Is the Water You Use the Best It Can Be? Structured Water. Why? And an Easy DIY

[queequeg152]

BTW. petflora is right... pure distilled water is not that bad for you.

maby if you have sensitive medical issues etc? but for the most part pure water is ok.

if you are working outside and sweating your ass off all day and not eating ... might wanna put some sodium in there, but this goes for most all water sources.

where pure water is bad is is in microscope slides lol...did u ever do the hypotonic hypertonic thing in high school?

oh yea and RO water is not that pure fwiw. its very pure, but its not like 0 conductivity 0 salt etc. (pure water is not 0 uS either btw)

most ro systems have some small amouint of leak through at their end of life and from the backwashing.

 

[idiit]

i'm still in the pro restructured water camp.

I try to stay outside closed belief systems.

if I don't see benefits i'll stop restructuring water.

ic doesn't have much respect for ppl speaking without first hand experience.

how many times are you going to say you doubt? why do you need to say "you doubt" more than once?
ic usually doesn't give a fuck what a person without personal experience thinks.


i'm enjoying tremendous benefits since beginning personal use of restructured water. that does not prove the benefits were from the restructured water.

I was using vinegar to ph down for my plants and have recently discovered vinegar for ph down sucks.

I gots some gh ph down on the way, late getting here.

lots of aspects about proper water need to be thoroughly understood.

I was making a critical error using vinegar.

 

[VERMONSTAH]

I have the metabolism of a racehorse still at 43 yrs old, they put chlorine and flouride in the municipal water here and it makes me cringe honestly. I am going out this weekend buying more 5 gallon jugs and just using r/o water from now on. thankyou for your insight guys and gals and in betweens!

 

[PetFlora]

your account of structured water reducing the incidence of shit marks in your toilet is anecdotal.
just saying.

is your toilet staying shit mark free btw?

yes, and mineral deposits inside the gasket of my outside hose are gone

upstairs toilet had black stuff on the bottom that looked like oxidized black gasket- they're gone too

my shower head is spraying at a higher volume, water and skin feels cleaner, blemishes on my back are clearing up

 

[PetFlora]

BTW. petflora is right... pure distilled water is not that bad for you.

maby if you have sensitive medical issues etc? but for the most part pure water is ok.

if you are working outside and sweating your ass off all day and not eating ... might wanna put some sodium in there, but this goes for most all water sources.

where pure water is bad is is in microscope slides lol...did u ever do the hypotonic hypertonic thing in high school?

oh yea and RO water is not that pure fwiw. its very pure, but its not like 0 conductivity 0 salt etc. (pure water is not 0 uS either btw)

most ro systems have some small amouint of leak through at their end of life and from the backwashing.

Distilling is a heat process, RO is a squeeze process through layers of concentric thin film membranes.

Given sufficient incoming water pressure (my ro has a booster pump) you can equal distilled purity

Distilled boilers need to be routinely cleaned (PITA) whereas RO membranes are simply replaced

 

[PetFlora]

Something just occurred to me have you tried putting the k-magnets
around the stem of the plant ? I guess it would need to be fairly
loose and monitored to make sure the stem does not over grow the
Mags. I may try this next grow

I don't see the need. My plants get fed 6xs /24 hours. each feed passes through the magnets, as well as drain back

 

[idiit]

I have the metabolism of a racehorse still at 43 yrs old, they put chlorine and flouride in the municipal water here and it makes me cringe honestly. I am going out this weekend buying more 5 gallon jugs and just using r/o water from now on. thankyou for your insight guys and gals and in betweens!

idiit actually came up wid a brilliant remedy.

get cheap silk stockings off ebay . $1 pair.

fill the toe wids sum activated charcoal and bone char charcoal. tie off above the packed toe. cut off the silk stocking leg above the tied knot.


place the homemade activated/bonechar silk package in a gallon water container. I have three.

for drinking water you could also place some binchu charcoal in the water pitcher.

if we are going to the trouble to restructure water we should also clean up the tap water a little. two easy ways to do this is Bone char and Binchō-tan charcoal. the Binchō-tan charcoal is a really great topic. in japan high end bars purify the water to make ice with Binchō-tan. the Binchō-tan ice is much harder than polluted water ice. when the Binchō-tan charcoal ice melts the japanese bar customer holds the glass to his/her ear and listens to a spectacular symphony of sounds as the ice melts. those Japanese take so many areas up to a connoisseur level.

http://www.reactual.com/home-and-gar...binchotan.html

BONE CHARCOAL
"The use of bone charcoal or bone char (carbonized animal bone) is reported to be an effective means for the reduction of fluoride. Bone charcoal contains a carbon structure while supporting a porous hydroxyapatite matrix (a calcium phosphate hydroxide in crystalline form which is rich in surface ions which can be readily replaced by fluoride ion). Adsorption and ion exchange are thought to be the mechanism for fluoride reduction by bone char."

http://www.buyactivatedcharcoal.com/fluoride_removal

so, two types of charcoal placed in your watering reservoir/bucket to remove tap water pollutants and then your preferred means of restructuring your water.

this is water enhancement..


This remains petflora's restructuring water thread. i'm using purified tap water to restructure.


it does not make any sense to restructure polluted tap water as my "crystal technology" source pointed out so I included the pre-step of charcoal purification.


binchu charcoal is expensive. bone char is relatively cheap;


http://www.buyactivatedcharcoal.com/bone_char_20x60mesh

 

[PetFlora]

why not get an RO. Much cheaper than highly questionable bottled Use it for cooking, drinking, ice cubes... as well as to mix nutrients

Here's the one I use

https://www.amazon.com/iSpring-RCC7...d=1466169520&sr=8-34&keywords=reverse+osmosis

 

[idiit]

almost free. bulk charcoal is dirt cheap.

pantyhose can be untied, filled with fresh charcoal, retied once a month.



I've had dramatic health improvement in several areas so i'm going to stick with this for a while.

 

[queequeg152]

I have the metabolism of a racehorse still at 43 yrs old, they put chlorine and flouride in the municipal water here and it makes me cringe honestly. I am going out this weekend buying more 5 gallon jugs and just using r/o water from now on. thankyou for your insight guys and gals and in betweens!

chlorine is fine. it saves millions of lives a year.

flouride is debatable. worst case its useless, best case it helps poor people keep their teeth a few years longer.

 

[_tessarecting]

Calcification of the pineal gland is a totally normal byproduct of aging some people have twisted into fear mongering.

 

[idiit]

do you guys think flouride calcifies the pineal gland? If not, does it have any effect on it? If yes, how does one clean it?

from what I read the answer is yes. I gots no way of actually knowing.

The tricalcium phosphate in bone char can be used to remove fluoride[3] and metal ions from water, making it useful for the treatment of drinking supplies. Bone charcoal is the oldest known water defluoridation agent and was widely used in the US from the 1940s through to the 1960s.[4] As it can be generated cheaply and locally it is still used in certain developing countries, such as Tanzania.[5] Bone chars usually have lower surface areas than activated carbons, but present high adsorptive capacities for certain metals, particularly those from group 12 (copper, zinc, and cadmium).[6] Other highly toxic metal ions, such as those of arsenic[7] and lead[8] may also be removed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bone_char

I use bone char and activated charcoal.

 

[idiit]

Although chlorine's value has been known for nearly a century, the mechanism by which the compound kills or inactivates microorganisms is not clearly understood.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-does-chlorine-added-t-1998-05-04/

Chlorine is by far the most widely used solution for removing bacteria and viruses from municipal water supplies. Your tap water may not be as innocuous as you think it is. Any number of harmful chemicals, heavy metals, and infectious agents may be dissolved in it.

but here’s the rub. Chlorine is not picky about which microorganisms it destroys. There is enough residual chlorine present in tap water to kill the friendly microorganisms in your gut, too. These are the same organisms you are trying to cultivate when you take probiotics.

http://www.drdeborahmd.com/chlorine-our-water

 

[PetFlora]

do you guys think flouride calcifies the pineal gland? If not, does it have any effect on it? If yes, how does one clean it?

According to George Kavassilas, in his mind expanding book Our Universal Journey both the chakra and pineal are false light systems. Throughout the world there are major political and religious structures, with pine cones, which is a representation of the p glad- that's a pretty big clue

 

[PetFlora]

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-does-chlorine-added-t-1998-05-04/

Most EU countries use H2O2 to disinfect municipal water

 

[idiit]

Most EU countries use H2O2 to disinfect municipal water

far superior to chlorine me thinks.

chloine is bad stuff.

 

[queequeg152]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]but here’s the rub. Chlorine is not picky about which microorganisms it destroys. There is enough residual chlorine present in tap water to kill the friendly microorganisms in your gut, too. These are the same organisms you are trying to cultivate when you take probiotics. [/FONT]

this is COMPLETE horse shit.

who the fuck wrote that? seriously? thats the stupidest shit ive ever seen. why dont you do even the most cursory research before you make such moronic claims?

do you understand how little chlorine there is in tap water?

this isnt fucking pool water. the tap water is virtually 100% clean already... infact the state makes you do "bactees", or bacteriological tests, wherein petri dish swaps are made with the tap water samples prior to the well being put into service.

if bacteria are present in the ground water, the state ramps up the requirements, and the well migh never even see public use. id say 99% of the time a positive bactee is from a poorly disinfected well case, in which case it can just be disinfected again.

i work on private water wells for a living btw.

chlorine disinfection via hypochlorous acid is perfectly safe. by the time it reaches your tap its likely down to around .1 mg/l.

hypochlorous acid is an insanely weak oxidant. this is why its able to linger in the water for long periods of time.... unlike peroxide.

without a long resiidence time, you run into issues wherein long water distributions sytems can go without any disinfection what so ever. this is BAD. when pipes age, the joints can sometimes leak water.... when pressure is taken off these pipes contaminated ground water can leak into these pipes via these leaks.

if you have 0 chlorine residual, this contaminated ground water can KILL YOU, especially if you are old as shit, or immune compromised.

when water lines are initially opened they need to be jetted and disinfected prior to use by the public.

this involves filling the water like with a solution of water and bleach at roughly 30mg/l.

people NEVER drink this water. its simply to disinfect the line prior to it being in use. this highly chlorinated water is then drained off via flushing valves or hydrants untill it tests below state standards.

that is literally the ONLY time a water line sees chlorine levels above normal. this is literally 0 chance you are drinking any appreciable amount of chlorine.

the only real issue is with waters prone to producing "HAA"s, and "THM"s. but guess what, the state tests for these disinfection by products. in waters particularly prone to their formation, alternative modes of disinfection can be used... such as chloramines or even a chlorine dioxide generator(very rare).

europe does NOT use peroxides. peroxides have very poor disinfection residuals.

i have heard of Europeans using UV disinfection, but most places uise chlorine and chloramine. peroxide is too expensive, and UV systems are high maintenance and limited to ONLY very small very high flow water systems with very low leakage levels.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypochlorous_acid#Reaction_with_DNA_and_nucleotides

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disinfection_by-product

 

[queequeg152]

Most EU countries use H2O2 to disinfect municipal water

no they dont.

 

[_tessarecting]

According to George Kavassilas, in his mind expanding book Our Universal Journey both the chakra and pineal are false light systems. Throughout the world there are major political and religious structures, with pine cones, which is a representation of the p glad- that's a pretty big clue

This is literally the dumbest thing I've ever read...and I read The Ambassador by Henry James

 

[TreehouseJ]