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[Jurnal] Amnesia & OG KUSH autoflower INDOOR

sabahnur

Member
Ii fac poze și celeilalte, ramai pe faza te rog

Edit: nu mai e nevoie de poza. Era mascul...

Din 7 am rămas cu 5. Sper ca să nu mai ma trezesc cu surprize
 

jtm

Some kind of shaman
Veteran
Pai e foarte bine. Parca nu am vazut sa fie feminizate in descrierea ta initiala.

Deci, cand te apuci de tinctura?
 

sabahnur

Member
Pe site zice feminizate.

Nush ce e aia tinctura... Diseară arunc toate frunzele la gunoi. Sunt într-un sac menajer acum

Edit: tinctura = Medicament obținut prin dizolvarea în alcool sau în eter a elementelor active dintr-o plantă, dintr-un produs chimic etc.

Wtf man ma pui sa fac legale? :))
 

jtm

Some kind of shaman
Veteran
Nu. Ilegale :)

Usuci toate frunzele pe un prosop, ceva pe dulap, dupa aia le decarboxilezi, in cuptor, 20-30min la 120C, dupa aia le cantaresti, si le amesteci cu de 5 ori mai mult alcool de 96. Incepand de a doua zi, daca macini planta inainte, poti incepe un sampling la tinctura.

Psihoactivitatea poate fi si dubla fata de aceeasi planta fumata, de la caz la caz poate chiar mai mult, depinde, e subiectiv.

Da' sa nu stii ce e aia tinctura? Ca sa nu mai zic de canaghee/butter...
 

sabahnur

Member
Nu. Ilegale :)

Usuci toate frunzele pe un prosop, ceva pe dulap, dupa aia le decarboxilezi, in cuptor, 20-30min la 120C, dupa aia le cantaresti, si le amesteci cu de 5 ori mai mult alcool de 96. Incepand de a doua zi, daca macini planta inainte, poti incepe un sampling la tinctura.

Psihoactivitatea poate fi si dubla fata de aceeasi planta fumata, de la caz la caz poate chiar mai mult, depinde, e subiectiv.

Da' sa nu stii ce e aia tinctura? Ca sa nu mai zic de canaghee/butter...

Mersi de info man. Dar...
1) alcoolul dublu rafinat e 35 de lei litru
2) prea multa bătaie de cap
3) de ce as face asta?

Nu e tot aia sa beau o sticla de votca? :))
 

jtm

Some kind of shaman
Veteran
Nu, nu e tot aia, dar o sa afli numai daca o faci. La o adica, de ce nu bei mai multe sticle de votca, in loc sa fumezi iarba? Si vorbim de alcool de 96.
Sau cannabutter. Le fierbi/prajesti in unt 15 minute, maxim 20, ca sa nu stai 5 ore sa faci cannabutter, ca ie greu tare....
Cu bataia de cap, tu stii...
 

exploziv

pure dynamite
Administrator
Veteran
Mai bine faci un canaghee, untul ii doar 2 euro batonul..
Ce 15 min ma jtm, in primele 2 ore nici nu e total inmuiat materialul. Extragi doar ce e la suprafata. Eu as zice de la 4 ore in sus, altfel nu merita nici sa speli vasele de grasime dupa..
 

jtm

Some kind of shaman
Veteran
Hai ca am precizat clar, in aceeasi fraza:

1. Le prajesti 15-20 minute in unt. La prajit untul, dupa ce se evapora apa, atentie, temperatura este mai mare de 120C sau pe acolo. Deci hai, poate 30, dar eu nu am tinut mai mult de 15 minute niciodata, insa asta nu inseamna ca e bine. Asadar canaghee prin prajire, timp scurt, control mai prost al temperaturi.

2. 5 ore sa faci cannabutter (sau daca il faci ghee intai, ceea ce nu intereseaza pe multi, atunci canaghee) prin fierbere. Timp lung, control de temperatura mai bun.

Deci... esti prajit explo...
 

exploziv

pure dynamite
Administrator
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Ma jur ca inca zice de 15 min acel post. In fine, poate inteleg restul baietilor mai bine. Nu m-ar mira sa incerce cineva extractie in 15 minute, oricum. E ca si cum ai avea vrea 3 intakeuri deschise.. :)
 

jtm

Some kind of shaman
Veteran
Aaaaaa, am inteles de unde confuzia.

Pai hai sa ne intelegem: prajirea in unt este acelasi lucru cu fierberea in unt. Prajirea este un fenomen de fierbere, la temperatura de fierbere a grasimilor din unt. De aia am spus fierbere/prajire. Asta e metoda indiana. Durata, 15-30minute, tipic 20.

Tu ai confundat cu fierberea in apa cu unt adaugat in ea, procedeul clasic de cannabutter. Asta e metoda occidentala. Durata 5 ore.
 

exploziv

pure dynamite
Administrator
Veteran
Si tu crezi ca in 15 minute extragi ceva comparabil cu alea 5 ore? Oricum apa nu e obligatorie, e doar un buffer.
 

jtm

Some kind of shaman
Veteran
De cand tot o vorbesc io pe asta cu prajitul in unt, nu ai fost curios sa faci o prajeala? Hai, nu 15 minute, uite, las de la mine, 30 minute... Mai ales daca e macinata, ceea ce se petrece de obicei.

Clar ca la metoda ailalta apa e un buffer, ai practic un termostat acolo. Insa esti limitat de temperatura la 100C, si de aia e extractia atat de lunga, ca e decarboxilarea lunga. Is curios daca a incercat cineva intr-o oala sub presiune sa faca gluma asta...

Gata, am gasit, s-a facut:

"Hey stoners!
So, I have been playing with improving my lecithin butter recipe for the last few years and have managed to really break some ground. My sun-oven-butter has be he most potent, kindest shit imaginable. An on the New-Age side, its fucking SUN Extracted, talk about Aztec sun-swallowing, that shit's gotta be good for you.

I feel a obligation to share this. It could really help people that need medicine and don't have enough herb or cash to pay for all their edibles.

I heard stories when I was in college of legendary pressure-cooker cookies from a Mendo-born friend.
And the more I read, the more peoples advice seemed to by typical he-said she-said bullshit like I see in beer-making. No one has the fucking balls to try for themselves to understand a point/flaw. I read that once the herbal oils have bonded to the oil of choice and the water, that their evaporation point changes, as well as who fucking cares if its sealed in a mason jar right? It will re-condense.

Ok. it works. Really well. Just as strong as the Sun butter. But in 20 minutes instead of 2-3 days. And just like the sun-butter, if you don't mess up, NO SMELL (comparatively to your neighbors house smelling like a skunks asshole). The three most important factors in producing a strong butter are: Lecithin, Vita-Mixer, and COCOA BUTTER. It's hard, it can hold all the oil you want, it has a long shelf life.

With this recipe I can make a chocolate bar with 32 knock-you-on-your-ass doses (each is 2 grams of chocolate). Made with 4 grams of fresh herb, matched with equal weight ABV (seems to add more of a nice body high-muscle relaxing). This is FUCKING EFFICIENT. So efficient that you could justify using only single source top shelf flowers and not be disappointed. But Id rather vape them first.. hahahah, or at least half.

So, for every 4 grams of decent flowers, match equal weight with ABV.
Before combining the ABV with the flowers, decarb em. I use a mason jar sealed in the toaster oven at 210 for 10 minutes or more. This part really varies from person to person. Some people say barely toast it, some say make it brown. Personally I think that might be batshit, someone explain to me how the THC and CBD don't get activated being blasted in a fucking pressure cooker?

Once the herb is "decarbed", mix it with the ABV and dump it into your vita-mixer (or other extremely high powered blender). Take a Quart mason-jar, fill it 1/2 way up with water, dump that in the blender with your herb. Add .5 grams lecithin per 1 gram of FRESH herb. Blend that shit into green smoothie.

Pour the smoothie back into the mason jar and add 4.5 Grams Cocoa Butter per 1 gram of FRESH herb (not ABV)

Close the lid on the mason jar and pressure cook it in a water bath for 20 minutes. Allow it to cool naturally.

Once just warm, open the jar and pour out the contents through a organic cotton bag, or very fine cheesecloth. This is actually where you can really fuck up. You have to be really patient, most of the oil is stuck in the herb. A potato ricer can be a brilliant way to really give it a proper squeeze. Sadly you wont know what you recovered until its too late, but usually I get all my cocoa butter back.

Put this liquid into the fridge for a few hours, and either the cocoa butter will be rock solid (yaaaay) or sometimes it ends up a slurry (booo). Rock solid is ready to go, slurry, sieve it out and put it in glass in front of a fan. It will harden up in a day maximum.

Ok, now you have some serious fucking potent cocoa butter. You can do whatever you want with it, hot chocolate, cookies, muscle rub, or ... CHOCOLATE!

[...]"


copirait: SnidelyWhiplash
 

sabahnur

Member
Ma frate mai am o problemuță.
Una dintre fete a crescut enorm. A depășit becu :(

Nu am posibilitatea sa fac acum scrog. (lipsa de fonduri). Ii pot face ceva sa o mai micșorez pe girafa?
 

exploziv

pure dynamite
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Veteran
Buna asta cu lipsa de fonduri pt scrog. Ala se (poate) face din resturi de materiale. Si oricum nu se face dupa ce planta a trecut de bec, ci inainte sa treaca de 1/3 din inaltimea dintre ghiveci si bec. Acusi ai putea sa faci doar lst sau supercropping. Numai ca e posibil sa ii dauneze plantei, mai ales daca ai auto. Si na, mai e si problema ca daca zici ca n-ai avut buget pentro scrog, e posibil sa nu gasesti buget nici pentru lst. :muahaha:
 

exploziv

pure dynamite
Administrator
Veteran
As invata ceva din asta. Ai multe de invatat din asta. Urmatorul grow ar fi mai bun. De fapt, in comparatie cu asta ar fi perfect.
 

exploziv

pure dynamite
Administrator
Veteran
Sau poti pune stop si sa nu mai platesti curentul pentru un rezultat ce va fi cel mai probabil mult sub mediocru.
 
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