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xet

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I wonder if that could work with some other trees, like Cottonwood or something.
Perhaps but there is a specific reason why you want to go for Willow bark.

Willow bark is a common supplement for humans and not so coincidentally an agent of good for plants.

Willow bark contains 1% of a natural compound called Salicin nearly identical to aspirin (acetylsalicylic acid) and I would argue it works better and is far more effective than over the counter aspirin.

Salicin is considered a novel molecule for Biosynthesis and metabolism in both plants and humans.
The willow tree, like any other medicinal plant species, can be considered as a bioreactor for the biosynthesis of many phytochemicals, including β-d-salicin 1. These phytochemicals are recognised as secondary metabolites, which contribute to the biology of plants, as they are essential for growth, reproduction and have important roles in the ecological survival of plants against biotic and abiotic stress

In simpler terms: Salicin is a highly effective natural rooting steroid/hormone.
 

xet

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This one blew over 8 days ago. All the way to the ground. Staked with t post. Trellised the whole bush hugged it around with 5x30 net. Continued water and tea/feedings. The flowers seem to be doing better than the healthy one next to it but it’s getting yellowing all over rapidly. What is it telling me? Have roots been severed and it’s using up stored energy? Is this reversible? Should I supplement with foliar feed? —Well amended native clay soil and organic nutes. Chicken and rabbit manure fed. Teas, bennies, fungi. I’m not an organic guy I’m just new and cheap. This entire grow has cost less than 200$ which was goal. First grow. Guerilla. View attachment 18750446 View attachment 18750447 View attachment 18750448 Should I even be worried?
First you need Calcium - it is flowering season.

Here is the cheap and effective solution:

Your local hardware store should have a bag of naturally powdered limestone, mortar's lime, slaked lime, could go by different names - should be able to pick up a 50lb sack for $4-15 each. Watering in 6lbs per plant will do the trick.

Here is a slightly more expensive and a superior solution for about $20. Go grab a 20lb sack of garden gypsum. Same thing, water in 6lbs per plant. This is superior because while lime is cal/mag, gypsum is cal/sulfur and that sulfur is what will prevent bud rot and significantly increase terpene production during flower. Also, gypsum's calcium particle is 200x smaller than lime's calcium particle which means 200x more effective on saving your roots and buds from rot in the grand scheme of things.

Third: if you can spare another $5 pick up some non GMO molasses at wally world and water that whole thing in to all your plants.

Those carbohydrates from the molasses will give you stinking fat buds like on the cover of magazines.

You can easily repeat this process again as you see the conditions setting in again.
 

Lunchmoney

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I will pick up some gypsum thank you! Should it be dissolved into water or just topdress and water? I have been using molasses in teas But small amounts. I like this suggestion I have plenty of molasses.
 
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Lunchmoney

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What is this? Is this the plants natural pigment? I ask because I have this blacky looking purple hue on some flowers on 3 different strains. They’re all in same location. Is this caused by genetics or is this some chemical reaction caused by something all 3 different plants took into their roots? Three very different strains with this same black hue
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xet

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I will pick up some gypsum thank you! Should it be dissolved into water or just topdress and water? I have been using molasses in teas But small amounts. I like this suggestion I have plenty of molasses.
Typically the garden stores offer gypsum in a sort of ball/pellet and those are a pain in the A** to mash up into a nice slurry. Slurry it all anyway and every time you water it will get carried further into the soil which is what you want because you have 7 or so weeks of flower to go.

Carbs from any source like molasses is for whatever reason perhaps the most overlooked, understated, hardly ever discussed topic and if you want ginormous buds then you will need carbs. Application of those carbs is a bit like understanding your carb source is a 5000 horsepower engine and you can press on the gas as hard as you can just know you can break the tires loose and you don't want to do that so start where you know is safe and keep eating into it and watch how the plants respond.

As far as the purple goes - those are anthocyanins which is an antioxidant found in blackberrys, burberry, acai, black elderberry etc etc those purple things.

It is epigenetic meaning something triggers it. It could be cool root tips or cool leaf tips or both. It helps the plant warm up in the daytime like a blacktop of asphalt gets hot under sunlight and this aids in proper transpiration (breathing) so the plant can do what it must to finish it's lifecycle with success.

Red/purple is also associated with a "lockout" (I don't like that word) of phosphorous but a slowdown of transpiration by cool temperatures slows down the phosphorous uptake by inhibiting other cofactors of phosphorous - think about how freezing your ass off makes your hands move slower - so this epigenetic adaptation is the plant finding a way to grow without phosphorous whatsoever necessarily - anyone in the desert can see similar with any red stem tree start - run a soil test and you won't find phosphos - so plants can do magical things like that.

That said, to mitigate against that and have even fatter buds and quicker growth I would go grab a few bales of alfalfa because it's that time of year , maybe a half bale per plant or 3 bales per plant whatever you can afford and make a thick layer of covering around the base of the plant going out as far as you like. This will increase microbial biomass in the soil which also aids in temperature regulation of the plant, increase of soil temperature, overall better transpiration, more resin production etc, and a superior place to grow come next season.
 

Loc Dog

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What is this? Is this the plants natural pigment? I ask because I have this blacky looking purple hue on some flowers on 3 different strains. They’re all in same location. Is this caused by genetics or is this some chemical reaction caused by something all 3 different plants took into their roots? Three very different strains with this same black hue View attachment 18750485 View attachment 18750486 View attachment 18750487
Phosphorus being locked out from cooler temps. Thanks to MyNameStitch sticky in Infirmary.

Picture of Phosphorus being locked out from cooler temps.

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Lunchmoney

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Thanks @Loc Dog & @xet !! We have plenty of molasses and alfalfa is what we feed the rabbits so plenty of that also this is great news! The cooler temps makes sense as they are found low underside of plants where weeds are grown tall nearby. I have cool night temps at times and terrible humidity. Every morning dew looks like rain on the leaves. High daytime temps 90+ into autumn. Full sun and lots of pest/insects. My uneducated guess was insects were causing this so I am relieved to say the least!!! I try searching forums first but I don’t navigate web so well. Thanks y’all
 
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Loc Dog

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Thanks @Loc Dog & @xet !! We have plenty of molasses and alfalfa is what we feed the rabbits so plenty of that also this is great news! The cooler temps makes sense as they are found low underside of plants where weeds are grown tall nearby. I have cool night temps at times and terrible humidity. Every morning dew looks like rain on the leaves. High daytime temps 90+ into autumn. Full sun and lots of pest/insects. My uneducated guess was insects were causing this so I am relieved to say the least!!! I try searching forums first but I don’t navigate web so well. Thanks y’all
This is my go to - https://www.icmag.com/threads/the-complete-guide-to-sick-plants-ph-and-pest-troubles.8425/
 

VenerableHippie

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So even though the soil bag says that it feeds up to 6 months you recommend feeding bloom food on next watering? Because you're saying that the big one dosen't have enough food in the soil?
Yes, what the soil bag says is not necessarily for cannabis.

Just use what fert you have. What you have will improve things but you really need more K.

Put some cal/mag on those seedlings.
 

VenerableHippie

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This one blew over 8 days ago. All the way to the ground. Staked with t post. Trellised the whole bush hugged it around with 5x30 net. Continued water and tea/feedings. The flowers seem to be doing better than the healthy one next to it but it’s getting yellowing all over rapidly. What is it telling me? Have roots been severed and it’s using up stored energy? Is this reversible? Should I supplement with foliar feed? —Well amended native clay soil and organic nutes. Chicken and rabbit manure fed. Teas, bennies, fungi. I’m not an organic guy I’m just new and cheap. This entire grow has cost less than 200$ which was goal. First grow. Guerilla. View attachment 18750446 View attachment 18750447 View attachment 18750448 Should I even be worried?
Cannabis plants blow over all the time. Don't worry. They will adjust but some branches on the ground might rot. You can prop them up. Maybe with forked sticks but don't bend the plants all the way back in case you break the stem.

Your plants look short of food.

I see you say clay. Hope you applied lots of gypsum to improve drainage. (You can still do that.)
 

Lunchmoney

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Typically the garden stores offer gypsum in a sort of ball/pellet and those are a pain in the A** to mash up into a nice slurry. Slurry it all anyway and every time you water it will get carried further into the soil which is what you want because you have 7 or so weeks of flower to go.

Carbs from any source like molasses is for whatever reason perhaps the most overlooked, understated, hardly ever discussed topic and if you want ginormous buds then you will need carbs. Application of those carbs is a bit like understanding your carb source is a 5000 horsepower engine and you can press on the gas as hard as you can just know you can break the tires loose and you don't want to do that so start where you know is safe and keep eating into it and watch how the plants respond.

As far as the purple goes - those are anthocyanins which is an antioxidant found in blackberrys, burberry, acai, black elderberry etc etc those purple things.

It is epigenetic meaning something triggers it. It could be cool root tips or cool leaf tips or both. It helps the plant warm up in the daytime like a blacktop of asphalt gets hot under sunlight and this aids in proper transpiration (breathing) so the plant can do what it must to finish it's lifecycle with success.

Red/purple is also associated with a "lockout" (I don't like that word) of phosphorous but a slowdown of transpiration by cool temperatures slows down the phosphorous uptake by inhibiting other cofactors of phosphorous - think about how freezing your ass off makes your hands move slower - so this epigenetic adaptation is the plant finding a way to grow without phosphorous whatsoever necessarily - anyone in the desert can see similar with any red stem tree start - run a soil test and you won't find phosphos - so plants can do magical things like that.

That said, to mitigate against that and have even fatter buds and quicker growth I would go grab a few bales of alfalfa because it's that time of year , maybe a half bale per plant or 3 bales per plant whatever you can afford and make a thick layer of covering around the base of the plant going out as far as you like. This will increase microbial biomass in the soil which also aids in temperature regulation of the plant, increase of soil temperature, overall better transpiration, more resin production etc, and a superior place to grow come next season.
Did exactly as suggested. Mulched with alfalfa, gypsum, molasses. They seem happier. Top dressed with 3-6-4 organic food. LOts of gypsum slurry. Rain, rain and more rain. They have good old funky smell. Still a ways to go
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xet

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Did exactly as suggested. Mulched with alfalfa, gypsum, molasses. They seem happier. Top dressed with 3-6-4 organic food. LOts of gypsum slurry. Rain, rain and more rain. They have good old funky smell. Still a ways to go View attachment 18752510 View attachment 18752511
The microbial biomass in the soil will begin to explode and the health of the plants will pique every single day.

Random mushrooms growing underneath the plants will be the equivalent of nature delivering you a standing ovation. Hopefully the special mushies pop up.

Beautiful plants, especially love those praying leaves on that short feller on the 2nd photo. Those colas will really fatten up and reek. Bravo!
 

xet

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Here is another trick up my sleeve.

At the home depot/hardware store/garden store it is easy to track down those red lava rocks for $5 a 20lb bag. Smash that up into a powder with a hammer and water it in too. Those lava rocks are the froth of lava which is the same thing as lava rock in a less dense form.

Scientists discover 5-6000 new minerals every year and that lava rock has those minerals in it. Scientists have discovered more than 500,000 minerals in the lab which they estimate is in nature too but not yet proved so my gut tells me there are millions of unknown minerals in that lava rock and it's a real secret ingredient to elevating your grow.

Different volcanic regions have different make-up (and names: azomite, andesite, volcanic ash, pumice ..) but basalt is basalt is basalt if you can get your hands on it and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the amazing quality of things grown in the volcanic soils in tropical regions.. and for a big rabbit-hole to dive into concerning this topic search paramagnetic soil.
 
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Lunchmoney

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Here is another trick up my sleeve.

At the home depot/hardware store/garden store it is easy to track down those red lava rocks for $5 a 20lb bag. Smash that up into a powder with a hammer and water it in too. Those lava rocks are the froth of lava which is the same thing as lava rock in a less dense form.

Scientists discover 5-6000 new minerals every year and that lava rock has those minerals in it. Scientists have discovered more than 500,000 minerals in the lab which they estimate is in nature too but not yet proved so my gut tells me there are millions of unknown minerals in that lava rock and it's a real secret ingredient to elevating your grow.

Different volcanic regions have different make-up (and names: azomite, andesite, volcanic ash, pumice ..) but basalt is basalt is basalt if you can get your hands on it and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the amazing quality of things grown in the volcanic soils in tropical regions.. and for a big rabbit-hole to dive into concerning this topic search paramagnetic soil.
It’s funny you mention this as I just had a can of basalt rock dust in my hand today(8$). Did not buy but it sparked my interest. just started to look into this paramagnetic rock rabbit hole. I like your style xet. I’ll pick up basalt rock next trip to town. Also volcanic rock to smash up cheap. What about oyster shell for calcium I have tons.. also what about cheap pumice source? I sifted a bunch of alfalfa meal also when I made the mulch. Cheap is my path
 

MrBreeze911

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...Every grower at one time or another has to face the stark reality of seeing their best plants growing sick and perhaps dying...

...On this forum we will record and investigate various plant ailments in the worthwhile persuit of hopefully helping to eradicate or at least control various pest problems that you or I may encounter today or tommorrow...

...So please....if you have a sick plant....maybe we can help?.....photograph it and give us a report about your trials and tribulations concerning the infestation or mould or unknown plant sickness that you are having to cope with......

Accurate reports should contain as much information as possible in regards to the growing conditions, variety and location of the plant and what you are doing to try and combat the problems you face....
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This is a Bubba kush plant from seed. It has been around 110 degrees this week in the Sierra Nevada foothills. I water every three days 20 gallons of water. The plant is in a 200 gallon pot. I was supposed to water last night, but I'm doing it tonight. I feed biothrive bloom the day before watering typically with calmag. So 4 tsp of bloom and 2 tsp of calmag per gallon, just one gallon of that. And then after watering, I give it a day of rest. The yellowing came on fairly quickly. I may have made a mistake when I watered it at noon because of my new school schedule it was the only time I had and I also watered it with a little yucca, molasses, and calcium acetate.
 

MrBreeze911

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This is a Bubba kush plant from seed. It has been around 110 degrees this week in the Sierra Nevada foothills. I water every three days 20 gallons of water. The plant is in a 200 gallon pot. I was supposed to water last night, but I'm doing it tonight. I feed biothrive bloom the day before watering typically with calmag. So 4 tsp of bloom and 2 tsp of calmag per gallon, just one gallon of that. And then after watering, I give it a day of rest. The yellowing came on fairly quickly. I may have made a mistake when I watered it at noon because of my new school schedule it was the only time I had and I also watered it with a little yucca, molasses, and calcium acetate.
Please help me
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VenerableHippie

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It’s funny you mention this as I just had a can of basalt rock dust in my hand today(8$). Did not buy but it sparked my interest. just started to look into this paramagnetic rock rabbit hole. I like your style xet. I’ll pick up basalt rock next trip to town. Also volcanic rock to smash up cheap. What about oyster shell for calcium I have tons.. also what about cheap pumice source? I sifted a bunch of alfalfa meal also when I made the mulch. Cheap is my path

All that stuff from volcanoes will have lots of goodies. Especially phosphates and potash. And it won't burn your plants. Basalt dust will be good for next year's grow if you put it on now.
 

VenerableHippie

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Mr Breeze ... Sorry to say it looks to me like the lunchtime watering was with HOT water! If you watered with a hose the water already in the hose may have been almost boiling.

Otherwise your water maybe runs right thru before the soil can absorb it. Place a saucer under the pot, maybe an inch or two high, no more. Keep that full. If you haven't burnt your plant you will see it drink maybe 2 gallons a day from the saucer in weather as hot as you say.

Good luck!
 

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