YellowCanaryConsulting
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I think i better hang in here for a while, for great quality bud sake
Hello Snakedope. I study future agriculture concepts intensively. Led has not avoided my radar. I've quantified the physiological differences under LED. I often wonder how to divulge such valuable knowledge. I will say it like this:
When a lot of the big NorCal black market kingpins went legal, they had to stop stealing water. The legal water source cut the size and quality of their plants significantly. Not a single one of these legacy guys could figure it out. We saw guys using peat moss with zero buffer to get any trace of flavor, and accepting 25% reduction in weight...
Then the dep and indoor ops started switching to Led since they couldn't steal diesel anymore. They did this before learning anything about light or plants or the photosynthesis that connects them. Marketing, technobabble and impulse always come first with Cannabis folks, sadly. Now under led, quality was too low to hide and yields were too low to profit off extraction. Lots of these guys sitting on permits right now, because their product wouldn't sell.
*Skipping the boring scientific details*
Long story short: Under hampered DNA expression caused by congenital nutritive issues, Led spectrum forces CaCO3 in the plant to create cyanidin glucosides and re-solublizing calcium carbonate cystolith structures as photo-oxidative defenses, and lends itself to fatty acid conjugation and creation of calcium soaps. Typically, for thousands of years, cannabis created thiols, not anthocyanins and calcium structures, to protect itself from UV. This is a major turning point in the evolution of a plant who's photo protectant properties had only coincidentally drawn our interest thousands of years ago. We've all seen cannabis that was "all neck, no head". I'm old enough to remember Cannabis with zero necks whatsoever.
We've all made a vinegar volcano in school. What neutralizes the acid in a vinegar volcanoe? Acetic acid is neutralized by solute carbonate.. Acetic acid, specifically, is the reason OG Kush is special. Pinene to pinyl acetate. Borneol to bornyl acetate, limonene to limonyl acetate, linalyl acetate etc. All strains rely on carboxylic acids. It's where the cannabinoids and aromas of Cannabis originate. All carboxylic acids are neutralized by carbonates.
The aromas from the region trends right along with the push of lime based calcium. Skunk (thiol) vanished. Babyshit (calcium soap) came and went. Now it's baked goods, plastics, shoe spray, cold metal, cream, vanilla, butter, synthetic chocolate, candy cigarettes, chalk, milk, cereal milk, milk and cereal breakfast bars.. Breeders, with the power of evolution in their hands, took the shit out of the Babyshit, which was an era of mids to begin with. The era today is the Babyweed era. Devolved Cannabis in the hands of the west. Grown poorly for dozens cycles, finally killed under Led, the dro that broke the camels sack. No wonder tissue culture is so hot. It used to be all funk, no baby. Now all baby no funk. No thiols. Babyweed. People are hyped to catch a whiff of a lemon peel these days... And it'll be over a Pepto bismal background when they do, or perhaps sprayed from a bottle. Market data confirms people will smoke anything today, any form of incomplete metabolism EXCEPT green leaf volatiles (hay) and amino catabolism (fishy) .
The solution is to run a wider calcium:boron ratio and eliminate carbonates completely, on top of proper nutrition (which includes microbial metabolites). And to make sure every enzyme cofactor is present in the soil. There goes all the infertility issues the boron deficient breeding experts seem to have.
Can you judge these issues remotely?
Yes
Plants affected by excess Calcium carbonate will have burnt tips, bumpy course leaves, light sensitivity, leaf drop, purple stripes, curled midribs. Botched smells. No euphoria. No therapy. I can listen to a trimmer handle a cola and hear if it is affected. I can look at the cloud you blow and tell by the smoke texture. I can tell by the look on your face after taking a dab. Modern concentrate is what, 90% thc. What's the other 10%? Calcium conjugates? Smells like it.. Tastes like it. Feels like I should be able to sue someone after ingesting this:
Domestic quality standards have changed drastically since growers in Norcal are no longer stealing their fertilizers, and are now attempting to make their own with the help of snake oil podcasters posing as communal consultants, or some other various "community" of salesmen and saboteurs. The "organic" cannabis podcasts are the absolute worst.
If you are trying to do the earth good and join the organic movement, whatever you do, ignore the people telling you to put carbonate in your coots mix, or anything that sounds like it comes from that realm. We have always and will always buffer peat with basic slag, calcium silicate. Craft growers worth their salt will be avoiding calcium carbonate at all costs, not recommending it to be top dressed onto flowering plants. Cannabis hates CaCO3 and anything produced from it (calnit), you can tell by looking at any grow journal.
No this problem doesn't only affect Cannabis grown under Led. Cannabis grown under led simply hyper accumulates this problem, it's growers hyper ignore it, and the breeders have no awareness that they continually neuter stunt and cull their best plants.
I've performed graduated experiments. Known cuts will change aroma on a day by day, to week by week basis as you feed them carbonate. When the aroma changes, it is degrading: we have identified aromas associated with lower quality, taking most subjectivity out of the discussion around judging quality. 99% of people's opinions no longer matter, the science is inarguable. Chalk flavored weed is low quality. If you like it, that's okay. It's okay to like low quality. I prefer low quality women personally. There's nothing wrong with liking a 'strain' that smells like a pair of new shoes, but that's objectively the result of poor quality Cannabis with incomplete, altered metabolism.
Every time you see a fabric pot in the hands of a Cannabis grower it has limestone deposits leaking through the bag.. And the laundry list of lime injury symptoms typically mis attributed to nitrogen tox by ill informed growers. I don't even need to see the leaves in this case to know the buds will suffer from the hand of hardwater, powdered cow bones, homemade calcium extracts . There's a reason nature dissolves the entire animal quickly, except the bone.. slow release only. There's a reason various cultures dating back hundreds to thousands of years employeed various means of restricting transpirative flow before harvest in regions of high alkalinity.
The frostiest, least potent bud I've ever had in my hands, professionally grown by a well respected producer in southern Oregon, was absolutely loaded with calcium conjugates, and completely unsmokable on taste alone, as it tasted just like the bone meal poured in the pot. Forcing myself to consume it, I was left with total regret. Like being in an Oscar Meyer dumpster fire, but less exciting by far. . I do have scientific review on how the calcium in the bone meal drags fragments of carbon and dna from the cow into the plants structure, but you can try it for yourself if you don't believe it: 2 cups of Sta-green bone meal in a 15 gallon pot of dank organic bud, mid flower. Take cuts, make seeds. Youll see. The offspring is ruined. You'll realize all this industries problems, instantly.
Tldr: Cannabis growers have historically failed to diagnose excess CaCO3. LED spectrum forces the plant to utilize a larger portion of Calcium in defensive manners which are completely unuseful to Cannabis consumers.
Instead of learning to steer away from the possible permanent, irreversible destruction of an already threatened gene pool, the standards for cannabis simply are changed by the ones producing it, as in the past (when simultaneously the seed industry began and seedless weed became mandatory). Purple is no longer grouped in with brown as it should be. (I challenge growers to produce a plant with zero "royal brown").
People growing increasingly shitty weed under Hid were unable to satisfy their own low standards after switching to tap water and Led, which turned their plants into limestone statues full of calcium soaps.
Good growers under Hid noticed a decline in quality under Led and addressed the issue using science and logic.
Average growers typically dont care about quality, and really never notice anything about anything until they are told to; the most untapped data resource on planet. If you could get the average person to simply hold observations and be honest about them, we'd be on Mars by now with all the data that could be collected. It's extremists who lead us down winding paths instead of presenting their piece of the puzzle. The extremists in society are always on the stage, but never have time to present anything meaningful. They repeat themselves while on the clock. The average person simply feels his voice holds no value in the presence of the loud, monetized extremist.
Throw your dolomite away, return your TM7, ignore the guy trying to scoop rocks out of his back yard and sell it to you by the bucket. Buy a pallet of basic slag. Use normal fertilizer. No calmag. If you need calcium, you're short on boron, not calcium, so add boron, you'll get the calcium. Ignore the old guy who whines about 'millenials with ph meters' while telling you to dump 4 cups of random chalky minerals into a cubic foot of balanced soil. No one wants to smoke his herb. I've tested his special soil mix. Trust me!
