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orfeas

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i like your thin leaf zmldlka also and im wondering about the
flowering time that thin plants has....
the thinner,the longer am i wrong?

Shhhh!!! In the house of the hanged man we don't talk about rope!
 

orfeas

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:tiphat:

is the fatter one branchy? looks like mine early, must compare leaves when yours get mature.
this one is quite fast(can say only for rootbound in pot), likes high K(P) low N (~3:1).
and good yielder!

rüdiger

Branchy you said?
There you are then! Enjoy!
 

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ThaiBliss

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Shhhh!!! In the house of the hanged man we don't talk about rope!

Orfeas,

You crack me up with your "sayings". My vocabulary fails me for what to call things like you quote above, but I like the way you convey those thoughts.

TJO - I would say it is a generality that thin leaf Cannabis varieties are generally more tropical and ripen later, but not necessarily true. I once had a very early strain, finished at mid September, that was very potent and thin leaved. I believe Dubi has said he was surprised at how early his Zamal cutting was.

Orfeas, when is your average first frost date? Do you get a rainy season in November? It seems you are south of my location, and on a warm sea. How far above sea level. I think there is cause for hope.

Please forgive me if these questions are not too personal.

ThaiBliss
 

orfeas

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Hola ThaiBliss!
Sometimes I relish aphoristic speech and I know how well you "tolerate" it!
On the other hand, bear in mind I am Greek and so were Lacons(Spartans) renowned for their concise speech:biggrin:

As for my fixed position, I have already mentioned the ~40th parallel(a few minutes North or South don't make a difference!). I won't reveal the longitude though! :biggrin:
Being almost at sea level on an Aegean coast we have quite a mild climate with the first frost hitting in the beginning of December.
Never do we have snow in November!

As for your climate, you really had me wondering when you said you were expecting frost!

Orfeas
 
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rüdiger

ah shes an octopussy:biggrin:

your leave serrations look more *sharp* than mine.
We'll see better when yours is matured more.
my one was quite thick in veg. but pencils out while flowering...
I will put some outdoor when the days shorten again, 51N:biggrin:

in seedling pic you see 5 zamaldelica reg(fatty bubba down left).,the upper left is small but thin leaved.

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orfeas

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51 N, aye!
Kanake oder Fritz? No offence intended though!

Then I am in a much better location and I don't have to face that horrid humid weather of which I know first-hand...
The days start shortening after the solstice. Isn't it a tad late to plant outdoors?
:tiphat:

Nice seedlings by the way!
 
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rüdiger

Hans und Fritz und Rüdiger:biggrin:

Ja the humidity is the biggest problem here, I can just hope for a good summer with low rainfall in september.

I will try to induce flowering indoor short before the solstice and then put those pre flowered clones outside.(non matured seedplant is impossible)
The decreasing light hours will maybe show the plant to get some size and start production.

Its possible to pollute with ruderal but shes semi auto already and i dont think mixing her with those genes is a good idea.
Zamaldelica starts to push flowers really fast when rootbound and im quite fascinated of this behavior considering shes pure sativa.

this pheno flowers in 10 week when rootbound, mid jul., august and september - in this case it'll work

experi-mental-mental-experience:tiphat:rüdiger
 

orfeas

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Hans und Fritz und Rüdiger:biggrin:
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Its possible to pollute with ruderal but shes semi auto already and i dont think mixing her with those genes is a good idea.
Zamaldelica starts to push flowers really fast when rootbound and im quite fascinated of this behavior considering shes pure sativa.

experi-mental-mental-experience:tiphat:rüdiger

We don't have ruderalis around here, so no worries about bastardised harvest, but we do have homo ruderalis:biggrin: that would nick a harvest in no time at all!

This rootbound thing sounds very interesting, I've read it before and it's given me the idea of planting one Jamdel in a 10-15 lt pot so that by the end of September it will have filled all the space. Then if rootbound does accelerate the flowering, chances for a decent timely crop are maximised, aren't they?
 
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rüdiger

We don't have ruderalis around here, so no worries about bastardised harvest, but we do have homo ruderalis:biggrin: that would nick a harvest in no time at all!

This rootbound thing sounds very interesting, I've read it before and it's given me the idea of planting one Jamdel in a 10-15 lt pot so that by the end of September it will have filled all the space. Then if rootbound does accelerate the flowering, chances for a decent timely crop are maximised, aren't they?

Homo Ruderalis:biggrin:made my day

Yes thats exactly what I try and if it works indoor(what it does)
why not under the sun?
Its strange but I have the feeling that rootboundness could even improve floral density and terpenes in (some?) sativas. she knows its over. supernova:biggrin:
keep in mind that this also could accelerate any hidden herm. trait.

In your location it is possible that she grows too fast in a pot like 10l so she is strong rootbound late july and the nutrient is really low. prepare then for heavy feeding when flowering sets in(foliar I can recommend to load her up)beeing careful not to over N.

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orfeas

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I like your meticulous approach!
What you say about rootbound does make a lot of sense, at least in the process of trying to understand the plant's behaviour...
And yes, I will bear in mind the triggering of hermie traits.

The beauty bellow is the other broad leaf Jamdel reg waiting to be either transplanted in a 10 lt pot or decapitated:biggrin:
 

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orfeas

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Well, well
the weather has been quite variant lately, spells of sunshine at times then overcast followed by mild rain. Nights are relatively warm with the full moon occasionally shrouded but most of the time stark naked illuminating the ridges and tops of the mountain...

The broad leaf Jamaldelicas are racing unbridled whereas the thin leaf ones seem to be taking their time. They seem to have acclimatized though but the pace looks rather sluggish.
The one in the pot is the most beautiful topless lady I have ever seen. You see, I pinched its top off the day before and yesterday she showed the first female preflowers.

The Banghis are doing fine despite the slow growth and lack of branches. I reckon they will take off when the days turn a little warmer.
 

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rüdiger

'Nights are relatively warm with the full moon occasionally shrouded but most of the time the most beautiful topless lady I have ever seen will take off the spells of female preflowers'

orfeas?:biggrin:


beautiful. the zamaldelica seems to stand the colder temperatures better than the bangi. perfect, good sign.
 

orfeas

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@ ThaiBliss
Please do! However, your Banghis compared to mine look as if they are polesitters!
But then the race is bloody long and catching up is always feasible:biggrin: The only drawback in the Banghi hideout is the partial sun, say 7-8 hrs direct sunlight. I wish they had sunrise to sunset direct light! Yet, I can't get fussy about it for the rain protection they have makes up for the limited sunlight.

@ Ruediger
Orfeas? No, Ruedigeas!:biggrin:
I liked the cutting and stitching! Funny thing is the meaning still remains the same in the end for I look forward to her shaking off the female preflowers and doing the real gig.
As for the cold temps endurance, I can't see any difference between the Banghis and the thin leaf Jamdels.
By the way, the lady in the pot is not an octopussy any more but rather a ninepussy:biggrin:

Thank you both for the encouraging contribution!

Orfeas
 

ThaiBliss

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Please do! However, your Banghis compared to mine look as if they are polesitters!

Greetings,

Yes, mine are pole-sitters for the last two weeks. My plants, no I, stumbled severely. I have not grown outside for a couple of years. I should have limed my top soil/compost this last winter. I have added so much compost, it gets too acidic. I also should have fertilized them with high nitrogen, 5-1-1, fish fertilizer when I first planted. I'm seeing some signs of recovery, so there is hope for large healthy looking plants before flowering starts.

Here are the best looking ones of the haggard bunch:
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Close-up of most Sativa looking individual:
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PH issue may be very hard to recover from. Lime or calcium carbonate takes some time to break down and affect PH. I don't want to overreact and have the opposite problem, too alkaline soil. All I can do is send positive thoughts.

I think only my pictures are bigger. I get them big by quoting someone else. I remove the text between the tags or not depending on circumstance, but leave the opening quote and end quote tags like this [blah... blah...] to text or not to text [/quote] and everything inside the brackets (blah and /quote). Then I open another tab or browser window and open a window to the picture I would like to post from my albums. Be sure to click on desired picture to open large window with one picture only. Right click and copy. Then come back to the quoted posting editor, and paste where appropriate. Clear as mud? There are so many ways to post pictures here, and each has different effects. Just something to try if you like.

ThaiBliss
 
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orfeas

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There was a resizing problem and they came out small.
Clear as mud? Hmm...
Anyways, just because the pictures aren't doing justice to the Banghis I measured their height and it read 45 cm for the two of them and 35 cm for the third...
 
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orfeas

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ThaiBliss,
looking at your Banghis again, they seem fine to me except for the little folding upwards of their top leaves.
Is that what you take out on the pH? That feltilizing thing makes me wonder though. You see, I did overdo that a tad a few years ego, but the lab analysis read too much organic matter and a pH of 7.4! Nevertheless my ladies were nothing but proliferous and generous...

Happy gardening, too!

Orfeas
 

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