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Kyg's Outdoor Trichapalooza

Kygiacomo!!!

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Here is the booklet that i got with this 8oz bottle of vitazyme. i will give a fair and honest review of this stuff and if it works as it says. i have did some research before i found this product on brassinosteriod and i was pretty pleased with it what i had read from university studies on the compound. i also posted in nutrients and fertilizer thread a few months back that i thought the active ingredient in Canna Boost was brassino/chitosan bc of the research i had did and also the description of what canna boost claims is identical imo. anyways here is the booklet that come with this stuff.
 

The English Cut

Well-known member
oops, wrong pic.

oops, wrong pic.

Silly me, that pic was the Bangi Haze clone! The plants all look the same on these tiny preview thumbnail things. Still, at least you got a look at what you can expect next year when you get your Bangi fems!

Here's the real deal Rotten Panda from a week ago, caged for my own protection. She's a little smaller but still as pretty imo.
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Kygiacomo!!!

AppAlachiAn OutLaW
Silly me, that pic was the Bangi Haze clone! The plants all look the same on these tiny preview thumbnail things. Still, at least you got a look at what you can expect next year when you get your Bangi fems!

Here's the real deal Rotten Panda from a week ago, caged for my own protection. She's a little smaller but still as pretty imo.
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hell mate they both look the same really. i will be growing both these bad bitches yummm i look forward to it. i cant wait to see the buds on both these strains..they look super healthy as well! nice job so far :tiphat:
 

gorilla ganja

Well-known member
Hey Ky, plants are looking nice. I'm liking the pic's of the fim technique. I'm thinking of trying it out. I was going to let them grow out naturally, but thinking of topping a few or fim.
 

Kygiacomo!!!

AppAlachiAn OutLaW
Hey Icmaggers! I just got back from the organic plot and things are looking fkn awesome here. I'm really impressed with this living soil so far. As far as nutes go I haven't gave anything except just water bc the mix already had everything in the soil. I have some earthworm castings that i will do a top dress with about middle of June and then again right before flowering starts with EWC, alfalfa meal and bat guano so they will coast on thur flowering with no issues. The dela is looking so damn good now. She is loving this soil mix, the first 2 pics is of the dela,3rd & 4th pic is the jackey. This is gonna be a wide bush if she keeps branching how she is now..the last pic is of the blueberry headband but i didnt get as good a pic as i wanted with it bc i heard a Helio in the distance but it wasnt LEO it was to high up and moving to fast so i calmed down lol.. What is ur guys topdressings do u all do before flower? do u all think the Ewc,bat guano and alfalfa will be fine or do u think i should just buy 4 gallons of living soil from buildasoil to top dress with? here is the living soil mix,its a bit different now then it was when i first bought BAS living soil to do this plot in.

1/2 Part Worm Power

1/2 Part Oly Mountain Fish Compost

1 Part Sphagnum Peat Moss

2/3 Part Pumice

1/3 Part Rice Hulls

Now with 5% Pre-Charged Colorado Bio Char!!

Nutrients included in the soil:
Acadian Kelp Meal @ 1/2 Cup per cubic foot

Neem Cake @ 1/2 cup per cubic foot

Crustacean Meal @ 1/2 cup per cubic foot

Brix Blend Basalt @ 2 Cups Per Cubic Foot

Gypsum Dust @ 1 Cup Per Cubic Foot

Oyster Flour @ 1 Cup Per Cubic Foot
 

The English Cut

Well-known member
Plants looking very healthy, that second plant is going to be superb as long as you make sure to thin out those lower inner bits once flowering starts to keep the air moving nicely in there.

Regarding the topdressing - isn't alfalfa too heavy in N?. Some kelp meal be cool, comfrey. In fact, I just looked and BAS do a flowering topdress kit:

The Build-A-Flower Top Dress kit is a well rounded and complete approach to flowering. With one top dress you effectively add all the nutrients and micro-nutrients required for a healthy soil. The Compost and Worm castings act as a delivery system for the nutrients in the Comfrey and Kelp. We add a very small amount of Neem Cake to assist with pest control. Fish bone is an excellent source of organic phosphorous and calcium.

In the Kit:
Worm Castings 50%

Compost 50%

Comfrey Leaf (Home Grown By Jeremy Silva)

Kelp Meal

Neem Cake (Just Enough for some pest control)

Fish Bone Meal

Gypsum


Looks good to me.... in any case I wouldn't topdress with their living soil mix, too much bulk (ie Peat and aeration) that you don't need on top of the soil. If you don't need it, why haul it?
 

Kygiacomo!!!

AppAlachiAn OutLaW
Oh ya i also forgot to add that i added 1/2 tsp of Vitazyme to the 1 gallon of water today at the organic plot to see what the fuss is all about with it and to see if the big bold claims do what it says. i also added it to my incredible bulk,heribei and green poison but i didnt take pics of the 3 single plot plants. im also gonna to plot#5 this evening which has 2 dela and 2 church. im gonna take pics today when i apply the vitazyme to 1 dela and 1 church and compare the pics in 7 days and see if the plants have made progress
 

Kygiacomo!!!

AppAlachiAn OutLaW
Plants looking very healthy, that second plant is going to be superb as long as you make sure to thin out those lower inner bits once flowering starts to keep the air moving nicely in there.

Regarding the topdressing - isn't alfalfa too heavy in N?. Some kelp meal be cool, comfrey. In fact, I just looked and BAS do a flowering topdress kit:

The Build-A-Flower Top Dress kit is a well rounded and complete approach to flowering. With one top dress you effectively add all the nutrients and micro-nutrients required for a healthy soil. The Compost and Worm castings act as a delivery system for the nutrients in the Comfrey and Kelp. We add a very small amount of Neem Cake to assist with pest control. Fish bone is an excellent source of organic phosphorous and calcium.

In the Kit:
Worm Castings 50%

Compost 50%

Comfrey Leaf (Home Grown By Jeremy Silva)

Kelp Meal

Neem Cake (Just Enough for some pest control)

Fish Bone Meal

Gypsum


Looks good to me.... in any case I wouldn't topdress with their living soil mix, too much bulk (ie Peat and aeration) that you don't need on top of the soil. If you don't need it, why haul it?

i contacted BAS about that flower topdress but the only issue is i will have my cages off by then and i cant put fish bone meal there bc critters will dig it up. i contacted them and asked to replace the fish bone meal with alfalfa meal so im waiting for a email response. i dont think alfalfa is to heavy in N. i found this on alfalfa meal which shows what all is in it. i think the plants need nitrogen in flower. the 2 things i think they need most is N and K. i could be wrong though. idk if i will need it to be honest but ever thing i have read a few things from other organic growers that said they never make it past week 4 of flower without a top dress of something. i will see what Bas says about it. the dela and jacky wont be done till mid to end of oct so i wasnt to sure if 8 gallons of the living soil would be enuff to last them. im a newbie to organic growing so idk honestly lol

* Triacontanol (growth stimulant)
* Vitamin A (high concentration)
* Thiamine
* Riboflavin
* Pantothenic Acid
* Niacin
* Pyridoxine
* Choline
* Bentaine
* Folic Acid
* co-enzymes
* Crude proteins (16 - 25% in dry alfalfa)

Amino acids (% in alfalfa meal).

* Tryptophan, 0.3 %
* Aspartic Acid, 2.3%
* Threonine, 1.0 %
* Serine, 1.0%
* Glutamic Acid, 2.7%
* Proline, 1.2%
* Glycine, 1.1%
* Alanine, 1.1%
* Cystine, 0.2%
* Valine, 1.0%
* Methionine, 0.3%
* Isoleucine, 0.8%
* Leucine, 1.6%
* Tyrosine, 0.5%
* Phenylalanine, 1.0%
* Histidine, 0.4%
* Lysine, Total, 1.1%
* Arginine, 1.1%

Minerals (contained in dry alfalfa)

* Nitrogen 3.75-5.5 %
* Potassium .75 - 3.5 %
* Phosphorus .3 - .7%
* Calcium 1 - 2 %
* Magnesium .30 - 1 %
* Sulphur .2 - .5 %
* Manganese 30-200 ppm
* Iron 20-250 ppm
* Boron 20-80 ppm
* Copper 5-20 ppm
* Zinc 20-70 ppm
 

Kygiacomo!!!

AppAlachiAn OutLaW
Hey Ky, plants are looking nice. I'm liking the pic's of the fim technique. I'm thinking of trying it out. I was going to let them grow out naturally, but thinking of topping a few or fim.

Yea bro do both that way u can see which one u like best. I love the FIM now bc it makes the plants a lot bushier but topping makes 2 fat donkey dick colas as well lol I'm gonna have to tie the limbs out on the jacky white so the 2 middle colas will be able to catch the other two. I thought about super cropping the 2 taller shoots but I just can't make myself do it bc of how sexy they look right now lol
 

Kygiacomo!!!

AppAlachiAn OutLaW
I just got back from Walmart and picked this up on the way out the door. Idk what it is but evertime I go to Walmart or lowes I head straight to the garden center LOL! They have a bunch of fiskar pruners that I want to get. I been working with ole dollar general 3$ and 8$ pruners time to get some good shit. They have the trimmers as well that I am gonna buy for summer is out to trim my dank with. I'm gonna mix this stuff in with my neem and Karanja mix once a week and see how it does. That way I will have a contact killer along with neems slow death!!


 

DuskrayTroubador

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Veteran
Is there a concern about height of the plants, or are you fiming and topping for yield?

I can't decide whether or not to FIM plants. Special Queen is a tall, stretchy strain and, in my experience, Green Poison is a little shorter but bushier. My go-to method is supercropping, the thought being that it is the least stress to the plant (and easiest to recover from) while also not affecting height too much, it does encourage side growth and creates that nutrient knuckle.

I think I might be missing something though. Perhaps I will FIM the 4 plants I have doubled up and they can grow into one bush (hopefully without molding).
 

Kygiacomo!!!

AppAlachiAn OutLaW
Is there a concern about height of the plants, or are you fiming and topping for yield?

I can't decide whether or not to FIM plants. Special Queen is a tall, stretchy strain and, in my experience, Green Poison is a little shorter but bushier. My go-to method is supercropping, the thought being that it is the least stress to the plant (and easiest to recover from) while also not affecting height too much, it does encourage side growth and creates that nutrient knuckle.

I think I might be missing something though. Perhaps I will FIM the 4 plants I have doubled up and they can grow into one bush (hopefully without molding).

i was just trying out Fim bc i have always topped for bigger yeild. i really like the Fim now though. ya top a few and Fim a few which is eactly what i did this year. so as of right now the Fim looks to produce alot bushier. Ya bro thats a good ideal make one big ass round bush out those. i think as long as u keep the middle open for air to get in there and with ur strain choice u shouldnt have no mold. Are u using protekt to make the stems alot thicker which aids in mold defense. i can tell that its making my stems pretty thick right now. the plants are nice and sturdy and dont even need staking yet for me. i accidently super cropped a plant last year when i tripped on the cage and it bend the plant like supercropping it. it had that big knuckle on it like u say. i thought about doing it to the jacky white since its already bushy now so the 2 shoots in the middle can catch up but for some reason i just cant do it lol it looks to good for me to break it over,even though i know it would correct its self in a few days time. next time i go back to the organic plot i will see if those middle shoots have caught up to the 2 main side shoots and if they havent i will bend the stem till it gently flops over
 
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Kygiacomo!!!

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I just got back from plot#5 and things are looking sweet. The leafhopper damage has stopped now since I upped the dose. The new growth is nice and green. Last week I added 1/2 cup of azomite to the soil there and I'm definitely seeing some advantages from it. I also gave sprayed the plants down with pyrethrins and Karanja oil to keep the insects off. I'm really impressed with 1 of the church at this plot. It's up to my chin now which is right at 5 foot tall. Last week it was only up to my chest,so it's grew a good 6-7 inches. The Dela's are also starting to take off. I added 1/2tsp of vitazyme,1tsp of maxi gro,and 2.5ml of protekt all..the only plant that didnt get the Vitazyme was 1 of my Dela so I can see if this stuff does what it says and i can compare it to the other Dela.. Anyways here is the pics,first pic is of my biggest plant at all my plots right now the church. U can see new growth that is nice and green. The second pic is of Dela#1. This dela didn't get the vitazyme. Third pic is Dela#2 and fourth is of the smaller church. I also stopped by my single plant critical jack. It's doing very well to and i love the dark green color on it in the 5th pic. That's it for today fellas the temps here are in the mid 90s today with 100% humidity. I will be staying indoors rest the day. It's a great day to be a cannabis plant in veg though with these temps lol

 

Kygiacomo!!!

AppAlachiAn OutLaW
hey guys i was in my backyard just now and i was gonna burn some box's that i have been piling up there for a couple weeks and when i moved the boxes on the ground i found these little small worms. are these earthworms that make the earthworm castings? they are really little and slither like a snake. i caught about 5 of them and im gonna take them to my organic plot this evening so they can get to work on the stuff that i have in my living soil mix if that is indeed what they are.
 
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gorilla ganja

Well-known member
hey guys i was in my backyard just now and i was gonna burn some box's that i have been piling up there for a couple weeks and when i moved the boxes on the ground i found these little small worms. are these earthworms that make the earthworm castings? they are really little and slither like a snake. i caught about 5 of them and im gonna take them to my organic plot this evening so they can get to work on the stuff that i have in my living soil mix if that is indeed what they are. [URL=https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=60741&pictureid=1453406&thumb=1]View Image[/url]
There are several types of earth worms all of which make castings that are good for plants.
 

Kygiacomo!!!

AppAlachiAn OutLaW
Hmmmm. Maybe I should order some protekt. Cheap, and it can't hurt I suppose.

ya bro thats what i use to emulsify the neem and karanja oil with. it works great for that and at the same time it makes ur stems thick as fuck! hell 1 quart will last u the whole grow easy bc all u use to 2.5ml to 5ml depending on how much neem/karanja u mix up at time.
 

Kygiacomo!!!

AppAlachiAn OutLaW
There are several types of earth worms all of which make castings that are good for plants.

i did a bit of research on it after i posted this and yep i was reading that when they come to ur soil that means ur soil is healthy and its a good thing. thanks brother
 

Bradley_Danks

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Veteran
i did a bit of research on it after i posted this and yep i was reading that when they come to ur soil that means ur soil is healthy and its a good thing. thanks brother

Yeah buddy. Check out lasagna composting online. Brings lots of worms into your patch throughout the year :)
 

Kygiacomo!!!

AppAlachiAn OutLaW
Yeah buddy. Check out lasagna composting online. Brings lots of worms into your patch throughout the year :)

sweet thanks bro! when i head back to the organic plot im gonna check and see if they are still there in the hole with my plants lol this is all new to me and very exciting. i do know one thing for a 100% as of right now the stems and stalks on the living soil plants are 2-3 times bigger then the ones that isnt in this mix and the branching is insane so far. if everthing keeps running this smooth i will be investing some my harvest money this year to convert all my plots into living soil plots:biggrin:
 
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