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Lacto Bacilli: process and discussion

NUG-JUG

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Your dogs can chow down on the cheese..You can just eat some good yogurt or sauerkraut to have the same effect, and a lot less gross imo. I had the same confusion as your for awhile about BIM and Lacto B cultures. I feel like making the lacto b is a good intro into BIM since it's one of the three parts..
 

Rusty420

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sweet, thanks man...im sure they will love it! i figured its the same thing, the milk just kills the other non lactose eating bacteria anyway...right?

i will make a lb air n milk collection an mix the serum of that with the soil n leaf BIM serum, what else?? i want to make that stuff they sell in bottles fo $$$$...:)

thanks again.:yes

EDIT: back to earlier in the thread, (or was it another??) high salt tolerating strains of bacteria could be collected from our coastal bretheren in the same way...rice + sea air + milk? no? stoned thaught..
 

jaykush

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EDIT: back to earlier in the thread, (or was it another??) high salt tolerating strains of bacteria could be collected from our coastal bretheren in the same way...rice + sea air + milk? no? stoned thaught..

yes thats one of the best parts about doing this yourself, your collecting microbes adapted to your environment, not from some company that makes it 1000's of miles away in a completely different place.
 

jaykush

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edit: i done did some searchin, and from what i saw: adding milk to the current rice water when its fermented would be a waste...i will just add some water n mollasses and keep it for foliar aplication. when make the next batch with just air an milk, collecting only lb, after innoculation will it fend off infection in the body?

to be honest i have never taken this culture for myself. i cant say what the results would be, but i have known a few people to gargle the culture when they have a sore throat.
 

3rdEye

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Just poured my first homemade lacto culture on some tester plants. Giving them a few hours to see about any immediate obvious effects. Used the recipe and directions as per Jaykush's post.

Will post back about results. :) .... i almost ate some of the cheesy stuff. Helps that i was hungry. ;)
 

Floralfaction

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Thanks so much for this Jay. I just diluted and applied my first run of this today. I also used it for my first FPE (fresh dandelion root).

Thanks for everything you do.

blessings
 

MrFista

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If you are going to gargle or use this for yourselves be very careful. there is no real safety here except that Jay lives in a very healthy environment and has very good practises as well. But he's not consuming it...

You want your pH below 3.6 before human consumption. Really, I'd advise against this practise till you know exactly what you are doing.
 

3rdEye

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Just wanted to post back about my experiences with my lacto b solutions.

So far, so excellent. :D A few days after applying a dilute solution to my plants they were noticeably more radiant. Smells perked up a tad and the leaves flattened out some. The very tip of some leaves curled down a little, but more like a nipple, than the curl you would get from a too concentrated nutrient solution.

I applied some directly to some containers with spent soil from a grow and it definitely sped up the decomposition versus non treated ones or versus even ones that were simply wet for that matter. I poured some of the pure lacto b culture on some cement with cat urine on it and it got rid of most of the smell. :)
 
A

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Hey everyone. I have a question and there are many smart people on here who may be able to answer me.This is more for my curiosity than anything.

In the original article it said LB can be used as a denitrifier in water to make nitrogen thats less harmful to fish. I think that would be nitrate, so if Im assuming correctly LB converts ammonia to nitrate and thats a good thing right. Plants like nitrate as their form of nitrogen. Or am I wrong?
Thanks.
 

jaykush

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LB does convert ammonia, this is why i spray it in my chicken coop, no smell, faster decomposition, better end compost.
 
A

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Thanks Jay, I know what you mean about the faster decomposition, through fermentation, root balls disappear in no time.
 

3rdEye

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any other fellow lacto enthusiasts might like this. I don't think i saw this recipe posted... so it does seem that eating this is ok. i'm going to give it a go when my next batch is done. :D

Yes lacto solutions do clean up pet urine smells, but you might have to apply full strength or a few times.

Bonny Clabber

Bonny clabber is a traditional cultured dairy food in both the Southern United States and in Scotland. In the United States, it was customarily eaten with molasses, cinnamon and nutmeg for breakfast. Bonny clabber is a wild-cultured dairy food in that it requires no starter; rather, its probiotic properties stem directly from the natural flora in the milk and in your home. In that respect, it’s similar to a wild sourdough. Preparing bonny clabber is simple: take raw whole milk (and, yes, it absolutely must be raw) and leave it on your counter until the milk solids naturally separate from the whey – developing a thick and yogurt-like consistency. You’ve made bonny clabber as simple as that.
 

3rdEye

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Just ate a few teaspoons of the top yogurt like layer after making my last batch of lac. b. That was about an hour ago. The taste was pleasant if you like cheese and yogurt combined, which i happen to. ;)

Very mild and slightly sour with the consistency of a yogurt with a high water content. I like it, but i'm being conservative this first time to see if i get food poisoning. :laughing: I'm thinking i'll be fine and this was a big leap of faith. I couldn't feed it to anything or anyone else until i see how it treats me.

Nature provides :thank you:
 

jaykush

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from what i hear, if you have a soar throat and do what you did, youll be cured.
 

3rdEye

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smoketrichs check out the instructions on the first page. ;) .... or i could tell you. Seems like shelf life can be up to a month in the fridge from reports.

Application rates vary. I'm just guessing. :D
 

jaykush

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you can apply often but i find once a week to be more than enough. sometimes every two weeks. unless your using the culture to make extracts of some kind.

if can last in the fridge for months, BUT its best used fresh within a week or so. its not hard to make or expensive so i find it easy to use it fresh.
 

SilverSurfer_OG

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I am going to start spraying my animal run today. Got 2 piglets in there as well as a few chooks and it is starting to smell a bit funky! Summer has arrived at last so be nice to have a pleasant smell in my nostrils when im feeding the hungry swine.

I have lacto b in my fridge for up to 3 months or so and it still does the job.

My piggy poo will be a good test for it. Its been there for couple months now.

Eating the lacto cheese?! You are brave lol!! :smoke:
 
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