Is Nevilles Haze still the strongest haze?

[l33t]

happyhi,

you're welcome man
Seedsman used to sell real NH (mns) but if you got feminized NH seeds they are unfortunately knock-offs.

"i am still searching for that jaw hurting laughter"
yep the real Nevs will give plants that will bring back those old memories The high can last over 3-6hrs and will get you higher and higher even after months of constant heavy daily use and even if you smoke just this and nothing else. The smoke is veerrryyy expanding after a good cure , I remember at a hemp fair Joe Pietri didn't manage to take a single hit from my pure nevs fattie without coughing his lungs out..an I mean..literally.. He eventually put the joint out to finish it off later..

Now make sure to do some selection with the NH though and I would suggest you run two packs if you can to make sure you get a plant with the legendary high that also ticks all the boxes to keep for life in the garden. 1 pack should still be more than enough to get an idea of the magic of this line

Mango Haze is a more practical Haze hybrid and generally easier to grow esp indoors and not as slow as the NH , but also has some unique Haze plants with a super clear all-in-the-head high. It has some sweet mango phenos but you can also find incense/peppery flavored plants. This line is a sister strain to Super Silver Haze which btw is also an excellent haze hybrid and with the right hazy SSH pheno you will be experiencing the same "flashes" Carl Sagan used to experience with trippy weed back in the 60s/70s. http://www.druglibrary.org/think/~jnr/sagan.htm

La Nina uses a different Haze parent than the rest lines (LN uses Haze as the female side) and is a Widow Haze cross with no NL or Skunk blood , yields low but the hazy phenos are truly special. Such an uplifting herb! A high to remember!
Btw some of my LN plants look quite similar to the buds you have in your gallery labeled as the "closest thing to OH".

"but tell me truthfully are the mns nh seeds worth 110 pounds for 15 seeds?thanks 10 plus bucks a seed, i don't mind shelling it out if it is really that special. "

Its actually 18 or more seeds per pack and yes..these genetics worth their money..every single penny. Such strains are not for the average grower as you know and can be hard to grow esp under lights in a confined space but if you don't mind growing a plant that can flower for over 3.5-4.5 months you will be rewarded. I ve grown many strains from different top breeders and also grown/smoked many different hybrids and landraces from growers/areas around the world..all I can say is NH is up there with the best of the best and far ahead from most of the competition. Like I said if you want to smoke again something really close to the 70's Haze , NH is one of the best options as far as I'm concerned.

"To me the best was Original Haze. Everytime I smoked the best Original Haze I would get a rush, flashing stars, and my blood sugar would lower, my blood presure would seem lower, and I would feel a bit sweaty. And I mean every time, even after smoking it for days, weeks, months."
from: http://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php...&postcount=150

This is exactly how NH smokes

If you want to hear what other experienced growers have to say about NH here are some of my favorites smoke reports

"We rolled a really skinny spliff about the size of skinny pencil. The taste of the smoke was beautiful. The best I have ever tasted. Very mild and smooth like pine, even tasted like you were not even smoking anything at all. Had just a third of a joint and MMMMMMM Waaaayyy tooo much. The stone was very deceptive. At first I didn’t think I was stoned at all. Its one of those creepers. Except it kept on creeping getting stronger and stronger becoming really intense and very trippy and hallucinogenic. Definitely the strongest sativa stone I have ever experienced. It’s has a really up high gave us one of those laughing attacks combined with a real trippiness to it. I’m sure this stuff has LSD in the genes somewhere. Its definitely not for the inexperienced smoker. In my experience it must be close to being one of the best sativa varieties out there!" "Believe me this stuff will take you higher then the stars its pure rocket fuel."

"The weed smells like pepper. While it was drying the house smelt very strongly of pepper - not a hot irritating smell but more like a fragrant pepper flower. Buds are very sticky - you could wad up a handful and they would stay molded in the shape of your hand. One bongload, three people - the taste was very smoothe, yet still reminds me of white pepper - or cardamon. There is a very pungent undertaste of some other spice that tastes so familiar yet I can't identify it - I'll keep trying Anyway - about 3 hits each, and we're babbling. Chatter, chatter - typical of the three of us together, music DVD playing - just another evening at home with the Hound family. Then I noticed I could not understand what my friend was saying - she was talking but no sound was reaching my ears. I had to ask her "what?" a couple of times before I realized that I could not understand spoken English. The only way I could understand her speech was to concentrate very closely on reading her lips. I could hear and understand the words in the music with no problem, but not real human speech.That was a first for me... I could not coordinate all the physical processes at one time. I had to remember to first manually turn my head in her direction, then consciously move my eyes to her lips, and then try to catch each word as it came out. They came out so fast I could not "see" each one individually - it was like alphabet soup. She was trying to ask me if the weed was laced (no - just excellent), but had as much trouble speaking the words as I did following them.I also felt a bit of a blood pressure spike, and some eye stress type visualization effects towards the edges of my peripheral vision. We had a great giggle fest - side splitting laughter like you remember from the old days, for no particular reason.We were capable of doing things - aside from the difficulty with my head motor skills seemed relatively unaffected. We fired up the grill and turned out some mighty tasty salmon without burning the house down, and the kitchen is still standing this morning. I do remember that each of us felt compelled to check the grill about 10 times to make sure we turned the propane off... safety first! After dinner I rolled a couple of joints, handed each of us the end of a leash, and we went dog walking - we walk and smoke... It was simply the most beautiful evening I have ever spent - a full moon, a blue bazillion lumens of lights and sparkles and just absolute beauty! Cold crisp air like we rarely get down here - stars.. good lord it was awesome!! My husband, my best friend, and my dogs.... a righteous good time. Eventually my friend has to go home - the husband and I head home for some calming indica, some chocolate, a comforter and a good snuggle sitting around the chimnea on the patio. An excellent evening all the way around. I didn't have extreme munchies at all (but I rarely do), no body stone to speak of, I slept really well, and no weed hangover this morning.Not your typical everyday "relaxation weed" but great for socializing with some carefully selected friends." "easily the best smoke I have ever had!!"

For more smoke reports check Capt.Crip's NH and search for comments on mr Haze' s NH

By the way I was wondering do you remember any fuel-like or catpiss flavors in the '70s Haze ?

l33t

 

[DocLeaf]

Considering it's meant to be so popular,, not many ppl are showing images of Nevilles Haze here.

To be honest, I'm much rather have the original sativa landraces that went into Haze or ones of similar quality rather than Haze itself..

Ditto,, we've grown all the contributing landraces before ,, sure wish we still had some of the Colombian lines

Peace n flowers

 

[Raco]

Roco you do not want me to post about these secretive groups and clics you very well know what im talking about here you also hate neville

Post whatever you want, troll...I don´t care
You are a lier,I don´t know of any secretive group
I only post here,at cannabiscafe.net and charlie garcia´s forum..
cannabiogen.com/club.
Now if you have any proof (you don´t) feel free to post it here but since you can´t STFU...troll
..I have nothing to hide I don´t hate neville (why should I?)
I don´t even hate you!!
happyhi,
Do you mean that Haze is colombian alone,no mex or anything else??

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

Hi Gypsy well thats fine but maybe wheel your sward with fairness and not just wheel it to silence.

I have no problem with you Gypsy i always got on with you even way back in og days and cw days way before you even got involved in running sites like this wen others trashed you i did not always treated you with respect but saying that you want to ban me well maybe i will just delet and leve trust me mate i dont want to be part of a community that is not wanting me to be there or do i want to be part of a community that i have lost respect for fact is Gypsy you have some idear of what neville has done and you know shanti as i do on a personal level and yet you sit back and not say a thing when they bash neville why is that why becouse sam is here now. common mate.



I dont hate sam but he sure hates neville yet why is it when sam last sed that neville stole my lines yada yada and shanti came in and posted basicly to sam and sed neville went collected lots of genetics and how does any one know wat neville did or were neville went to collect genetics or any of nevilles personal life or travels sam stoped backed off no offence Gypsy but this sort of stuff only goes to discredit neville and mr nice in short.



No its not good clean fun your basicly rubbishing a guy that did a lot for this community and you are distorting the past efferts of a person you know little about or what he infact did.








I had a go at roco please roco is a big boy if he posts a replie to me i have a right to replie to him who are you his mother.

I dont hate brits im infact dateing one the only racist here is you and your comment about all australians loveing to fight and the rest is childish grow up and get over it seams you to are suffering from cannabis envy im woundering now who you infact are as you also seam to have a prob with neville and it shows in your posts.



Roco you do not want me to post about these secretive groups and clics you very well know what im talking about here you also hate neville tuff get over it his got and collected genetics done more than you could ever hope to and you keep growing ot1 line mate injoy it wen you want real haze then go find some be it tfd sams vertion or nevilles.

You guys are childish and its clear as day and act like little bullys that like to gang up and go off crying wen you get a nose bleed lol fact is you lot all suffer cannabis envy can not handle what neville has achived and did you know i my self never met neville friend did but fact is he deserves more respect than you lot are showing him in this post and this all started at the time ot1 line showed iup funny that.

Seeds speek for them selfs quolity of product is what counts not what you lot say or what i do in short.


If i do get banned was a pleasure but if i get banned think a few others in here should to.

Look Pal......I gave you a warning for your language....If you cannot get involved in this debate and not revert to a 'Tauret's Syndrome' induced diatribe about who you think people hate or not then you are not welcome in the company here that are trying to discuss the subject matter of the thread.....sensibly and progresively...

No one that I can see posting on this thread 'Hates' Neville.....from what I can gather no-one here (including yourself) has even met the guy so that would be kind of ridiculous now would'nt it?....to hate on someone you have never met/known and had no dealings with...

I have met OT1 on a few occasions in the past and he has left me some outstanding examples of drug cultivar varieties of cannabis to savour.....and he is an excellent breeder from what I can gather....so I can speak about him....

With all my years of being in and around the world of cannabis and its growers and breeders I have heard many stories and from what I can assertain Neville operated in a not dissimilar fashion to myself in that he collected genetic material from all over the planet and then either grew it out or more often got other breeders to grow it out to make seeds which he then sold....often he would sell landrace varieties before they had been played with by any other western grower or breeder.....and that in essence is an honourable thing to do....So naturally Neville has a place in the modern development of various strains/varieties mainly as an aquirer of land-race breeding stock and other already worked varieties for many others to grow and breed from....pretty much the same as I am doing but Neville was doing it more than a decade before I started to...

 

[Moppel]

nobody met neville......maybe he is yummybud?

 

[buddah]

nobody met neville......maybe he is yummybud?

anybody met yummi???

he he the famous yummi haze

 

[Raco]

I don't think ot1 was lying, he had been misled, I knew Wernard from 1984 he got seeds and Haze 19 as he called it from me.

-SamS

FWIW

 

[ClearBarbedFunk]

fact is this posi genetics tom used was sort out so it was good and i my self would grow toms haze out any day not only is toms work good the guy called tom hill is a nice guy and as far as iv seen has only ever been honest more have made money from his work than he has.

You can look at a plant see its flowering times and flower structure to know if its a pure haze or not fellas dont take a rocket scientis to work out if its pure haze or not what really matters here is if its infact haze or a real haze hybrid and toms is.

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Hola hempy, i know Tom fairly well, meanin ive met him, spent time with him at his digs. i have no reason what so ever to question his word.

now you have grown many types of ganja as many of us have. i have done many outcrosses with his haze, and of course many straight haze from his offerins.

you know as well as anyone, that there are short flowerin plants in many many seedlines. from what tom has told me, he has worked Posi's haze for many years, and if ya have grown any mexi lines, you will see the broader leaf types in those. tom selected for the faster plants, and of course resin production.

lumbos, mex are straight up sativas, that have plants that flower from 12 to 20 weeks, ive grown a bunch of highland oaxacan that finished in 12 weeks, with large fruity buds. so when goin thru a shit load of haze plants i dont see how anyone can say there wont be 14/15 week haze phenotypes, do you agree?

ive only grown OT1s haze for comparison, and imo they are nothin alike. but haveint grown that many OT1 Haze plants. the OT1 offerin was very much like some lemon Thai plants ive grown. jungle sativas.

you said you had done research in determinin that Toms offerin is in fact a hybrid, and from what i gather you make this statement from lookin at pics here online.

i can find a shit load of pics that resemble a Haze plant, but there nothin more then a sativa. imo noone can make any determination on what a plant is made up of by lookin at a picture.

im no Haze guru, but in my early days on OG, i did plenty of my own research on haze, and from the offerins at the time, i went with Toms, not nevilles(hybrid) not TFDs(gangly plants)

when Tom aquired his haze from Posi, it wasnt even on there menu, all they had was a hybrid PHaze. posi told Tom it was straight Haze, and its went from there.

CBF

 

[indifferent]

Some background info on Positronics Haze from Hans who used to work there and later formed Skunk Fanclub Amsterdam, now sadly passed away:

I have smoked Haze in the Positronics twice, and both times by mistake I am afraid. I know it is not normal.
Haze is terrible to smoke.You can eat 20 snicker bars but that won't get you sober.It is a day-dream that won't let go.
We tried to sell the cuttings but it wasn't succesfull amongst the amsterdam growers, because the flowering time is between 14 and 16 weeks.I have seen the mother, the cuttings, the very tiny buds, real small and light sand in colour with some pink pistills, and if you rolled such a small bud between 2 fingers, it turned into black hash, really dark black sticky shit with a terrible smell to it.Haze is a sativa looking plant, thin leaves.A small zig-zagging stam with small buds in the corners, absolutely not these big buds that they wave in your face all over internet.I don't know one coffeeshop or seedshop in Amsterdam that would sell real pure Haze.They just don't have it.But many shop owners don't know their material so they just sell what they have been told.They have no control over their produktion.

If we look at the old Positronics seed line-up, they sold four Hazes:

Afghani
Amstel 11
Aurora Borealis (Northern Light)
Californian Orange Bud
Cithai
Citral
Four Way
Golden Leaf
Green Dragon
Haze
Haze#19
Haze#19xSkunk#1
Hindu Kush
Hollandsh Hoop
Master Kush
Misty
Purple Haze
Shiva
Silver Pearl
Skunk#1
Skunk Special, (Red Hair)
Top-44
Viking
XXX

Purple Haze was Haze x Purple Power, Haze was the one Tom Hill bought and preserved. Not sure what Haze #19 was, probably a selection made by either Old Ed or Peter the Bushdoctor in the Positronics Garden.

Hans gave some interesting info about how Posi worked and how their Haze line was accpeted (or not) by the Dutch growers:

Everyone knows that far before Purple Haze we had Purple Power.
These are often confused in the coffeeshops, or they try to sell you something that sounds alike.Purple Power is the big afghanie strain that is a typical outdoor tree.A big Bushy thing with huge fingers that will give you purple looking buds, the smell is still that typical afghanie puke smell, a bit sour.I would say that the average Purple Power you buy in the amsterdam coffeeshop is a lower quality outdoor/greenhouse weed.Now when the americans came to amsterdam, they had that Haze, and the Dutch knew how to turn plants in an even more attracktive colour....."Purple".And believe me, my teachers are pure hippies, so to have a purple haze whas really cooooooooooool men'!If you look at the haze you see the same stam, leaf, fingers, buds, (more bit's than buds as a matter of fact) the only difference is in the colour.I do not know who exactly made the Haze, all sorts of stories go around amongst the americans, Neville, The Grimm Brothers, Sam the Skunkman, Elvis, and at least 3 more who claim to have made it.(I never join the americans in amsterdam not even in their conversations, they live in their own disneyamsterdam) sweet people, who ever brought it to the positronics doesn't matter to me, they did.Of course the storie came with it that it was the most powerfull plant, so it went into the green productionline and cuttings started coming out of the green department, we used to have several show grow's in the building so we showed the plant in flower.The customers said very disapointed:Is that all?And indeed if you are used to having 20 grams per plant in 8 weeks, than 2 maybe 3 grams per plant is a bit skinny, in 14/16 weeks of flowering.That's what it is...it is next to nothing.The cuttings hardly sold, I believe 200 and that was all.Than we replaced it with an 8 week plant again.A small plant with almost nothing to harvest.But if you put 0,10gram in one joint you will have 4 hours of rollercoasterride to enjoy.(It will not stop)First thing that happens is that you feel your hart beating fast, than the swetty hands, and than the thickest STONED you have ever felt, like mud.Really, don't join traffic or any conversation with this in your head.It's a vegetable ego trip.Really & honestly, you don't want this if you are a normal smoker.A normal joint you can get rid of by eating chocolade, but a joint from Haze is really a different thing.There was only one grower who made Haze for positronics, because he was able and patient enough and that went to medical use.I will not forget that red erik walked out of the green and gave me half a joint without telling me what whas in there, my day was messed up.I believe I have watched the pollinators rolling for the rest of that day.I know the meaning of psychoACTIVE weed.Again let me warn you far before it get's there, Haze is NOT pleasant.Haze is not your everyday plant.You must be stabile if you want to smoke it, because it might have a strong effect on your "wellbeing".And as we all know weed magnifies your mood.Well, Haze effect is like a microscope.The pistills are looking like small crowns,stand up proud and covered with chrystals, they are pink, milky, a blue/purple one in between.It's 15 mm in length, at the max.If you have a bud between your fingers and you press and roll around once, you will see brown black hash between your fingers with a bit of fibers left where pistills are made from, so it looks like dark shit.That's how fat it really is.Now the smell of burning Haze is also terrible, it stinks like a bear has been shitting in your house, a dark bitter smell, you cannot mis it if they smoke it, you will start to search for a bear your self because of this smell.So you get almost nothing, it takes forever, and it stinks like a bear, and it is far too strong to smoke.I thought you all grew for fun ;-)

Some great words about why things have gone downhill since Positronics shut down:

some serious breeding?I did served Old Ed his tea every morning at 10.30 and looked over his shoulder when he was selecting his plants to make seeds from, (he had an own growing room inside the positronics) I learned a lot by just listening to him, because he explained everything so clear and simple, there's no way I will ever forget these methods.But thanks to my GREAT teacher Peter the Bushdoctor I know every detail there's to know about hash and weed.He also teached me the powers of this plant, and how people can react on these.He teached me the finest way to make weed, and he explained to me how produktion works.Besides the Blue'ing proces he teached me several other things that you will not read in these growbooks they sell.He did worked in the weed world since 1968, he really had seen it all.He always said that plants never cause troubles, the people do!He teached me to accept certain behaviour from plants, that we just have to live with.(Meaning: we must serve the plant, other wise it will never serve you.) Ehm, the magic word was QUALITY, no matter in what....it is quality that counts.Everything you do must be the best for the plant, than you are able to make some good weed.At the end I cooked for him and cleaned his house, so I heard a few things. Peter whas the best teacher one could find in holland if it comes to weed.He was the motor in the Positronics, all the growers asked for his advise (if possible), all the so called big ones admired him because he never bended for corruption.The thing he worried about that whas that his bicycle wouldn't get stolen, a real old 50's black gentlemans bicycle that used to belong to his father.And as a miracle it never was stolen. Wernard has always been the great mind behind several new ideas, but the green department was Peter's.

As for hempy and his slating of Tom's Haze as a hybrid, who the fuck is hempy to talk? Did he ever grown Positronics Haze from either seed or cutting? Did he ever visit the store, tour the garden, see the Haze mother plant, chat with Old Ed and Peter about it? Has he grown Tom's seeds? hempy is just hot air from down under.

 

[DocLeaf]

Not sure what Haze #19 was, probably a selection made by either Old Ed or Peter the Bushdoctor in the Positronics Garden.

When Wernard and Eddy (FDM) got the 'Haze' seeds from Sam,, they sowed them out and labeled them by #.

#19 was the female Haze plant Wernard used to make Haze#19 x Skunk #1 hybrids. (Skunk #1 was also donated to them from Sam).

Later Haze #19 x Skunk became known as 'Haze Skunk' in NL.

This is the story as we understand it ,, according to both Sam and Wernard... jah bless

Hope this helps

 

[indifferent]

Aye, that is the story I heard as well. There is some documentary proof on those grows Sam and Eddy did through Dutch criminal records such as the first big bust in Aalsmeer (1988 I think it was) but given the nature of the documents I've found from Dutch sources I question every story these days and stay open to other possibilities until hard evidence turns up.

The Haze19 x skunk story is probably true though.

I've extensively researched a lot of things to do with this whole Sam, Neville and others controversy and gave up because the negativity of it all got to me and I decided just growing weed was much more fun and an in-depth knowledge of the history wasn't as important to me as I used to think it was.

 

[Dalaihempy]

As for hempy and his slating of Tom's Haze as a hybrid, who the fuck is hempy to talk? Did he ever grown Positronics Haze from either seed or cutting? Did he ever visit the store, tour the garden, see the Haze mother plant, chat with Old Ed and Peter about it? Has he grown Tom's seeds? hempy is just hot air from down under.

indifferent i finaly worked out who you are not importent but you need to tone it down becouse you will only get a nose bleed yet agine from all this anger lol.

I belived it was a haze hybrid from this below ..

Well roco maybe i miss read that but i came to the conclution from this by sam ..What a crock, Positronics did not even have any Haze until I gave it to them after the mid 1980's.
They crossed Haze with a local Pars Purple outdoor variety that was weak shit pot that had a nice color.

And the fact toms line has purple plants in it showing up often and is controluble unlike growing nh indoors and this from sam ....BTW, some of the Purple Haze needed cold to turn purple, others did not need cold and were purple even if never cold. Purple Haze was pure
Original Haze, and the purple color was not dominate, so easy to lose.

Tells me to.


But i would infact grow toms line my self .

But as i sed i would infact grow toms out but i would not grow TFD .


You better tone it down mate you have no idear what australians are your a racist egotistic try hard give it up like it matters what plant was siting in eds mum room what matters is the product the seeds offerd produce and you grew nevilles haze f1s did you to know the quolity by chance as in mr nice f1 nh or from neville.

I will replie to the rest of you later.

 

[happyhi]

happyhi,

you're welcome man
Seedsman used to sell real NH (mns) but if you got feminized NH seeds they are unfortunately knock-offs.

"i am still searching for that jaw hurting laughter"
yep the real Nevs will give plants that will bring back those old memories The high can last over 3-6hrs and will get you higher and higher even after months of constant heavy daily use and even if you smoke just this and nothing else. The smoke is veerrryyy expanding after a good cure , I remember at a hemp fair Joe Pietri didn't manage to take a single hit from my pure nevs fattie without coughing his lungs out..an I mean..literally.. He eventually put the joint out to finish it off later..

Now make sure to do some selection with the NH though and I would suggest you run two packs if you can to make sure you get a plant with the legendary high that also ticks all the boxes to keep for life in the garden. 1 pack should still be more than enough to get an idea of the magic of this line

Mango Haze is a more practical Haze hybrid and generally easier to grow esp indoors and not as slow as the NH , but also has some unique Haze plants with a super clear all-in-the-head high. It has some sweet mango phenos but you can also find incense/peppery flavored plants. This line is a sister strain to Super Silver Haze which btw is also an excellent haze hybrid and with the right hazy SSH pheno you will be experiencing the same "flashes" Carl Sagan used to experience with trippy weed back in the 60s/70s. http://www.druglibrary.org/think/~jnr/sagan.htm

La Nina uses a different Haze parent than the rest lines (LN uses Haze as the female side) and is a Widow Haze cross with no NL or Skunk blood , yields low but the hazy phenos are truly special. Such an uplifting herb! A high to remember!
Btw some of my LN plants look quite similar to the buds you have in your gallery labeled as the "closest thing to OH".

"but tell me truthfully are the mns nh seeds worth 110 pounds for 15 seeds?thanks 10 plus bucks a seed, i don't mind shelling it out if it is really that special. "

Its actually 18 or more seeds per pack and yes..these genetics worth their money..every single penny. Such strains are not for the average grower as you know and can be hard to grow esp under lights in a confined space but if you don't mind growing a plant that can flower for over 3.5-4.5 months you will be rewarded. I ve grown many strains from different top breeders and also grown/smoked many different hybrids and landraces from growers/areas around the world..all I can say is NH is up there with the best of the best and far ahead from most of the competition. Like I said if you want to smoke again something really close to the 70's Haze , NH is one of the best options as far as I'm concerned.This is exactly how NH smokes

If you want to hear what other experienced growers have to say about NH here are some of my favorites smoke reportsFor more smoke reports check Capt.Crip's NH and search for comments on mr Haze' s NH

By the way I was wondering do you remember any fuel-like or catpiss flavors in the '70s Haze ?



l33t

Interesting that you should note the cat piss odor, the brown/green old school that i just finished courtesy of a
generous Icmag member had the cat piss odor which i
also identify with old school weed. That odor that i notice
during flowering tends to fade as the cure takes over.
It then turns to more of a piney smell and the smoke becomes
considerably better imo after the cure.
thanks for all the great info on NH, i am going to get some
and likely do a few runs indoors until i find the pheno and
then save cuts and run them outdoors where they have the time and room to flourish.
peace/hh

 

[indifferent]

Hempy, you're confusing Purple Haze with Haze. Positronics sold both. Purple Haze was, as Sam said, Haze x Purple Power, a dutch outdoor afghan they'd had for a long time, bad tasting low potency crap.

Haze, as purchased by Tom had purple phenos, they are from the colombian part of the Haze. OT1's Haze produces purple plants too. Why Sam's doesn't is open to debate, probably Sam selected them out of his line as he preferred the sweeter thai/indian side.

I think this is the fourth or fifth time I've seen exactly this point made to you online and you have never taken it onboard. Your viewpoint and aggressive outburts about Tom's Haze and OT1's Haze would be more palateable if you had actually grown these varieties and actually had some firsthand knowledge about them, but you don't.

It's always seemed clear to me that the major reason behind your extreme negativity towards any Haze that wasn't Neville's and attacks on people like raco, dubi and ot1 is that Neville is Australian and so are you.

Imagine two men stood in a pub discussing who was the greatest test batsmen they ever saw, the West Indian is reminiscing about Viv Richards and his 'masterblaster' era of the late 70s and the Yorkshireman he's talking to is getting all misty-eyed about Geoffrey Boycott's persistence and Brian Close's bravery. Then this random Australian strides upto them and screams at them and calls them all kinds of nasty names because he knows that Don Bradman was the greatest test batsmen of all time and everyone else is stupid and dishonest because they disagree.

You're that obnoxious Australian, hempy and it's an indictment of your character that you don't realise how out of order your conduct has been for several years now on several different forums.

 

[bageled j]

LOL.too funny hempy.just like in the "kush" threads.u post your non factual info.i think everyone would be more open to your opinion if you actually had experience with these lines you bash.

 

[DocLeaf]

Wasn't "Purple Haze" originally selected from 'Haze' seeds in the USA,, then inbred separately by growers (in upstate New York) someplace ? A later edition (edited by Rosenthal) of 'Marijuana Grower's Guide' by Mel Franks mentions this,, we only got an old copy so cant find the ref. ,, the edited /updated version has the info in. Think its on pdf someplace online.

This thread is turning into another "Haze" epic..lol

Peace out all...

 

[indifferent]

The Posi Purple Haze was a Haze x Purple Power hybrid, Sam says the purple in his Haze was there and was the Colombian phenos. I'm not familiar with the other stories but I've not read Mel Frank's book either.

 

[DocLeaf]

Google-woogle it ,, the books are now available on "torrents" (i n i dont do them)... lmfao

Nothing,, not even the sacred bibles of ganja growing are sacred these days.. its online

Edit: Beware kids,, there's plenty-a-pot conspiracy still out there on paper back.. on a good day you'll find the edited versions on Amazon,, on a bad day the older copies are auctioned off by ex- or poor homegrowers on ebay

My version is 3rd hand and scribbled on in places,, hehe

 

[bigherb]

HAPPHI

Interesting that you should note the cat piss odor, the brown/green old school that i just finished courtesy of a
generous Icmag member had the cat piss odor which i
also identify with old school weed.

is it all comin back too you

are you referring to the fourth variety of haze you described as incense /oldschool

im confused
the 4 variety still lives as you say it was gifted by an ic mem

as ive said b4 id lov for you too smoke som of that hazen reminess n give as much detail as you can remember

incense n catpiss in trademark for nyc haze

1luvbigherb

 

[indifferent]

Ah, I have a several gigabyte torrent download of ganja ebooks so i probably have it. I'm not big on reading cannabis books anymore, read a few that I thought were tosh and that put me off.