Kyg's Outdoor Trichapalooza

[Kygiacomo!!!]

Been following your thread as a fellow gg'er down in the South Pacific. Keeps me excited for next season. Keep it up bro!

hey bro glad to have u along. im already excited for next season as well lol i got a few new strains that i been studying on that should do good in my garden. its cheese candy,swiss cheese,spoetnik #1,green crack and blue hashplant,but from the looks of things right now the jacky white and church will be earning a spot along side my awesome Delahaze. i will have to wait and see what the mold resistance is like from them before i make any final decisions.

 

[Kygiacomo!!!]

I went to plot 4 just now to feed the dela and spray them with seaweed,golden tree, protek and worm power EWC extract. I gave the dela 1tbs of regalia,1/8 tsp aloe 200x powder,2tsp of insect frass,2.5ml vitazyme,1ml of floralicious plus and 2tsp of veg+bloom dirty nutrient solution to 1 gallon jug.The dela was already looking great. It has deep forest green look to it with a nice shine. I have been super cropping it and it's bushy as hell now. I super cropped 2 more limbs on it today. That's all I will be doing to it now, so once it heals it will get to do its thing. The critical ssh is looking good as well. It had some bug damage and a few yellow leaves on the bottom. I found a snail on it to so I'm gonna have to go back in a day or 2 and figure out how I'm gonna stop these little bastards from crawling into my plants. This is first year I have ever seen these do that so I'm sure they are the cause of the leaf damage. The critical got same spray as dela did but since the cssh is in living soil it got 1tbs of bat guano,1/8tsp of aloe 200x,2 tsp of insect frass and 2.5ml of vitazyme. The first pic is the cssh and 2-3 is the dela.
i also stopped in at plot1 to spray them with same spray and noticed some brown crispy popcorn buds on the Serious 6. i cant beleive this strain is already starting to rot and hell its not even got big buds on it. im not even gonna attempt to grow this one next year. i will just trash the seeds and be done with it. i have had nothing but trouble from this strain since i sit it in its final home. i could have put another Dela in that spot as im sure it would be using the plot alot better then this piece of shit S6. this was a 90$ lesson to be learned for me. i should have just stuck with paradise,greenhouse and dinafem which is what i will be doing next year. the 2 last pics is of Serious Shit s6!

 

[Kygiacomo!!!]

what up Ic! its been hot as hell here last 2 days. i bet the ladys are loving this though. the temps today was 93F and when u factored in the humidity the news man said it felt like 105f which i do believe bc when i walked outside today it was like walking into a oven. i'll have to go water tomorrow evening if the temps stays like this. i wont let my ladys go no longer then 3 days without water in temps like this.

 

[DuskrayTroubador]

what up Ic! its been hot as hell here last 2 days. i bet the ladys are loving this though. the temps today was 93F and when u factored in the humidity the news man said it felt like 105f which i do believe bc when i walked outside today it was like walking into a oven. i'll have to go water tomorrow evening if the temps stays like this. i wont let my ladys go no longer then 3 days without water in temps like this.

It's hotter than hell's kitchen in the hills, my friend.

I think the yellowing on my plant may have been caused by thirst, they need LOTS of water in these temps and the rain has called a ceasefire.

I hate working at night. I always wear snakeboots, but snakes are much more active a night and I do reach down near the ground when I do stuff like water the plants. Gotta be able to see clearly.

I've been hauling in 5 gallons of water on my back to each plot, but even with pouring the water into holes near the plants (in order to avoid loss of water to evaporation) it isn't enough. Get yourself a high capacity hiking backpack that you can fit a 5 gallon jug into. If the fuel type of can doesn't fit, try a water cooler jug.

I'm also thinking about these two 6 gallon fuel type water jugs I have. Tall and slender. In addition to the five on my back, I might fill each of these with 2 or 3 gallons. It's a lot of fucking weight to haul though, so I might not. Also a huge liability in terms of visibility.

Just now I thought of just throwing another 2 or 3 milk jugs (or some other container type) into my pack. But we've got to haul as much water as we can in these temps. August is supposed to be hotter with less rain.

 

[Kygiacomo!!!]

It's hotter than hell's kitchen in the hills, my friend.

I think the yellowing on my plant may have been caused by thirst, they need LOTS of water in these temps and the rain has called a ceasefire.

I hate working at night. I always wear snakeboots, but snakes are much more active a night and I do reach down near the ground when I do stuff like water the plants. Gotta be able to see clearly.

I've been hauling in 5 gallons of water on my back to each plot, but even with pouring the water into holes near the plants (in order to avoid loss of water to evaporation) it isn't enough. Get yourself a high capacity hiking backpack that you can fit a 5 gallon jug into. If the fuel type of can doesn't fit, try a water cooler jug.

I'm also thinking about these two 6 gallon fuel type water jugs I have. Tall and slender. In addition to the five on my back, I might fill each of these with 2 or 3 gallons. It's a lot of fucking weight to haul though, so I might not. Also a huge liability in terms of visibility.

Just now I thought of just throwing another 2 or 3 milk jugs (or some other container type) into my pack. But we've got to haul as much water as we can in these temps. August is supposed to be hotter with less rain.

ya be careful bro. i killed a copperhead this morning. it was laying right around the base of my critical jack. i have leaves on top the soil and mulch and it blended right in. i always get freaked out when i gotta go thur tall grass to get to a few my plants. ya i got a duffel bag i can carry 5 gallons at a time if i need to but 4 of my plots has a water source located within 45 or 50 yards. the only one that dont is plot #4. its at the main top of the hill but what i have been doing is i took 3 5gallon buckets and found where water was draining off from the top of the hill and sit them up under the ledge of the hill and all are filled up now. i only got 2 plants at this plot so im hoping by time i use 15 gallons up that it will have rained and filled them back up. i done got to much money wrapped up in this years grow along with 1000s upton 1000s of online research so i cant slack now when all they need it water lol one thing i have noticed with this product called Golden Tree that im using on a test plant is that this stuff is the shit!! im gonna buy the 50$ jug now bc im loving what im seeing it do for one my Dela's. i got the 2oz sampler just bc i said yeah! right they make all these outrageous claims with this product but so far im seeing really nice results

 

[gorilla ganja]

Everything is looking great KY.Well except the S6. Too bad that strain didn't work out for you. I was surprised that you are getting mold on it tho. With all the stuff you are putting on them to prevent mold. Or did you just give up on it and are not taking preventive measures anymore?
GG

 

[Kygiacomo!!!]

Everything is looking great KY.Well except the S6. Too bad that strain didn't work out for you. I was surprised that you are getting mold on it tho. With all the stuff you are putting on them to prevent mold. Or did you just give up on it and are not taking preventive measures anymore?
GG

after i seen what it was doing i havent tried nothing to prevent it on the S6. i didnt feel it was worthy enuff to get it i dont think that plant would have yeilded no more then half oz if i was lucky..not worth the time or effort for me esp when sitting about 3 foot away is a 8 foot dela and a beautiful biddy that is flowering now and looking good...when i go back to plot 1 either tomorrow or wed for the weekly feed im yanking that bitch up and pissing on it,fuck serious seeds! lol sucks i wasted one my best holes on that shitty plant. this spot gets about 10hrs of direct sun. i know what will be going in there next year and that will be the dela,jacky and church.

 

[gorilla ganja]

oh I see. I was thinking you had some sort of super mold that was living though all the treatments.I'm really liking the looks of your church too. Refresh my memory, where did you get that one?

 

[Kygiacomo!!!]

oh I see. I was thinking you had some sort of super mold that was living though all the treatments.I'm really liking the looks of your church too. Refresh my memory, where did you get that one?

nah it would be a hell of a mold spore to live past what im gonna be throwing at them lol. the church is from greenhouse seeds. i see so many ppl talk shit about them but everthing i have ever grew from them has been awesome smoke,great growing vigor and good mold resistance. the super lemon haze is still my fav smoke of all time. all these 100$ pack strains have been nothing but trouble for me for the last couple years. last year it was holy grail kush this year serious 6. i will just be keeping it simple from here on out and buying only paradise,greenhouse,dinafem,ace and delicious. i will buy a few single seeds as testers to see what i may find but my money and insurance strains will be from paradise,greenhouse and dinafem. all i want is 5 different strains that performs as well as the delahaze does so i will have a nice variety. i will be on the hunt for the best cheese guerilla strain next year as well.

 

[NewAgeGenetics]

dont you want to grow from clones instead of seeds?

thats a different world... not easier but if you learn, thats the better way to produce.

 

[Robrites]

Seeds For Me

Seeds For Me

dont you want to grow from clones instead of seeds?

thats a different world... not easier but if you learn, thats the better way to produce.

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I do clone if I want to save a strain I don't have seeds for.

 

[NewAgeGenetics]

My experience is that seeds plants have more vigor and grow better plants.[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]View Image[/FONT]

I do clone if I want to save a strain I don't have seeds for.

your experience is false.

 

[DuskrayTroubador]

your experience is false.

It all depends. His experience of seed plants being more vigorous is not his experience alone; it has been echoed by many here. It is especially useful to use seeds if you wish to get an earlier start outdoors (when clones would begin flowering due to too short of daylight).

I don't use clones to grow outdoors. If I grew indoors, I would use them to speed up the process and make my cycles shorter.

The only situation in which I could see clones being better for outdoors is if the clones were taken from a freak-of-nature or otherwise advantageous phenotype of a strain. For example: if someone orders 10 seeds for KC33 and one of those plants has either a different high or finishes a couple weeks sooner than the rest, one may wish to take clones so that they have that phenotype of KC33 that finishes two weeks early.

An old grower on here (who was primarily a seed grower) stumbled upon a Maple Leaf Indica that was a 1/whatever genetic freak-of-nature that didn't produce resin normally, instead it just produced it everywhere. All of the stalk, stems, everywhere. He kept clones of this phenotype so he could grow it every year.

Aside from that, many growers find that seeds are more vigorous than clones. Not sure why, but I suspect it has something to do with the mother growing accustomed to being a pussy in a cozy, indoor setup without a worry in the world and adapts accordingly (whether we see it or not) and then it's clones obviously are pussies expecting to grow in a cozy indoor setup. Seed starts on the other hand, get a rude awakening and, when started outside, are thrown into the gauntlet right away and have to be some bad motherfuckers.

That's just my common sense, folk-science explanation. But do know that MANY growers have empirically found seed starts to be much more vigorous outdoors than clones.

 

[Kygiacomo!!!]

dont you want to grow from clones instead of seeds?

thats a different world... not easier but if you learn, thats the better way to produce.

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[Kygiacomo!!!]

dont you want to grow from clones instead of seeds?

thats a different world... not easier but if you learn, thats the better way to produce.

i cant get clones here in eastern ky,plus i will not take the risk of growing indoors to keep clones with a women and a kid here at the house. im stictly a seeder

It all depends. His experience of seed plants being more vigorous is not his experience alone; it has been echoed by many here. It is especially useful to use seeds if you wish to get an earlier start outdoors (when clones would begin flowering due to too short of daylight).

I don't use clones to grow outdoors. If I grew indoors, I would use them to speed up the process and make my cycles shorter.

The only situation in which I could see clones being better for outdoors is if the clones were taken from a freak-of-nature or otherwise advantageous phenotype of a strain. For example: if someone orders 10 seeds for KC33 and one of those plants has either a different high or finishes a couple weeks sooner than the rest, one may wish to take clones so that they have that phenotype of KC33 that finishes two weeks early.

An old grower on here (who was primarily a seed grower) stumbled upon a Maple Leaf Indica that was a 1/whatever genetic freak-of-nature that didn't produce resin normally, instead it just produced it everywhere. All of the stalk, stems, everywhere. He kept clones of this phenotype so he could grow it every year.

Aside from that, many growers find that seeds are more vigorous than clones. Not sure why, but I suspect it has something to do with the mother growing accustomed to being a pussy in a cozy, indoor setup without a worry in the world and adapts accordingly (whether we see it or not) and then it's clones obviously are pussies expecting to grow in a cozy indoor setup. Seed starts on the other hand, get a rude awakening and, when started outside, are thrown into the gauntlet right away and have to be some bad motherfuckers.

That's just my common sense, folk-science explanation. But do know that MANY growers have empirically found seed starts to be much more vigorous outdoors than clones.

well said bro! i will never pick another pussy ass indoor strain to try and grow outdoors. last year i choose holy grail kush and damn what a weak ass pussy strain that was. everthing that could go wrong with that strain did. it got bacterial leaf spot first then as time went on what little small buds it did try and grow on it just got mold when they was still very small and open not even compacted. u could walk by that strain and the breeze just made it look sad lol

 

[who dat is]

What about making your own seeds? Next year you could take some males that pop, grow them out separately in their own 5 gallon buckets secluded off somewhere far enough away that they won't pollinate the ladies. You could then gather the pollen of the males that you like the most and are doing the best for your environment and start to make your own Kentucky landrace. That way you could select the best crosses for your situation, hardier against bugs and disease, etc.

 

[NewAgeGenetics]

i cant get clones here in eastern ky,plus i will not take the risk of growing indoors to keep clones with a women and a kid here at the house. im stictly a seeder

so this is why seeds are better than clones.

 

[DuskrayTroubador]

so this is why seeds are better than clones.

No, this is why seeds are just as good of an option and possibly better depending on one's own unique situation:

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=300298

His gardens kick ass, and he only uses seeds now. His reason is because they had issues with clones flowering early before, and he didn't want to have to use supplemental lighting.

There's also much the high potential for variety among seeds. For these reasons (as well as the things I mentioned in my last post), seeds are better for use due to our unique circumstances, and we are far from being the only ones.

Clones might be better for you or some other people. People with shit dialed in for large, legal farms probably like the predictability and uniformness of clones. Regardless of which is better for any individual, nobody likes an ICmag pissing contest.

 

[Kygiacomo!!!]

What about making your own seeds? Next year you could take some males that pop, grow them out separately in their own 5 gallon buckets secluded off somewhere far enough away that they won't pollinate the ladies. You could then gather the pollen of the males that you like the most and are doing the best for your environment and start to make your own Kentucky landrace. That way you could select the best crosses for your situation, hardier against bugs and disease, etc.

hey WDI i have thought about making my own,but i not to comfortable with trying to breed anything. i figured i would leave that up to the pros lol

so this is why seeds are better than clones.

did i say seeds are better then clones? seeds are alot more convenient for me and my situation,if my state ever goes legal then i wont mind at all to have clones to run but until then i will do what i have been doing for years and growing seeds.

 

[Kygiacomo!!!]

No, this is why seeds are just as good of an option and possibly better depending on one's own unique situation:

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=300298

His gardens kick ass, and he only uses seeds now. His reason is because they had issues with clones flowering early before, and he didn't want to have to use supplemental lighting.

There's also much the high potential for variety among seeds. For these reasons (as well as the things I mentioned in my last post), seeds are better for use due to our unique circumstances, and we are far from being the only ones.

Clones might be better for you or some other people. People with shit dialed in for large, legal farms probably like the predictability and uniformness of clones. Regardless of which is better for any individual, nobody likes an ICmag pissing contest.

awesome thread and post! shcrews is a beast of a grower. i love reading his journals. i learn alot off the guy just from reading how he does things.