LED and BUD QUALITY

[weedemart]

If i ran 1.1 ec i would starve my plants. I ran 1.4-1.8 ec a few runs ago and they were underfed and i showed that with tissue testing. I posted the lab results along with photos of my deficiencies. Since upping our base feed and supplementing P and K, we corrected the issue. We need to be around 2.0 to stay in good shape. Our lights just put out so many photons we have to keep up with that. Another thanks to @Ca++ who visually diagnosed that quite early

It doesnt work this way. EC is a measure of salt but it doesnt tell you which salt.

I make my own nutrients. Everything is dialed in. I dont have excess of anything and I give just enought so plant have sufficent nutrient that they dont show defiency . I don't grow the same way 99% grower does.
At 1.1 EC my nitrogen needs are met. If you say your plant would starve at this rate, well your nutrients is not balanced for your plants.

My feed is so clean , if i could remove all the nitrogen you could drink it.

 

[Crooked8]

the question is do you test your weed for heavy metals? probly no.

Are you suggesting i should starve them and sacrifice yield and quality for this reason?

 

[Crooked8]

It doesnt work this way. EC is a measure of salt but it doesnt tell you which salt.

I make my own nutrients. Everything is dialed in. I dont have excess of anything and I give just enought so plant have sufficent nutrient that they dont show defiency . I don't grow the same way 99% grower does.
At 1.1 EC my nitrogen needs are met. If you say your plant would starve at this rate, well your nutrients is not balanced for your plants.

My feed is so clean , if i could remove all the nitrogen you could drink it.

Look, i dont make my own nutrients. I have no desire to. I work 4 jobs. I feed what i feed and i submit tissue tests. If the tests say im underfeeding, im gonna feed more. Thats that. I dont have a small tent, as you can see, this is a lot of work, im a one man show.

 

[wh1p3dm34t]

i just let this here, no comment

 

[weedemart]

Look, i dont make my own nutrients. I have no desire to. I work 4 jobs. I feed what i feed and i submit tissue tests. If the tests say im underfeeding, im gonna feed more. Thats that. I dont have a small tent, as you can see, this is a lot of work, im a one man show.

Ahah ok.

What you just said, is the WHY most companies fail. But its fine. You are not a company. Just fun that this speech keep coming back.

Btw i'm a one man show too but yes I wil sacrifice yield anyday to get better quality. There a correlation between yield and quality. More you yield , less quality. I'm on the lower extreme of the yield. But what I harvest is sought after. Thats what matter to me.

 

[weedemart]

i just let this here, no comment

more like 10 ppm

 

[JKD]

i just let this here, no comment

Development and Testing of an IoT Spectroscopic Nutrient Monitoring System for Use in Micro Indoor Smart Hydroponics

Nutrient monitoring in Micro Indoor Smart Hydroponics (MISH) relies on measuring electrical conductivity or total dissolved solids to determine the amount of nutrients in a hydroponic solution. Neither method can distinguish concentrations of individual nutrients. This study presents the...

www.mdpi.com

 

[Crooked8]

Ahah ok.

What you just said, is the WHY most companies fail. But its fine. You are not a company. Just fun that this speech keep coming back.

Btw i'm a one man show too but yes I wil sacrifice yield anyday to get better quality. There a correlation between yield and quality. More you yield , less quality. I'm on the lower extreme of the yield. But what I harvest is sought after. Thats what matter to me.

So if i dont make my own nutrients i fail? I wholeheartedly disagree. Do you run something larger than your small tent? What do you know about making a large company successful? Do you have higher quality than what i just posted? These are legitimate questions with no ill intent or harshness intended. I havent seen better quality from you. Id love to! I admire smaller grows if they crank out the best. As i stated before yield is second to quality for us as well. Quality is the number one goal. But we do need to produce enough to make our project work. Were very profitable. Nutrients are a drop in the bucket of our costs. Our base feed is cheap and reliable.

 

[weedemart]

So if i dont make my own nutrients i fail? I wholeheartedly disagree. Do you run something larger than your small tent? What do you know about making a large company successful? Do you have higher quality than what i just posted? I havent seen better quality from you. Id love to! I admire smaller grows if they crank out the best. As i stated before yield is second to quality for us as well. Quality is the number one goal. But we do need to produce enough to make our project work. Were very profitable. Nutrients are a drop in the bucket of our costs. Our base feed is cheap and reliable.

Honestly? Yes. I pay less than a cent per L of full strenght nutrient. How you pay? 3-4 cents ?
Now imagine feeding 15 million liter per year.
Do you think farmer buy gallon of general hydroponics

But you are not a business , doesnt matter. I know pretty much everything to make a large grow ops successful. Ask me! Of course I won't reveal the secret of my succces but I'm willing to share detail that I don't value.

All we can share is picture friend. It doesnt tell all the story.
But yes your stuff look good.

 

[wh1p3dm34t]

mixing your own is risky CA++ noticed instantly how fcked is poor plant i posted, and it happened because someone with zero chemistry knowledge calculated the "perfect" formula... aha
quite big difference when it is in another growers hand

 

[weedemart]

mixing your own is risky CA++ noticed instantly how fcked is poor plant i posted, and it happened because someone with zero chemistry knowledge calculated the "perfect" formula... aha
quite big difference when it is in another growers hand

They doesnt look that bad but yea yield is poor. What is the ''perfect'' recipe , can you share?

 

[wh1p3dm34t]

there is no universal perfect recipe, every environment is different, every grower is different, and every plant is different. it takes few rounds with a clone to explore a plant and find the best for one setup.

 

[weedemart]

Thats not true I standardized every aspect.

This is one the difference between the legal and home grower. In the legal market you have to produce SOP in order to operate. And you will operate these SOP on every schedule and strain. So you must have an ,'' unversal perfect recipe''.

But I agree every grower is different.

As long as you are not at one of the extreme , any strain will thrive.

 

[Crooked8]

Thats not true I standardized every aspect.

This is one the difference between the legal and home grower. In the legal market you have to produce SOP in order to operate. And you will operate these SOP on every schedule and strain. So you must have an ,'' unversal perfect recipe''.

But I agree every grower is different.

As long as you are not at one of the extreme , any strain will thrive.

How could you possibly standardize every aspect? Dtw feed vs dwc vs nft vs soil vs cocoa all have different feed requirements. CEC makes a huge difference for buffering ph. Light intensity and vpd variances. I dont get that.

 

[weedemart]

How could you possibly standardize every aspect? Dtw feed vs dwc vs nft vs soil vs cocoa all have different feed requirements. CEC makes a huge difference for buffering ph. Light intensity and vpd variances. I dont get that.

Because I thought about every aspect, I dont mix mediums and I dont mix systems.rockwool dtw all the way.This way I can feed from the same reservoir the entire grow ops and dillute the mix for clones. Light intensity and vpd per schedule/stage.

For environnement , I have a college degree in HVAC

 

[wh1p3dm34t]

and how is that "standard"?
standard is not about "I" standard is something that everyone could use with the same results..
few examples.... laboratory standars, ISO standards... whatever standards...

 

[weedemart]

and how is that "standard"?
standard is not about "I" standard is something that everyone could use with the same results..
few examples.... laboratory standars, ISO standards... whatever standards...

Anyone that know my SOP could reproduce the same result.... with the same setup.

Its a sort of ''standard'' but its not like ISO because cannabis is not legal worldwide every business fit the best SOP they think.

Like I said, every public legal weed company in canada has to produce his SOP(standard of procedure).

Different producer different SOP because of what you said... Different method.

I agree that stupid but they dont know.

 

[Crooked8]

there is no universal perfect recipe, every environment is different, every grower is different, and every plant is different. it takes few rounds with a clone to explore a plant and find the best for one setup.

Thats not true I standardized every aspect.

This is one the difference between the legal and home grower. In the legal market you have to produce SOP in order to operate. And you will operate these SOP on every schedule and strain. So you must have an ,'' unversal perfect recipe''.

But I agree every grower is different.

As long as you are not at one of the extreme , any strain will thrive.

So you standardized YOUR setup with YOUR strains. How does that make his statement untrue? If you got a heavier feeder in your space with different lights boom your standard fails. So what he said IS true.

 

[weedemart]

So you standardized YOUR setup with YOUR strains. How does that make his statement untrue? If you got a heavier feeder in your space with different lights boom your standard fails. So what he said IS true.

Nah. I standadized my method for any strain. Look I'm in a small grow tent , I could do the same in your room.
''heavy feeders'' cannabis require lot of nitrogen thats it. If you know optimum ,minimum ,maximum amount of nitrogen cannabis can take you just have to aim between the two.... will work for any strain. It's not optimal for yield but it will yield quality cannabis everytime.

I said paying 10x time the price of self-made nutrient is one of the reason people fail in the legal market and yes it include you.

 

[Crooked8]

Nah. I standadized my method for any strain. Look I'm in a small grow tent , I could do the same in your room.
''heavy feeders'' cannabis require lot of nitrogen thats it. If you know optimum ,minimum ,maximum amount of nitrogen cannabis can take you just have to aim between the two.... will work for any strain. It's not optimal for yield but it will yield quality cannabis everytime.

I said paying 10x time the price of self-made nutrient is one of the reason people fail in the legal market and yes it include you.

See this is just factually false. You could not be more wrong here. When feeding 1.4-1.8 ec i was not nitrogen deficient. I was Potassium deficient. Most people who suffer nitrogen deficiency can correct this easily based on obvious chlorosis. In my case i was accused of overfeeding because the edge of my leaves turned brown, but in fact, and after testing, it was clearly K deficiency which presents itself that way. Im sorry man, im calling bullshit on this.

So in this comments example you said its 10x the price but in your last comment you said 1cent vs 3-4 cents. So youre now going from 300x-400x markup to 1000x markup. Which is it? Which nute line are you basing this on? Because advanced nutes are expensive as fuck and front row isnt. Youre generalizing too much to make any solid point.