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KC Brains & the Quest for Mothers

oldbean

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KC36 Male... This picture was taken the day I noticed he was a male, he lived a few more days but ended up being stripped for cuttings and placed back in veg.

*pics removed for privacy reasons*
 
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waveguide

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What difference does it ultimately make, in your expereince and study, to utilize a variety of methods to help the seed(s) germinate? For instance, what ratios would you compare it to (or however else you would represent your data)?

:tiphat: no objectivity, i'm just doing the scuzzy "repeat information i heard on the internet" thing :tiphat:

my grows (and most ppl struggling with germ) are too small for meaningful statistics, and i have never personally experienced the "difference" between "outdoor" and "indoor" genetics (i experience "germs" and "doesn't germ"), it's only a discretisation to me formed by peoples' reports online.. do i believe a species can be coddled towards domesticated weakness? sure, plenty of evidence for that in the world.

whether it is factual is one thing. it seems to be meaningful to many people, so if this is the terms people think in (eg. "i have an indoor seed, it will germ fast with prep" versus "i have an outdoor seed, i just put it in the soil and it sprouts in a few days), i figure it's still meaningful to work within those delineations... :p

eg. delta-9 mekong haze seeds were famously difficult to germ, and it was often touted that it was because these are "outdoor genetics" that take longer and need particular stratification.. that's where ppl were doing the ice water thing..

..if i had a more meaningful model to explain the discrepancy, i'd use it! :) brains strains are the great attractor of these kinds of statements.. my methodology is really, consider much, try your best.. if you get a chance to pop a couple dozen at once, i'm sure you'll see scarification is likely to result in faster germ by a day or so, so it will continue to provide amusement for people who want to get involved with the process :)

the nursery i did seed prep for.. well, we're talking about a "concerned industrialist," so they'd want to be domineering about the germ process because it's in the nature of industrialists to try and nail shit down. many of the tree and shrub species germinated would probably have attained similar germ % with the natural process and a few weeks extra production time (as they were mostly local species) but heck we're white people, we need to buy some extra sulphuric acid and shit so it's all badass. heh.
 
KC36 Male... This picture was taken the day I noticed he was a male, he lived a few more days but ended up being stripped for cuttings and placed back in veg.
He's a cute little guy!
How are the females? I'm most curious about the yield + THC content on KC 36, since KC doens't provide any objective data with his descriptions -- just says generic phrases about them.

Anyone chime in on KC's smoke + yield, in general?



but heck we're white people, we need to buy some extra sulphuric acid and shit so it's all badass. heh.
Of course -- Americans go big or go home!
 

oldbean

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He's a cute little guy!
How are the females? I'm most curious about the yield + THC content on KC 36, since KC doens't provide any objective data with his descriptions -- just says generic phrases about them.

High

He is indeed, first male I've actually felt I've had to keep. The one known female is doing good, I shall update with a picture later today so you can see.

I too am curious about this KC strain, I bought this pack of seeds about 5yrs ago & the main reason was that, at the time, I had researched cash crop strains and KC36 was a secret strain in that regards..

Keep it green, peace

Edit- in regards to THC content..... I think that no matter what the seeds mother plant was tested at initially its just a rough guideline, i mean..the variance in genetics expressed to the unique environment that it grows in when that seed is grown is far to susceptible to the skills of the grower.

Ultimately, we need to be doing this as an online community & posting the results:
http://www.alpha-cat.org/

I have only ever grown & smoked one KC strain in the past & that was Leda Uno, I didn't find it very potent but that was made up for in yield & taste. I found a black pheno which I wish I had kept now.
 
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Buddle

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Glad to hear you like KC's stuff!
Why would you dunk them in water and scar them? I don't think many seeds would experience that (or need to) in order to sprout in nature. Just some fluffy, warm, moist dirt should do the trick!

Some beans are a lot harder shelled than others. As she said her first batch didn't germ..so scarcified the 2nd batch in hopes of aiding them..Its not an unusual practice at all.
 
I too am curious about this KC strain, I bought this pack of seeds about 5yrs ago & the main reason was that, at the time, I had researched cash crop strains and KC36 was a secret strain in that regards..
:woohoo:


Edit- in regards to THC content..... I think that no matter what the seeds mother plant was tested at initially its just a rough guideline, i mean..the variance in genetics expressed to the unique environment that it grows in when that seed is grown is far to susceptible to the skills of the grower.

Ultimately, we need to be doing this as an online community & posting the results:
http://www.alpha-cat.org/
Good point about grower skills. But in terms of genetics, the seeds will exhibit traits that previous generations also exhibited, obviously.

I think that, as the cannabis industry in the USA matures, testing levels of THC will become more and more commonplace for dispensaries and full-time growers. I'm not sure how prevalent it'd become for recreational growers like us. You never know though.


I have only ever grown & smoked one KC strain in the past & that was Leda Uno, I didn't find it very potent but that was made up for in yield & taste. I found a black pheno which I wish I had kept now.
Black?? Too bad not potent :-/

Some beans are a lot harder shelled than others. As she said her first batch didn't germ..so scarcified the 2nd batch in hopes of aiding them..Its not an unusual practice at all.
This is a curious concept. I wonder how many studies have been conducted in the name of testing "shell hardness and/or thickness" in cannabis seeds.
 

BigNoise

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Final report:

Chopped the last two KC's yesterday, both Mangoes. The 33's were chopped a few days prior. I can absolutely give 33 and Mango the rainy climate seal of approval. The four plants I had in my main garden had almost no mold or rot...well under 1% I would say. This is after about 8 inches of rain since they started flowering, as well as a couple heavy wind storms. They got banged up, a few branches snapped, but nothing terrible. November finish? No problem it seems!

It seems both 33 and Mango have at least two color phenos. An mostly green 33, and one with a good bit of purple. The Mango had one mostly green, and a more purple one that was almost entirely purple/dark green leaves and flowers, with bright green branches. Really cool coloring.

I had a couple plants in a little backup garden, stashed in the brush, planted in kiddy pools. Those plants got quite a bit of mold and rot. The combination of less sun, less breeze, and less soil (? just guessing) left them with around a third lost to rot.

Overall, pretty stoked on the KC. Was worried because of this late finish, but the hardiness and sativa (fluffy, open buds) structure kept them healthy through he rain. They got a little pollen from a mystery father, but I only had good shit in the garden, so regardless, I should have some nice surprises next year when I pop those seeds.
 
Final report:

Chopped the last two KC's yesterday, both Mangoes. The 33's were chopped a few days prior. I can absolutely give 33 and Mango the rainy climate seal of approval. The four plants I had in my main garden had almost no mold or rot...well under 1% I would say. This is after about 8 inches of rain since they started flowering, as well as a couple heavy wind storms. They got banged up, a few branches snapped, but nothing terrible. November finish? No problem it seems!

It seems both 33 and Mango have at least two color phenos. An mostly green 33, and one with a good bit of purple. The Mango had one mostly green, and a more purple one that was almost entirely purple/dark green leaves and flowers, with bright green branches. Really cool coloring.

I had a couple plants in a little backup garden, stashed in the brush, planted in kiddy pools. Those plants got quite a bit of mold and rot. The combination of less sun, less breeze, and less soil (? just guessing) left them with around a third lost to rot.

Overall, pretty stoked on the KC. Was worried because of this late finish, but the hardiness and sativa (fluffy, open buds) structure kept them healthy through he rain. They got a little pollen from a mystery father, but I only had good shit in the garden, so regardless, I should have some nice surprises next year when I pop those seeds.

Awseome! Thanks for the update! you going to get some pics going??
 
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