Land of a thousand colas, part deux

[gmanwho]

Wow Makes my work look so half assed

Hey man!!! dont put yourself down. I do the same quite often too, become my worst critic. Work with what you got man. Your plants look very healthy and your doing all u can.

no matter what, in any situation, some of us always will always expect more from ourselves. like we are some fucking machine that turns on an runs 100% all day 24/7, but we are not. And when things arent what we dreamed or imagined, we think we failed 100% in some way.

the lists are longer then our days. stream line , look for patterns to simplify daily tasks, this will allow more things to get done, or have down time to enjoy what you accomplished. Look at the positives, look at what you accomplished, examine your failures an learn from them....

Now if i could only listen to myself sometimes..

 

[Hasch]

Like the details to your grow.

Ok, some larger trees.

I thought maybe check the possibly of cutting them
but to cut these tall ones would be a shame, so please don't.

 

[flower~power]

Shoreline headband looking very indica or afghani, named these "cousin it" for now.

This was also after a whopper of a day filled with sun. The Sun was very very strong that day, so i imagine they all went thru an awakening, hence the droop.

in this first pic u can see the shadow casted by the pine trees in picture 2 of post #175(the first post with this layout). in this photo below, the sun is to my back and left. however , from this stand point, the sun is now starting to set to the right further and further each day. by august 20th there should be no shadow from these pines. then from now till november there will be no southern distractions

In this pic the sun is to my left

so the sun was behind these pines end of day. now moving to the left. Santa cruz blue dream loving it

you got multiple plants per container …. how’s that work out?

 

[flower~power]

A few pics from today…. these are Pancakes

 

[gmanwho]

you got multiple plants per container …. how’s that work out?

Everything ive done indoor or outdoor in the past 6 or so years, if possible, if i have the numbers from healthy moms to do so, i double up cuttings at clone time.


in some of the recent photos, theres clones of the blue dream and the royal kush beds that have 2 cuttings per rooter, and then 2 rooters per bed. so actually 4 clones per 100gal.

also dont forget, clones have less vigor then seed. so i try to always double up with clones indoors

i have great results. but u need to get in there and clear out the lowers a bit better then regular. Train the main stalks away from each other to stake and form a " V ". you usually have to increase your container size abit too. not double . but maybe 30-40% . and also in coco top drip i am increasing feeds per light cycle

kinda started some years back cloning in rockwool cubes, and i got tired that if the cutting wilts or drops out, the rooter is useless and is tossed. (ill clone hundreds at times). so i was tossing all these rooters (sometimes), other times 95%+ cloning rates. so i was like well if i put 2 fresh cuts to rooter cube, and only 1 survives & roots healthy, i can still keep the rooter.

so i started double cloning per rooter. an in turn i then noticed how much quicker i could fill the canopy and or trellis. I wouldn't say 2 cuts per rooter doubles the yield in most situations, but a 25-50% increase is noticed across the board.

For the sake of explination in the next instance, indoor , im defining a planter as a 1 to 3 gallon container vegged out. then that is either flowered, or uppotted to something bigger. Each planter should have 1 rooter with 2 clones.

The flower room #1 sip side, are basically 1.25 vegged planters per light. or 12 planters, 9 lights. in a high end yield situation. i can yield over 3# dried usable flower per 4'x4'area, give or take.

before, the highest i actually calculated was like 3.8 with de hps set to 600w an a 315cmh verts per 4'x4'. but i actually think now calculating gram per sqft, an then wattage per sqft, the numbers have increased. more precise and increased with the introduction of led

from what ive seen the Lanky thinner plants are always better to double up clones. I often gauge by how long i vegged, compared to how many empty spaces i have in the trellis squares by early mid flower. Over an over i notice, the spots with less trellis squares filled, where often single clone planters.

I guess you can say in a sense, this is my version of more plants to a 4x8 tray, verse less plants that are vegged longer to fill that same 4x8 tray.

Try my best for quality, realization of the current canopy and real estate expenses, electricity cost and usage, are my drivers to become efficient an try new things. sometimes it works. but there is also a point when to many clones per 4x4 area will not work either.

I know i should care more about plant count at times

 

[gmanwho]

So heres the centrifugal pump tea brewer i bought used 3 years ago. At the time new this was a $12-15k setup. i paid i think $3200 for everything. The brewer is made by a company called geotea. It also came with 2 other 250gal tanks. the tanks have a metal housing so u can use a forklift to move, an or attach securely to a trailer or pickup bed for mobile delivery.

The main delivery tank has a 5 or 6hp honda gas powered motor and water pump with a tank circulation option too. Bunch of directional valves and an adjustable pressure regulators, gauges. There are 12v air pumps on the delivery tank so u can aerate the brew on the go. Or just run the gas motor at idle and move the valves to allow full to partial circulation in the tank.

I basically brew in the tea brewer tote for 2 days, dump half or 100 gal into the spreader/delivery tank on the trailer. then top off the tank trailer with either pond water or water from the well.

this was me disassembling the brewing tank to make lighter so i could lift it onto the wood blocking by myself. I wanted to get the brewer higher so i could later use gravity to drain the tea brewer into the trailer tank. So disassembling made the most sense. At least now u can see the inner stainless steel piping. All quick connections and or sanitary fittings used in commercial applications.

This is only a temp setup. An if i can stay here longer i will setup a permanent home for it in one of the adjacent lean too's.

Pic is actually good cause u can see how the stainless piping is routed. the blower in the metal square frame sits on top of the tote. Air is forced down the 1.5" stainless pipe into the bottom of tote under water. Then the air comes out the lateral sections of that large tee.

Attached to that air piping is a " U ", one section of that U feeds that large tee, then the other half has goes to an adjustable valve that changes the air flow into the tea bag section. Tea bag an holder are not shown in this pic.

the tea bag holder has like a 9" diameter bell housing that u attach the 9"x24" tea bag to. the housing helps keep the bag formed into a circle. When the air is forced down into the bottom of the tea bag, the rising air bubbles roll and tumble the ingredients. Keeping the material in the bag highly aerated, but that rolling action forces the material to bounce off each other as well.

eventually most of the ingredients in the tea bag break down, most will pass thru the mesh bag. then become part of the tea as long as there is movement.

Really nice setup... fucking love it! easy to clean too.

brewer boiling, and at end of this clip is the spreader on the military trailer

https://www.icmag.com/data/xfmg/video/3042/3042530-6e27f3095e84f4a49973e9049d2799c7.mov

 

[flower~power]

 

[rasputin]

I know i should care more about plant count at times

Plant counts are unconstitutional.

 

[gmanwho]

Plant counts are unconstitutional.

@rasputin , damn you came out of lurking!! I need to get down your way and we can got get some Banh mi's and those fire ass fried wings in chili sweet sauce. ohhhh ......and those ridiculous mango sticky rice egg rolls. my mouth just actually watered. im due to be your way second weeked in august if i decide to goto that yearly pigroast.

numbers , Im sick of playing this game when they make the rules. They have pretty decent medical laws in this state. But the laws still need to be better. Or better yet, there shouldn't be any restrictions. basically anything under 2ft is consdered a seedling, and seedlings arent counted. but that always doesnt help either.

 

[gmanwho]

digging this golden goat x nev haze

 

[rasputin]

@rasputin , damn you came out of lurking!! I need to get down your way and we can got get some Banh mi's and those fire ass fried wings in chili sweet sauce. ohhhh ......and those ridiculous mango sticky rice egg rolls. my mouth just actually watered. im due to be your way second weeked in august if i decide to goto that yearly pigroast.

numbers , Im sick of playing this game when they make the rules. They have pretty decent medical laws in this state. But the laws still need to be better. Or better yet, there shouldn't be any restrictions. basically anything under 2ft is consdered a seedling, and seedlings arent counted. but that always doesnt help either.

Wow, what timing. I was going to ask you if you were coming this way anytime soon. It was meant to be. Pig roast or not, swing through. Bahn mi on me. I’ve been meaning to go by there. His mother makes a sausage called sai ua, it’s superb and I need more.

How you liking the Goat NL5Haze? I need to pop some of those and the LVPK NL5Haze. Those are two oldies I miss having around. Strawberry Cough too. Might have to pop some Strawberry Diesel to scratch that itch.

 

[flower~power]

 

[gmanwho]

Man harvest time was pretty intense. Once the harvest began, time flew, at the end we raced the incoming weather. And in the end we took the last 8 plants whole an moved the last bit of work inside. We literally finished up anything outside as it began to sprinkle.

Took like 12 days to pull everything down and mix in the different break down methods. myself and a younger helper put in 11-12 hr days. then my wife an neighbor helped like 4-6 hrs each day for a majority of those days.

The greenhouse section was broke down and upper colas where cherry picked onsite then hung inside to dry. Anything not picture perfect was bucked down stem an deleafed, then lightly compacted and fresh frozen. Some other of the test plots did great an where hung whole to dry.

Overall it was a great growing season here. the weather was great overall and while there was some minimal loss to botryis in the end, the biggest problem i had this year seemed mostly from a stem borer. If my "Picture insect" identifier program was correct, the cabbage stem flea beetle was my biggest problem. Because it was pretty much guaranteed that if i saw any boytrtis, then i followed that branch down into the main stalks, there would be a large pea pod growth in the stem that the larvae had infiltrated.



Early august at the beginning of flower we cut back lots an lots of inner sites, took about 4 solid days. then triimed again late august. I don't know many people these days that buy outdoor so like 80% was bucked down an fresh frozen for later. The fresh frozen will be either for bubble hash or will be run in the butane closed loop system i picked up.


pic of the stem borer.

And in this pic u can see the peapod looking damage. Then if you look in the stem valleys u can see the little pile of poop tailing the larvae leaves outside the cavity. Pretty easy to spot. Now next year i have some bio insecticides i plan on spraying earlier. And also the greenhouse should be finished by then adding some protection.

 

[flower~power]

saw you uploading pics XY I bumped I wanna see some finished flowers ..

 

[flower~power]

respect

 

[gmanwho]

I had planned this for ahwile. while I only had to move 3 of the planters in one test plot, im glad i setup the planters with pallets like this.

While i had the solartracker program i was monitoring compared to tree blockage, i ended up changing the original plant orientation in this one other spot. originally was east to west, changed to a southwest line.

mid July sometime, i think. bottom 2 right planters are santa cruz blue dream (for total block of 4 planters)
Then middle 2 visible planters where royal kush(4planters again. Far left block is shoreline head band

Shoreline head band 4 block on left

santa cruz side

 

[gmanwho]

inner isle rows. Shoreline headbands on left. Double og chem on right

double og chem side

 

[greyfader]

nice buddy! i wish i could grow outside but i'm living in dumbfuckistan again and they have medieval laws here.

 

[dimodz]

So you have 2 strains or cuts in same smartpot .,?

 

[gmanwho]

So you have 2 strains or cuts in same smartpot .,?

The fabric pots that have clones have 2 or 4 clones. These are the 4 royal kush pots, and the 4 santa cruz blue dream pots.

The 10 fabric pots that have the Double og chem s1's from seed, have 2 plants from seed per pot.

The 4 pots with the Skuntek Shoreline headbands fems each have 3 plants from seed per pot.

The basic idea is to run the outdoor plants and not waste electricity an real estate an determine which clones should eventually be ran indoors.

nice buddy! i wish i could grow outside but i'm living in dumbfuckistan again and they have medieval laws here.

I lived in dumbfuckistan for awhile. It almost bite me, twice. I then moved to half dumbfuckistan. An then moved again. I feel your pain, really. And life is short.

I really want to grow more and turn this palce into a full fledged destination. i been massing quite a seed collection for the last 20+ yrs in hopes to grow tons of lines out. Produce f2's and or some small other breeding projects. I see people i know passing away, never to live a fraction of their dreams out.

When i was 10-12 i watched my father die from cancer. This changed everything. im only walking this earth for a short time an my time maybe soon. This place is 27yrs in the making.


Let there be light!

Saw this one early morning while i was checking leaf density