. Phatty
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They look like your basic healthy Indica.
The color is wierd, but that might just be the lighting.
Not sure but probably phytotoxicity from throwing the kitchen sink at spider mite infestation. The neem was old and also added isopropyl, prevasyn (insanely hot pepper), and peppermint oil. In another application used old spinosad. Only other thing was fed them strong once while young, but would have expected tip burn, not whatever this is.
Lunchmoney
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I have this happen often while my plants are in small nursery pots. I still haven’t got it pinpointed but the general consensus was unhappy roots. I have trouble above ground once plants are in ground they’re easier for me.
Hombre del mont
Dr of Stupidity
Not sure what's going on with this out door grown Mulanje x Malawi/Ethiopian.
Here's a cut and paste from my diary....
Next up we have the Mulanje X Malawi/Ethiopian.
Those of you who read this diary regularly will perhaps remember how for quite some time now, I've been saying that she is yellowing and has been under fed, and I'm still inclined to think that, but
over this last week or so she's been dropping a lot of yellow leaves and in the last 48hrs the leaves have all started to droop.
My first thoughts were perhaps that it is a fungal infection or that I've over watered big time. In the past when I've seen fungal attacks it's been on one part of the plant and then spread, but this is all of the plant at the same time.
I doubt it's over water as there are so many plants around it that take water from the area.
Not particularly toxic. She was given some bat guano top dressing on the 6th of October and has received weak strength organic pk weekly-10 days.
I've cut a branch and the stem is good; No black stuff.
Here's a picture of the lower stem and root area
The roots are white and smell fine.
As to the plant itself, she's as good as stopped producing pistils. when I look with my loupe the trichomes are 75/25 clear/cloudy, so she ideally could well go further yet.
For some weeks I felt that she wasn't hitting her potential, but I put that down to lack of nitrogen earlier in the grow.
What do you guys reckon?
Here's a cut and paste from my diary....
Next up we have the Mulanje X Malawi/Ethiopian.
Those of you who read this diary regularly will perhaps remember how for quite some time now, I've been saying that she is yellowing and has been under fed, and I'm still inclined to think that, but
over this last week or so she's been dropping a lot of yellow leaves and in the last 48hrs the leaves have all started to droop.
My first thoughts were perhaps that it is a fungal infection or that I've over watered big time. In the past when I've seen fungal attacks it's been on one part of the plant and then spread, but this is all of the plant at the same time.
I doubt it's over water as there are so many plants around it that take water from the area.
Not particularly toxic. She was given some bat guano top dressing on the 6th of October and has received weak strength organic pk weekly-10 days.
I've cut a branch and the stem is good; No black stuff.
Here's a picture of the lower stem and root area
The roots are white and smell fine.
As to the plant itself, she's as good as stopped producing pistils. when I look with my loupe the trichomes are 75/25 clear/cloudy, so she ideally could well go further yet.
For some weeks I felt that she wasn't hitting her potential, but I put that down to lack of nitrogen earlier in the grow.
What do you guys reckon?
BigBreakfast
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So my Bubblegum plant took a bit of a nose dive over the last week or two. I had just stopped giving it the veg nutes, i thought it was done with them given where it is in it's life cycle, and moved onto flowering nutes (plagron green sensation, a p k booster)
I was feeding veg nutes (biobizz grow, root juice and cal mag) on top of the biobizz all mix soil, as it started to yellow (around week 8) from the bottom before i switched it to flower. I did veg it for 12 weeks so i had presumed it used up all the nutrients in the soil. In this case the yellowing started happening on random leaves rather than from the base upwards. The soil PH was a little higher than 7, i gave it a small enough flush with PH 6. Been keeping the VPD between 1.10 and 1.30. Water it every three days, with nutrients two out of three waterings. The tent is 100cm x 50cm, the light is 2000w led, 200 power draw. Any ideas? The damaged leaves have gone through yellow and are now showing purple.
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I was feeding veg nutes (biobizz grow, root juice and cal mag) on top of the biobizz all mix soil, as it started to yellow (around week 8) from the bottom before i switched it to flower. I did veg it for 12 weeks so i had presumed it used up all the nutrients in the soil. In this case the yellowing started happening on random leaves rather than from the base upwards. The soil PH was a little higher than 7, i gave it a small enough flush with PH 6. Been keeping the VPD between 1.10 and 1.30. Water it every three days, with nutrients two out of three waterings. The tent is 100cm x 50cm, the light is 2000w led, 200 power draw. Any ideas? The damaged leaves have gone through yellow and are now showing purple.
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revegeta666
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Thanks for tagging me. In the first picture the plant look overwatered already, and showing first signs of Mg deficiency imo. But is is a deficiency because of lack of Mg? Or is Mg locked out because of excess Ca? Mg could also be locked out if the overwaterinh has been constant. You say you are using calmag but in your post on the other thread mention that your tap water leaves white stains on the glasses. If that's the case I'm not sure a calmag supplement would be needed. It would be nice to know the EC of your tap water in case you overfed her with Ca. Let's see what others think. By the way biogrow is supposed to be used in small doses until harvest. Biobizz nutes are A+B which means you keep giving the A bottle (biogrow) while giving her the B (biobloom).
I keep having the same problems with all my autos. How do i fix the problems before it happends again to my next plant. The plant starts growing fine for a lil bit of time then the leafs keep getting all yellow, dry, and crispy weeks before the plant is fully ripe. WTF do i keep doing so wrong. I can't fix my mistakes if I don't know what I'm doing wrong.
Are you guys PHing the solutions you water with? Do you ever do a run off ph?
@#1cheesebuds and @BigBreakfast your plants look like a ph problem to me.
@Hombre your plants look like ones I had that a chipmunk, mole or gopher ate the roots up. When you pulled it was the rootball very small?
@locdog have you given it any calmag?
@GoneGoose just a slightly overwatered and underfed indica. Make it a sandwich and cut back watering.
@#1cheesebuds and @BigBreakfast your plants look like a ph problem to me.
@Hombre your plants look like ones I had that a chipmunk, mole or gopher ate the roots up. When you pulled it was the rootball very small?
@locdog have you given it any calmag?
@GoneGoose just a slightly overwatered and underfed indica. Make it a sandwich and cut back watering.
Naindejardin
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Himalayan Sativas, 270w LED, Coast of Maine Soil, Roots Organics CaMg and TerpTea bloom, Tribus and MammothP. Not much else maybe molasses.
Naindejardin
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Week 10 flower
Naindejardin
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@iTarzan hi, thanks for the reply. So the weird thing is, I was only supplementing with cal/mg and micros+molasses. However a PK deficiency showed, so then I hit them with Terp Tea (3-7-4), then this happened along with the claws and tip burn. So whatever this is was exacerbated by the Terp Tea. I use RO/DI water pH 6.7. @pipeline not sure about nitrogen deficiency, they’re dark green in the new growth, plus enough should be in substrate.
Naindejardin
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Plus they’re heirloom/landrace so light feeding is better
I have some plants about a foot that are nitrogen deficient. Is it OK to spray with GH Floragro till the feed catches up? If so how strong??
I usually run 1 clone strain but got bored and now running 10. It is Gush Mintz that seems to be the most faded green.
Also, can I jump 50% fertiiliizer strength at this point?? Was feeding 600 PPM.
I usually run 1 clone strain but got bored and now running 10. It is Gush Mintz that seems to be the most faded green.
Also, can I jump 50% fertiiliizer strength at this point?? Was feeding 600 PPM.
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Do you feel like its newer or older growth that is yellowing? This looks a bit more like sulfur deficiency imo. Also need more details, room temp, rh, ph of feed vs ph of runoff. Ec of feed.
Behind on caring for them. Main concern is making sure veg plants do not get 2 spot spider mites from last grow. Also need to dump a couple of strains and get rid of lesser plants to reduce work. EC is 1.2 and 5.9 going in. No idea of runoff. Probably about 70F, but no heater when lights off. Humidity less than 50%.
The first thing id do is measure runoff ec and ph. See whats coming out.
