Sure looks like you are getting some shine on the older leaves.
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PoweredByLove
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the plant is looking better overall than the last time you posted. but you don't seem to have been feeding it since. that overall pale yellow is nitrogen those leaves turning white are also deficiencies. just feed it on your regular schedule at half strength the first couple times then dial it up. [oh yeah make sure you saturate it well when you give the first feeding.] the leaves are perky it's just hungry. no need to start over or any of that, i've recovered from way worse. trust me, i'm like the plant whisperer in this bitch.
it's most likely gonna shed some more of those larger fan leaves before it's over but don't sweat it, just watch the tops for the new growth and look to the small leaves to get bigger. you gotta think of the leaves like solar panels, but the battery can only store so much juice. so the plant will always be shedding leaves as it ages regardless, when it doesn't need the leaves anymore they get dropped or replaced. the primary fan leaves eventually fall off (due to either being sucked dry during times of need, or because they don't get enough light, the secondaries take over, etc), the secondaries grow larger and take over, then eventually those will fall away and you are left with the bud leaves, then usually i harvest cuz it should be done by that point
it's all gotta balance you can't have a plant bigger than the roots will allow. can't have large plants without massive root system. as above so below.
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Yo love machine,
He may be drowning in nitrogen, over watering and have asphyxiated roots from too much Mg and K and too much water. A bit of N foliar would be great. Love to see the conductivity of a run through with clean water before going to N right off the bat. Sure looks like breakdown. A good aminoacid of fish would help and give you your N and make more of the calcium in the soil available. Synthetic N won't do that.
He may be drowning in nitrogen, over watering and have asphyxiated roots from too much Mg and K and too much water. A bit of N foliar would be great. Love to see the conductivity of a run through with clean water before going to N right off the bat. Sure looks like breakdown. A good aminoacid of fish would help and give you your N and make more of the calcium in the soil available. Synthetic N won't do that.
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i don't think too much nitrogen is a factor in this one, i cut my teeth on miracle gro soil. i know all about too much nitrogen lol. he didn't say what he's been doing since he flushed and let it dry out but the leaves are telling me it's growing roots again and it's not having any more lockout but it's just hungry now. i'm guessing he hasn't been feeding since the last time he posted. if it was still too much food you would see burns on the tips and the leaves would still be twisted up and curling at the margins. all these most damaged...well that's not a good word the leaves aren't damaged...all the most depleted leaves are at the bottom wich tells me this is NPK deficiencies. it's hard to throw micro deficiencies and those are always at the top. if the pH was off i would expect to see iron and sulfur def at the very least if not calcium. but the only thing that stands out is the overall pale yellowness and the perky but lackluster leaves. as you can see they are turgid so water uptake isn't the problem they just lack resources.
that's my opinion on it anyway.
that's my opinion on it anyway.
I agree, I don't think it is too much N. Love to see a real soil analysis on this one. Salt damage is one thing, having Na over K and not at damaging levels, causes breakdown. Especially in the heat. Mush. Heavy fading.
High Mg can go toxic and cause over all fading. Sulfur def too. Low P.
Manganese is often translocated from older leaves to newer leaves. Usually dull interveinal chlorosis without going to the edge.
Iron deficiency is often iron toxicity often due to insuficient Mn, heavy translocation and fading.
Over watering. No conductivity.
My bet. Low Ca. Lack of air, low P.
Send in a soil sample to learn. Spectrum in Ohio please.
High Mg can go toxic and cause over all fading. Sulfur def too. Low P.
Manganese is often translocated from older leaves to newer leaves. Usually dull interveinal chlorosis without going to the edge.
Iron deficiency is often iron toxicity often due to insuficient Mn, heavy translocation and fading.
Over watering. No conductivity.
My bet. Low Ca. Lack of air, low P.
Send in a soil sample to learn. Spectrum in Ohio please.
Ok, sorry I forgot to tell what I did after I flushed the plants out.
I fed with some super thrive with a ph of 6.6 to 7.0 don't know if that's right or not. I have fears that Ill burn the plants if I feed with my bio thrive grow formula. the soil there in has a lot of perlite in it, I don't know if that matters or not.
I did start some new seeds in a lil grow box just incase these plants die.
Also the room got flipped to the 12-12 light cycle 7-30-2016 no signs of sex yet, but that's probly due to the plants being sick .
I don't know why my green thumb isn't green any more because I use to be a good grower getting at the least 2oz's with my plants.
big thanks for the help dude.
I fed with some super thrive with a ph of 6.6 to 7.0 don't know if that's right or not. I have fears that Ill burn the plants if I feed with my bio thrive grow formula. the soil there in has a lot of perlite in it, I don't know if that matters or not.
I did start some new seeds in a lil grow box just incase these plants die.
Also the room got flipped to the 12-12 light cycle 7-30-2016 no signs of sex yet, but that's probly due to the plants being sick .
I don't know why my green thumb isn't green any more because I use to be a good grower getting at the least 2oz's with my plants.
big thanks for the help dude.
Gondo,
Looks like a P problem, however, like most deficiencies, toxicities look identical. Care to provide more info?
Looks like a P problem, however, like most deficiencies, toxicities look identical. Care to provide more info?
Started at week 2 of flower Had a friend watch my plants while I was gone for a week and came back to this. temperature is 86f and 30% humidity and off is 74f and 40% under 400 hps in ocean forest. I thought it was from a lock out as I don't have a ph meter and can only guess what the ph was when he fed. gave them fresh water once I was back and fed lightly but no change.
If it was your "friend" there are two possibilities, he over watered or he overwatered. I will bet he is a good friend and did you the worst favor and he over watered.
Stick your finger down deep and see what is happening.
Seaweed foliarly helps wonders with stress. As does Mg foliarly as well as P.
Stick your finger down deep and see what is happening.
Seaweed foliarly helps wonders with stress. As does Mg foliarly as well as P.
tricia00378
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help, first time grower, deficiency????
help, first time grower, deficiency????
hopefully this works.....
I've never posted pics to a forum, just fyi.
These (this) plant is grown outdoors, in Central Oregon. They are in size 20# Smart Pot, Kellogg raised bed organic soil, and I feed with Jobes fertilizer, and yes in the beginning I used Miracle-Gro.
Almost like overnight developments the leaves started to turn vivid yellow with green outer edges and veins. Not all leaves and not necessarily the young tender leaves.
Of the 2 females that I am growing one has completely turned around and shows no signs anymore of def. However I cannot get the one girl to snap out of it as quickly as I'd like.
I have flushed, twice a day apart thinking I had a blocked situation, the pH is within healthy range upper-6 to lower 7. I know that is kind of high(ish) however I have kept them at this # for the entire grow.
Please any info, suggestions. I have driven myself crazy trying to self diagnose from pics of other nute def plants on the internet. I have come up with a couple of 'finalists' and at a stalemate.
help, first time grower, deficiency????
hopefully this works.....
I've never posted pics to a forum, just fyi.
These (this) plant is grown outdoors, in Central Oregon. They are in size 20# Smart Pot, Kellogg raised bed organic soil, and I feed with Jobes fertilizer, and yes in the beginning I used Miracle-Gro.
Almost like overnight developments the leaves started to turn vivid yellow with green outer edges and veins. Not all leaves and not necessarily the young tender leaves.
Of the 2 females that I am growing one has completely turned around and shows no signs anymore of def. However I cannot get the one girl to snap out of it as quickly as I'd like.
I have flushed, twice a day apart thinking I had a blocked situation, the pH is within healthy range upper-6 to lower 7. I know that is kind of high(ish) however I have kept them at this # for the entire grow.
Please any info, suggestions. I have driven myself crazy trying to self diagnose from pics of other nute def plants on the internet. I have come up with a couple of 'finalists' and at a stalemate.
tricia00378
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Addendum... this all started around the 11th of August. I noticed weird yellowing.
deadhead77
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deadhead77
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Those are my plants. The only problem I can find is spider mites, but I could be wrong, if I am wrong and it's broad mites I would really like to know please. It would help me narrow my treatment
Hi!
My PH is allways 6.1.
Is this because of too mutch nutrients?
I water these both whits same water, but this one takes the nutes ok, is that normal? (they both are clones of the same Ingemars Punch)
As a precaution I flushed them both to around EC 900, they were up to 1300, witch is way too high, now that I think of it. I just transplanted them, because they had sufficent roots in the 2,5dl mugs. The growing medium is coco coir.
Thank you for aal your help!
My PH is allways 6.1.
Is this because of too mutch nutrients?
I water these both whits same water, but this one takes the nutes ok, is that normal? (they both are clones of the same Ingemars Punch)
As a precaution I flushed them both to around EC 900, they were up to 1300, witch is way too high, now that I think of it. I just transplanted them, because they had sufficent roots in the 2,5dl mugs. The growing medium is coco coir.
Thank you for aal your help!
Need help.
Need help.
Hi guys
I need some advice on my seedlings.
Ive got three seedlings on the go they seem to be growing just fine but the leaves have a tint of yellow to them is this normal? Ive got them in the last pot so they dont have to be moved. And feeding them canna start at 40 ml to 10 liters of water when the coco seems dry. Am using a hps 600w air cooled light in a grow tent and intake of fresh air from out side and outtake outside the room the temp is around 27.3 to 28.3. And its my first time. Hope u guys can help.
Need help.
Hi guys
I need some advice on my seedlings.
Ive got three seedlings on the go they seem to be growing just fine but the leaves have a tint of yellow to them is this normal? Ive got them in the last pot so they dont have to be moved. And feeding them canna start at 40 ml to 10 liters of water when the coco seems dry. Am using a hps 600w air cooled light in a grow tent and intake of fresh air from out side and outtake outside the room the temp is around 27.3 to 28.3. And its my first time. Hope u guys can help.
How old are your plants? I don't know the dosage for canna start, but 40ml/10l soudns a bit too much. Do you have a EC meter? I've used canna coco, and now I use canna aqua and start with EC around 600 and slowly lift the dose to around EC 1500 (2/3 of the full dosage) during the whole vegetative growth and go for the full dose at week 2 or 3 of flowering.
I have noticed now that it's much more hassel if u give too much nutrients, than too little.
BTW You dont need the EC meter, if you make lat's say 5 liters of full dose nutrient water and then just add 5 more liters of water and thats a half dose.
AND the most important thing is to have right PH! The plants ability to absorb aal those nutrients depends on it.
Hope this helps!
Blackwidow14
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Help please
Help please
I can't post pics yet but it's about a foot and a half to about 2 feet tall after a month and a half months the bottom leaves are beginning to yellow and die. My top leaves are very green and have many crystals and white and brown hairs but it's not growing anymore and the leaves are just dieing what do I do ? Every leaf that dosnt have hairs on it are begging to die
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Help please
Help please
Okay I'm not sure why it's not uploading more photos but my plants been at this night for about 3 weeks now and will not grow any bigger they're are many whit hairs and crystals in leafs but the ones that don't have it are beginning to turn yellow and die can somebody please help. I have miracle grow if that'll work ?
Help please
Okay I'm not sure why it's not uploading more photos but my plants been at this night for about 3 weeks now and will not grow any bigger they're are many whit hairs and crystals in leafs but the ones that don't have it are beginning to turn yellow and die can somebody please help. I have miracle grow if that'll work ?
