LED and BUD QUALITY

[Creeperpark]

We considered an entire additional row of lighting, would have been great but nowhere to move. Ive worked so many rooms like that and im just over it. My back hurts haha

You are killing it with that Rockwool friend. Damn, whatever you are doing keep doing it. Man, I love your set up WOW.

 

[Jellyfish]

I don't know what your message is exactly but without science you would not be in this world!

okay, "Dad"!

 

[jahshaka]

Day 1, this time were gonna crush. View attachment 18841960 View attachment 18841961 View attachment 18841962 View attachment 18841963 View attachment 18841964

Mate your setup is lush. Top work

 

[snakedope]

I don't know what your message is exactly but without science you would not be in this world!

Hmm tell that to all the generations before science was even a thing...
You are alive cuz of god, and cause thousands of years before you, people lived by the truth of this world, so they made it so far.
You think we're gonna survive like them with science ? I doubt it.
Human race is so fucked up today I'll be surprised if we even get to 2100

 

[Redrum92]

Mercury was and is the most important substance, no wonder they ban it everywhere claiming it's "dangerous" lol
People drink this shit, hold it in their hands, hell, it's an element with so much capabilities but much of them are not disclosed to us
First time that I hear about mercury being used in light producing fixtures, I know about it's uses in antennas, flying saucers, anti density levitation etc...
Do you have more pics of this system ?

This is the first time you've heard of Mercury in lighting? Aren't you the anti-LED lighting expert?

Also, are you debating that Mercury is toxic?

 

[Dime]

If you see flowers with only stalks they do not grow that way. Poor handling or the heads removed is the cause. The quality of the high is what matters. Very frosty weed doesn't always make quality cannabis. The cannabinoid makeup is what produces the best high. Still, people buy their weed based on looks. I don't see that changing anytime soon.

Agreed,this sells like hotcakes but the buzz is crap

 

[Hammerhead]

^^^looks like moonrocks

 

[snakedope]

We have those here also, led bud covered in led resin haha no wonder it's crap

This is the first time you've heard of Mercury in lighting? Aren't you the anti-LED lighting expert?

Lol, gtfo

Also, are you debating that Mercury is toxic?

Yes, prove me wrong, like I proved all of you wrong when u said it's toxic lol
Flip a page or 2 back for the vid, but there's many more like that "crazy" Russian guy haha his not alone in this
Now, anything you wanna say that's related to led/hid or you just like to run your mouth ?
Kids, grow up.

 

[greyfader]

here he goes again. he's baiting by quoting statements not even directed at him.

please don't feed the troll!

 

[snakedope]

Delta please gtfo with your crying
If you don't have anything informative to say we don't need your 6 year old comments r
you are really making everyone teird

And what about redrum post wasn't directed at me ? Or you don't know how to read ?

 

[Crooked8]

Delta please gtfo with your crying
If you don't have anything informative to say we don't need your 6 year old comments r
you are really making everyone teird

And what about redrum post wasn't directed at me ? Or you don't know how to read ?

So Snake when we gonna see your setup? Really looking forward to it.

 

[snakedope]

My setup is pure hobby,
1 x 100x100cm flower tent
1 x 90x90cm flower tent
1 x 90x90 veg tent
Both flower tents have 600w 400v philips in them, veg tent is just a simple 250w philips aswell, I'm not able to find any good 400w hps here just china so I stay with the 600w for now, although temps are very hard to maintain, my lights on temps are anywhere from 31c to 37c.
I'm on day 40ish with these ghs SLH and big buddah cheese, just some pheno hunting as for now, trying to get back to that old ams funk back in 05
I think I found 2 keepers, one of each but only the smoke test will tell

Tomorrow I'll post some lights off pics, can't understand nothing with this hps

 

[snakedope]

90x90 flower tent, day 5F
Mix of big buddah blue cheese and some white berry

 

[Crooked8]

My setup is pure hobby,
1 x 100x100cm flower tent
1 x 90x90cm flower tent
1 x 90x90 veg tent
Both flower tents have 600w 400v philips in them, veg tent is just a simple 250w philips aswell, I'm not able to find any good 400w hps here just china so I stay with the 600w for now, although temps are very hard to maintain, my lights on temps are anywhere from 31c to 37c.
I'm on day 40ish with these ghs SLH and big buddah cheese, just some pheno hunting as for now, trying to get back to that old ams funk back in 05
I think I found 2 keepers, one of each but only the smoke test will tell View attachment 18842303

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Tomorrow I'll post some lights off pics, can't understand nothing with this hps

37C!? Thats almost 100 F thats very hot. Are you running any ac or ventilation? Def see some heat stress signs here but they look decent. Just glad to see you do in fact grow something. All this banter for you to not even contribute seemed shitty. Some respect has been earned 🫡

 

[snakedope]

Haha thanks man, your a pro cool guy in my book, don't stress about the shit I say about LEDs I'm just pissed at the world
Yes some heat stress is present,
Like I told CannaT, it's not a big deal if your bulb is high up somewhat and you got a good enough vent, and I have good vents in both tents, but the heat is there.
Soon I'm gonna hook them up to ac, cuz I prefer to grow my keeper clone runs at 29-30c.

 

[Crooked8]

Haha thanks man, your a pro cool guy in my book, don't stress about the shit I say about LEDs I'm just pissed at the world
Yes some heat stress is present,
Like I told CannaT, it's not a big deal if your bulb is high up somewhat and you got a good enough vent, and I have good vents in both tents, but the heat is there.
Soon I'm gonna hook them up to ac, cuz I prefer to grow my keeper clone runs at 29-30c.

If you keep your VPD closer to .85-.9 in veg and then 1.0-1.2 or so in flower with good IPM those tents will crush. How far away is your fixture from plant tops? If you stay flowering at those temps you wont see the potential of those genetics. Investments in this arena always pay off.

 

[snakedope]

If I set the RH at 75-85% I think the heat will be none issue and VPD will be solid but it's hard keeping vents trying to clear that heat, and keeping RH at the same time
So I gave up on VPD for now, I try to read them and see what they tell me when it comes to stress or needs, so far it's going good, can be much better no doubt.

I try not to waste too much power on phenos I don't know nothing about, I'll dial the environment much more in the keeper runs.

 

[Cerathule]

The higher colour temps have a big blue spike, which I thought might be a problem.

The higher K would be slightly more energy efficient so it would be a plus.

On paper yes, but the more blueshiftet wavelength gets the more they get filtered out inside a leaf, resulting in red being about 30% more efficient for photosynthesis than blue.
But that is only photosynthesis (carbon-fixation). Some of the effects on quality discussed here in this thread may be derived from a gene response activated from photoreceptor stimulation.

 

[exoticrobotic]

Some of the effects on quality discussed here in this thread may be derived from a gene response activated from photoreceptor stimulation

Let's hope not.

 

[exoticrobotic]

I'd love to see leds deliver the trichome head size and trichome field density seen with hps or cmh or even flouro for that matter but i'm yet to see it really.

You will get maybe double the yield of flowers with led vs hid but the trichome field density is half what it is with hids.

Maybe the newer leds with different chips and spectrums will manage it, i see the occasional good led grow but most seem to produce buds with more cystolith hairs and stalks than trichome heads.

Whether this is from too much calcium feeding or too high light intensity or slightly suboptimal light spectrum i'm not sure.