Well this is turning into quite an expedition! I do hope Pescador will be taking pleanty of photos on his vacation in the Blue Mountains...
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Jamaican Strain Identification?
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Nice pic Raco...
I believe Dubi once posted that on another forum and I have been looking for it ever since, though it couyld have been you (I always used to get the two of you mixed up). He (or you) also posted pics of a pink flowering Jamaican 84 that I can no longer find. It sure seems different than the peter tosh legalize it album cover weed. Perhaps, as has been suggested, there were more than 1 strain growing on the island pre Dutch invasion.
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EM, I sure hope to see some living plants in the blue mountains...no guarantees though...even less that I will be allowed to take pictures. I will try my best though.
I will also try to find out from my uncle when the nepali weed came over to the Portland (blue mountains) area. He personally drove a pick up truck full of it to port antonio and the surrounding areas for a few humdred bucks from another part of the island as he was a poor dude at the time (in the 80s). I can say this now as the statue of limitations has past..plus no one knows our name!
I believe Dubi once posted that on another forum and I have been looking for it ever since, though it couyld have been you (I always used to get the two of you mixed up). He (or you) also posted pics of a pink flowering Jamaican 84 that I can no longer find. It sure seems different than the peter tosh legalize it album cover weed. Perhaps, as has been suggested, there were more than 1 strain growing on the island pre Dutch invasion. .
EM, I sure hope to see some living plants in the blue mountains...no guarantees though...even less that I will be allowed to take pictures. I will try my best though.
I will also try to find out from my uncle when the nepali weed came over to the Portland (blue mountains) area. He personally drove a pick up truck full of it to port antonio and the surrounding areas for a few humdred bucks from another part of the island as he was a poor dude at the time (in the 80s). I can say this now as the statue of limitations has past..plus no one knows our name!
I'm already putting subtle pressure on my friend to take me with him when he goes next year...
As for the Nepali story - that's great. Pity your uncle wouldn't have been taking pics of his road-trip all those years back, but I guess things have changed a little now...
As for the Nepali story - that's great. Pity your uncle wouldn't have been taking pics of his road-trip all those years back, but I guess things have changed a little now...
Elevator Man said:I'm already putting subtle pressure on my friend to take me with him when he goes next year...
As for the Nepali story - that's great. Pity your uncle wouldn't have been taking pics of his road-trip all those years back, but I guess things have changed a little now...
Yeah, no evidence is best and he was too poor at the time to even have a camera I think. He did say it was VERY nice bud though.
Check out the pic on the doc chronic website http://www.drchronics-seeds.co.uk/
looks like a JA gorw op to me...
Still looking better (and bluer) all the time...at 24 days 14/10, 14 days 12/12...
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Raco said:I have more pics of the CBG Jamaican,but don´t remember where...I have many CD´s...what a mess!!
I'll help you Raco
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Here are some pics of the same strain, poorly grown by myself under CFL then HPS + CFL.
Pics are only of the 2 ladies of the 4.
The smoke is very enjoyable, I don't know how the debate evolved between indoor vs. outdoor landrace growers, but even indoor, this one is a 5 stars one.
Pics are only of the 2 ladies of the 4.
The smoke is very enjoyable, I don't know how the debate evolved between indoor vs. outdoor landrace growers, but even indoor, this one is a 5 stars one.
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Got my Caribe beans today. 12, I believe. Can't wait to see how they do at 14 degrees N. I'll be sure to let you guys know.
FilsdeCrao - those firts two pics have got me really excited now, as I think mine may be closer than I originally throught. The main thing, apart from the leaf-color and the blade-shape is the serrations - or lack of them. There's a pronounced decrease proportionally on the Jamaican compared to all my others - maybe 25%-30% less? Or put another way, they're larger relative to the overall leaf-size, making fewer...
The leaf-shape is also unique in my garden - it's almost dagger-like, or like some evil cartoon raven or vulture - hard to describe, but the way it just perches there, all dark and weird-looking....
It's looking at me again...
The leaf-shape is also unique in my garden - it's almost dagger-like, or like some evil cartoon raven or vulture - hard to describe, but the way it just perches there, all dark and weird-looking....
It's looking at me again...
Elevator Man said:The leaf-shape is also unique in my garden - it's almost dagger-like, or like some evil cartoon raven or vulture - hard to describe, but the way it just perches there, all dark and weird-looking....
It's looking at me again...
hehe - already the dread vibrations arrive -
- you could cross that with a White Russian or something and name the F1 "The Kingston Triffid"
or a B Movie idea like "I Grew A Vampire Dope Plant" - its vast hydroponic root system reach through from the attic and ... etc etc
Nice going EM! Just getting ready for my trip to the blue mountains. I am suppose to hike to the summit with my girl, but we have been all flued up and maybe too out of shape to do it. But we will be in the mountains none the less on a coffee planation run by rastas, so hopefylly i will get you some interesting pics.
For now, ckeck out what the owner of the ACE?Cannabiogen Blue Mountain sativa had to say on another thread...very reveiling IMO
http://www.uk420.com/boards/index.php?showtopic=64072&st=30
"in the late 1970's I received and grew some Jamaican seeds.
They produced short indica phenotype plants with beautiful aromas, fantastic resination, and one of the sweetest highs I can remember.
From my studies, I took them to be the seeds of plants brought to Jamaica by labourers from sub continental India who arrived indentured, to replace the role of slaves. not sure of the year, same seems to be true in South Africa btw.
Anyway, that set the stage for my belief that ganja and kali, are both terms inherited from the Indian people who came to Jamaica. Later many colombian seeds were planted in Jamaica, and I think Lambsbread is primarily that, Colombian.
Of course Mexican seed also made its way to the island, and accounts for the inconsistency in the quality of "lambsbread".
What interests me most about the Jamaican is not the Colombian aspect, but rather the sweet, resinous, non sedative Indian Indica. Im a snob and hate the Kush and Afghani versions."
That makes sense now...the peter tosh type plants in pictures from the 70s closely resemble the low yielding south Indian sativas such as those posted earlier in this thread. The lambsbread however always seemed to have huge colas unlike those south indians...which seems more columbian such as the columbian that must have come over in the 70s.
For now, ckeck out what the owner of the ACE?Cannabiogen Blue Mountain sativa had to say on another thread...very reveiling IMO
http://www.uk420.com/boards/index.php?showtopic=64072&st=30
"in the late 1970's I received and grew some Jamaican seeds.
They produced short indica phenotype plants with beautiful aromas, fantastic resination, and one of the sweetest highs I can remember.
From my studies, I took them to be the seeds of plants brought to Jamaica by labourers from sub continental India who arrived indentured, to replace the role of slaves. not sure of the year, same seems to be true in South Africa btw.
Anyway, that set the stage for my belief that ganja and kali, are both terms inherited from the Indian people who came to Jamaica. Later many colombian seeds were planted in Jamaica, and I think Lambsbread is primarily that, Colombian.
Of course Mexican seed also made its way to the island, and accounts for the inconsistency in the quality of "lambsbread".
What interests me most about the Jamaican is not the Colombian aspect, but rather the sweet, resinous, non sedative Indian Indica. Im a snob and hate the Kush and Afghani versions."
That makes sense now...the peter tosh type plants in pictures from the 70s closely resemble the low yielding south Indian sativas such as those posted earlier in this thread. The lambsbread however always seemed to have huge colas unlike those south indians...which seems more columbian such as the columbian that must have come over in the 70s.
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I remember Kaiki said he found the Jamaican BM leaning on the Colombian side. It is true she is very different from the Indian sativa posted by glock. The Indian is much more psychoactive and energetic, whereas the jamaican is maybe less trippy but more in the quiet side. Both are very enjoyable however
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Well this is all very interesting, I must say - I hope you get your strength back Pescador - it would be a shame to miss the mountains. As for the possibility of indica-oriented genes present in this pheno - I'm still not sure. It's certainly much too chunky and sturdy to be pure sativa, but I can't think what strains might have combined here.
The leaf shape and color is still spooking me - it's so dark and blue-tinged, and the profile is just nothing like I've ever seen before. I've seen some pics of Indian sativas and indicas, but nothing like this. However, the buds are getting extremely fat and stinky, and I think it will yield high - what it will look like at the finish though, I've no idea.
The smell certainly isn't what I'd call 'beautiful' - it's very pungent, but I can't honestly say it's remotely fruity or floral - sour, cheesy, 'dusty', medicinal and very strange overall. It's still early days, and at full maturity it might attain some sweetness it doesn't have yet.
And just for context, see if you can spot it in the growroom...
The leaf shape and color is still spooking me - it's so dark and blue-tinged, and the profile is just nothing like I've ever seen before. I've seen some pics of Indian sativas and indicas, but nothing like this. However, the buds are getting extremely fat and stinky, and I think it will yield high - what it will look like at the finish though, I've no idea.
The smell certainly isn't what I'd call 'beautiful' - it's very pungent, but I can't honestly say it's remotely fruity or floral - sour, cheesy, 'dusty', medicinal and very strange overall. It's still early days, and at full maturity it might attain some sweetness it doesn't have yet.
And just for context, see if you can spot it in the growroom...
Well, it's not strawberry, but it sure looks like raspberry...
Well, it's not strawberry, but it sure looks like raspberry...
Pescador - just to really confuse you before you go on holiday (I was hoping I could get these up in time!) - here's some photos of two seeded clones of the mystery Jamaican - from the Flo pollen.
As you can see, there's more than a slight resemblance to a certain blue family we all know and love? The smell however, is nothing like - still the same dank cheesy weird thing. Maybe when they're dry they'll acquire more fruit. But also the leaves get much more rounded and chubby as they bud - they were very pointy indeed when I put them into flower, and they got progressively more indica-looking as they got older. It's a real puzzle. But at least I finally have some seeds.
And check out the really, really weird mutant Siamese seed that was the first one I pulled out to check...
Well, it's not strawberry, but it sure looks like raspberry...
Pescador - just to really confuse you before you go on holiday (I was hoping I could get these up in time!) - here's some photos of two seeded clones of the mystery Jamaican - from the Flo pollen.
As you can see, there's more than a slight resemblance to a certain blue family we all know and love? The smell however, is nothing like - still the same dank cheesy weird thing. Maybe when they're dry they'll acquire more fruit. But also the leaves get much more rounded and chubby as they bud - they were very pointy indeed when I put them into flower, and they got progressively more indica-looking as they got older. It's a real puzzle. But at least I finally have some seeds.
And check out the really, really weird mutant Siamese seed that was the first one I pulled out to check...
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